maboblivion
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soldered to motherboard and with bad tim under the ihs
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I understand your point, but this all just seems implausible to me. I seriously doubt motherboard manufacturers, free trade associations, and several particular governments would take it lightly.Well one thing I see would be that motherboard manufacturers would have to buy a CPU for every motherboard they make. That means buying a lot more CPU's than normal because they don't sell all the boards they make and ship. So that's a lot more CPU's sold by Intel. So every motherboard sitting on Newegg or Tiger Direct or Directron's shelves would have an Intel CPU bought and paid for sitting there until somebody buys the motherboard.
If this makes it across the lineup (top-tier) that hoses OC in a big way. Batch numbers? Yeah right. Weird to think about. Sockets have been around on intel chips since the 80286 days.
I'll believe it when I see it.
the internet adapter gets hot and screws with the SSD...
I have an Intel 6205 in my X220 and the past few months it's turned into the flakiest thing ever. Will randomly not show up as a device and lose connection to networks etc. Googling around... lots of other people have similar issues. That's even after updating to the most recent drivers...
I have the exact same setup but I haven't experienced any problems at all.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thin...N-6205-wifi-card-/140659884571#ht_2916wt_1111 <~~ that card.
It could just be a bad card, perhaps? That Realtek garbo that came with my x220 was piss poor as far as connection and power consumption both. The Centrino card has worked wonders in improving upon signal and battery life (under linux).
It doesn't surprise me that the NUC overheated, though. Those little cards can get quite hot. I haven't done any large file transfers over WiFi yet but I can certainly see how it could potentially cause issues
I bought the Intel right away because I knew the thinkpad-branded adapter would be garbage. The intel one had ZERO problems up until a year of use has gone by... now it's gotten worse and worse. Maybe one drop out every week... now it's like within 15min of booting the laptop or sometimes several hours. I'll live with it for now... don't feel like paying money for something that shouldn't've broke. Only when it really frustrates me will I try buying a new one to check if that fixes it.
EDIT: This article is mistranslated.
This article says:
-- Intel will not provide new products for Desktop and non-BGA laptop segments in Broadwell era
-- Instead, they will provide higher clocked Haswell for those segments in 2014
-- Broadwell is "more than tick", and it will include some technologies that were previously planned for Skylake
-- This is because Intel needs to be more competitive in the tablet market, and this may mean the end of Tick-Tock strategy
-- It mentions nothing about Skylake and later or if they will be LGA or not for the desktop
You people are all idiots. Read the comments below the story:
I'll believe it when it starts happening. Otherwise, happy thanksgiving everyone?
I'm not thrilled about the news, but I'm not overly concerned either. I don't usually upgrade my CPU without going to a new platform anyway. I do understand not everyones upgrade trend matches my own, so I can certainly see how this would be a bummer if it ends up being true sooner rather than later.
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Happy birthday, Yankees!
I hear "gullible" isn't in the dictionary.
Seriously people, are you convinced by such a flimsy rumor which makes absolutely zero sense to begin with?
It makes plenty of sense, it cuts costs, pushes intel's products, cpu and motherboard into the market more, forces people to spend more to upgrade..
Works for Apple... why not intel?
How does this save money for Intel? BGA or LGA chips... they're both the same for intel basically... (package... one with contact pads... other with balls). It might save mobo makers some money as they don't need to bother with a socket.
Normally, you would expect Intel to tell the companies that are affected, the Asuses, Gigabytes, MSIs, and Asrock
, well ahead of time. This time Intel didn’t, and that should tell you a great deal about their intentions. At least a few key PC players found out from SemiAccurate a few months ago, and they were rather incredulous about the news. This state of mind has probably changed to a state a bit past peeved by now, their entire business is about to be gutted. Intel didn’t just do a bad job of messaging this one, they didn’t do any job of it.
They get more money by selling more chipsets. If somebody wants an upgrade then they've got no choice buy to buy both a motherboard and a CPU, meaning Intel makes money on the chipset and CPU and also reduces overhead by supplying only 1 type of CPU (BGA) throughout it's entire consumer lineup. The motherboard makers would likely have to increase costs as well, because I highly doubt we'll be seeing 2-3 year warranties unless Intel decides to drop their warranty on their CPUs and have it go through the motherboard manufacturers.
It's just bad all around for the enthusiast if this were true. For true SoCs this is common practice, but then again they also sell you the entire product rather than just the motherboard and SoC. It wouldn't surprise me to see soldered RAM and tiny PCBs a couple of years down the line. The enthusiast and DIY PC builder be damned if there's a way to cut costs.
I don't think it will make them more money in the sense of selling more chipsets. The amount of people who upgrade processor only is very small. Now add to that a more expensive upgrade option and a portion of that already small number will undoubtedly hold off on any upgrade at all, which equates to a loss for intel. Combined with the remaining that do upgrade and you're likely at a wash.
Well, that changes everything!Today semiaccurate is posting the same:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/11/26/intel-kills-off-the-desktop-pcs-go-with-it/
It makes plenty of sense, it cuts costs, pushes intel's products, cpu and motherboard into the market more, forces people to spend more to upgrade..
Works for Apple... why not intel?
Well, that changes everything!
So... I hear Charlie said that AMD is killing off all its big cores, used by desktops and servers. Charlie said so! :themoreyouknow:
Come 2014 we'll get the usual "something changed" out of him instead of admitting he was wrong.
Apparently intel sees enthusiasts and regular desktop users/gamers as a niche market that doesn't deserve as much attention as the bigger money maker:
What would be next? Soldering the RAM DIMMs onto the motherboard?