Booyah! H.264 on nVIDIA

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Here's the press release:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_29956.html

Here's the trial:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder_1.02-196-trial.html

Looks like some other goodies to up the ante from Anand's review of AVIVO vs PUREVIDEO.

Guess another comparison will now need to be performed. Also in addition to the use of the PureVideo decoder itself as stand alone, it will also work fine with
Cyberlink, Intervideo and Nero as according to:

http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_purevideo_requirements.html

Awesome as it works with my card I bought back in Feb 2005! :D
 
I installed the new beta drivers+new purevideo and h264 content isn't playing back in MPC. What's up with that? MPEG2 works fine.
 
This is old news to most of us.

The problem is you still have to pay for a decoder application. (Same with ATi).
 
This is great news for those with these cards:

Consumers with PCs built with the following NVIDIA products, will be able to watch high-definition videos and DVDs with the highest level of visual quality and performance:

* NVIDIA® GeForce® 7-series of GPUs for the desktop and notebook PC
* NVIDIA GeForce 6-series of GPUs for the desktop and notebook PC
* NVIDIA nForce® 6150 family of integrated GPUs
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BBA said:
This is old news to most of us.

The problem is you still have to pay for a decoder application. (Same with ATi).
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Sure you have to buy it, but the news is that the H.264 is available for download today. If someone is wondering if they might like it, they can use the 30 day trial to experiment.
 
aggressor said:
I installed the new beta drivers+new purevideo and h264 content isn't playing back in MPC. What's up with that? MPEG2 works fine.
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guess you need this also CyberLink PowerDVD™ with H.264 (AVC) and AAC Pack

PureVideo’s H.264 (also known as MPEG-4 Part 10 or AVC) decode acceleration and post processing effects are available through a special application programming interface (API). The following partners have announced support of PureVideo’s H.264 decode acceleration in their applications:
* CyberLink PowerDVD™ with H.264 (AVC) and AAC Pack
* InterVideo® WinDVD®
* Nero® ShowTime
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Only until MCP supports hardware assisted direct play of H.264 as well. Currently on those three applications currently play H.264 in hardware decode support at this time.

So that's part of the issue. Kinda like we had to wait for HD WMV support for DxVA support in MCP before ATI or nVIDIA could accelerate that type of playback.

I expect a patch that is obscure as the one for HD WMV for DxVA to be released and not well broadcasted, just like M$ did with the last one for MCP.
 
ummm,

please excuse me if I'm missing something, but...

You can use already ffdshow to view all h264 content for free, and you can use x264 to encode h264 for free.


Or is it the hardware decoding element we're talking about here? If so, who cares if a software solution works perfectly already?
 
spine said:
ummm,

please excuse me if I'm missing something, but...

You can use already ffdshow to view all h264 content for free, and you can use x264 to encode h264 for free.


Or is it the hardware decoding element we're talking about here? If so, who cares if a software solution works perfectly already?
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It's the "hardware decode" element that is the excitement. The reason we care is that we want enought CPU cycles left for other tasks beyond just decoding the H264 content. The excitement wasn't over just viewing the content as anyone could with the software viewers, it's just that the utilization typically spiked to 100% frequently even with the latest procs.

A reason I'd want enough cycles left is that it might by my system that also runs my home automation system and is connected by Cat 5e HDMI video baluns to an HDTV 150' away (http://avovercat5.com/products/hdmi.htm for those interested in how). While watching the video, the system still needs to support the rest of the HA feature set.

This gives me the greatest flexibility in the user interface and features over any existing "media extenders". Once those are also H.264 capable, then it may not be as important to me that my "home automation" controller have hardware decode or not.

Here's also how to connect your DVI ATI or nVIDIA card to an HDMI set: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/DVI-hdmi_cables.html
 
IMO its fracked up that nvidia does not include their PureVideo codec with the cards that support them. People (such as myself) spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on their hardware only to pay even more for something that basically should be free. ATI doesn't do this do they (really does ati sell avivo as seperate driver feature)?

Sure one could argue that the $20-$50 should mean little to enthusiast who buy sli'd rigs but still I just feel like its a sleazy salesmen scam, "Buy this card that can do this, but you also have to buy this for it to do it too". I think more people would use Media Player/NVdvd as their dvd player if it came with their card, but I see most people use Cyberlink or WinDvd. And why not include a 60 day trial for that earth viewer app they have too.
 
HighTest said:
It's the "hardware decode" element that is the excitement. The reason we care is that we want enought CPU cycles left for other tasks beyond just decoding the H264 content. The excitement wasn't over just viewing the content as anyone could with the software viewers, it's just that the utilization typically spiked to 100% frequently even with the latest procs.

A reason I'd want enough cycles left is that it might by my system that also runs my home automation system and is connected by Cat 5e HDMI video baluns to an HDTV 150' away (http://avovercat5.com/products/hdmi.htm for those interested in how). While watching the video, the system still needs to support the rest of the HA feature set.

This gives me the greatest flexibility in the user interface and features over any existing "media extenders". Once those are also H.264 capable, then it may not be as important to me that my "home automation" controller have hardware decode or not.

Here's also how to connect your DVI ATI or nVIDIA card to an HDMI set: http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/DVI-hdmi_cables.html
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Fair enough, but I mean, playing a h264 DVD rip on my pc uses 10%-20% of my total cpu usage so it's not like it's any kind of major hinderence.
 
kuyaglen said:
IMO its fracked up that nvidia does not include their PureVideo codec with the cards that support them. People (such as myself) spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on their hardware only to pay even more for something that basically should be free. ATI doesn't do this do they (really does ati sell avivo as seperate driver feature)?
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ATi is exactly the same, they do not include it and you have to buy it seperately in order to HW decode H.264 (it costs $15 )
 
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