Buying my Ram tonite I need your suggestions for my E8400. Have plans to hit 4-4.5ghz

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  1. killingfield1975

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  2. Dangman

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    DDR2 1000 sounds like a good idea. For just $45 more, you can get 4GB of DDR2 1000 RAM:
    G.SKILL F2-8000CL5D-4GBPQ 2 x 2GB DDR2 1000 RAM - $115

    But the set you chose should be fine.

    Word of warning though: Don't use a particularly high-end video card (GTX, 2900XT, 9800GX2), add a ton of hard drives or go with a quad-core CPU with that PSU. It's based off the FSP Episilon PSU design which has out of spec ripple, or voltage fluctuations, at high loads that can damage or kill your system. Granted, you may not reach such high loads but just thought you should know. Try not to add too much hardware to while you're using that PSU.
     
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    whhhhat why didnt i know about htis before? thanks for the heads up man you probably just saved me a lot of pain and money. what PSU would you recommend? i'll return this one and get me something different

    heres what i'm planning to have in my system so I'm not sure what the total amount of watt should equal too but it should be less than 500 for sure.

    1. typical mobo
    2. e8400 cpu
    3. dual sticks ddr2-1000
    4. dvd burner
    5. dvd reader
    6. 8800 GT
    7. Western Digital Raptor 150gb
    8. western digital 500gb


    a 450 would probably suite me fine right?
     
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    Because you didn't ask before you bought the OCZ PSU. You could keep it, since you already have it -- just don't put a huge load on it (your current build won't put enough load to invoke the ripple).

    Danny would recommend any PSU that says "Corsair" on it. :p Don't get it from Newegg unless their deal matches everyone else. Check zipzoomfly, buy.com, and clubit.com instead.

    Yes, a Corsair 450W would suite you fine, but if you want more headroom for future upgrades, you could move up to the Corsair 520W/620W (modular) or 550W (non-modular).
     
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    I'd say the 520HX/550VX at least. 8800GTs aren't /that/ power hungry, but you're planning a substantial OC. It's a "to be safe" kind of thing. Price difference shouldn't be more than $15-20.
     
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    good points and suggestion (silent and enginurd).

    hoenstly i would rather not risk it, i mean why would i want a psu that has a defective characteristic if i put extra load on it? i mean if i bought a 600watt psu then i expect it to out put those numbers. not that i'm going to need all that power.

    i mean if you bought a porche 911 turbo and it was able sold and advertise with 600whp and one day you mash the pedal to the floor and finally reach peak RPMs and POOOF the car explodes!

    no thanks.

    oh yeah i always try to shop at buy.com clubit.com or anywhere i can find the best prices.

    i got to www.xpbargains.com, fatwallet.com pricewatch.com and scope out any prices before I buy. so newegg is never first on my list. for the past year or so i'm starting to venture away from newegg i dont think there prices are as competitive as before. (no offense to all the newegg fanboys).

    i picked up my e8400 for 189 at microcenter

    newegg had them for 224 at the time.
     
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    by the way is there a program that tells you how many watts your whole system is using?
     
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    Fo sho! :p

    Hmm should start considering other alternatives sometime soon.............. Nah.:D

    Oh there is no reliable and decent program out there that can tell you how many watts your system is using. HOWEVER, you can buy a piece of hardware that tells you how much power you're using: the Kill-A-Watt for ~$20 at most places
     
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    Nice catch on the E8400.
     
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    No, unfortunately all those things suck/are useless/terribly misleading.

    You can buy a Kill-A-Watt for $25-30 and put it in line between your UPS and the wall (or your surge protector if you're living dangerously) to see actual draw of components you /have/, but this is before conversion by the PSU, so you have to figure in power loss due to inefficiency, and needless to say this is no help when buying the PSU, so...
     
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    yeah i know i was just curious about how many watts im actually using.

    damn i cant wait to oc my shhhhhhhhhit.

    i think i'm going to go with the ddr2-1000 2x1GB model. i cant picture myself using 4gbs of ram. i know vista is a hardware hog but i dont run vista either. damn decisions decisions
     
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    PSU FAQ: http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1036

    There were others on the list... you know, BEFORE Corsair came out with PSUs. Even after they came out with PSUs, they only had two models for a while, so there were still other brands on your list... but now that they have a nice range goin, you seem to have dropped all others (Enhance, Silverstone, PC P&C, Tt Toughpowers, etc).
     
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    I have a Thermaltake Toughpower on my other system. i dont know about you guys but it like it.
     
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    Toughpowers, and only Toughpowers, are the only Thermaltake PSUs worth buying.
     
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    True, I did drop many a PSU (Though I don't recall ever having Toughpowers on my list) from my list after Corsair released their TX and VX lines. After looking at the prices and what those other power supplies offered, I judged that the Corsairs offered just as much power and value as the other power supplies. And often times, the prices for the Corsairs weren't much more. So I dropped the others.

    But I think I see where you're going. There are other power supplies out there other than Corsair. So I'll start putting in a little variety in the PSU list whenever I can.
     
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    I came to the same conclusion, so I don't bother adding to your list anymore, usually, lol.
     
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    :D.
     
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    So what do you guys think about the OCZ GameXStream 600w? This is my current PSU and haven't had any problem but I am about to upgrade to similar system except will be using a 8800 GTS 512.

    Curious if the gameXstream suffers the same ripple problem as stealthXstream.
     
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    Both do, yes. Replace it if at all possible.
     
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    Dang.. :mad:

    Makes you wonder why they get such good reviews on newegg. O well, just something else to add to my shopping list.
     
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    Because most end-users don't properly test a PSU with the right equipment (ATE; automated test equipment) to leave a proper review. All they know is, the thing powers their system and it was cheap! For such an important piece of hardware, you want to look at real reviews of PSUs from Jonnyguru.com, HardOCP, HardwareCannucks, and SPCR -- sites that use automated test equipment and post detailed results.

    The problem with the FSP Epsilon based units is ripple on the +12v rails AT HIGH LOADS. Most people don't even stress their GXS/SXS units enough to invoke the out of spec ripple, but even if they did, they wouldn't know it right away. Ripple kills components over time, so it will take a while for those components to die. FSP and OCZ claim the ripple has been fixed, and only a few sites detected the out of spec ripple. So, if you have it already, just don't load it up to its max and you should be fine. If you're in the market for a new PSU, there are better choices right now.