'Biohacker' Who Injected Himself with DIY Herpes Treatment Found Dead

Any person that starts to talk about curing the worlds major diseases ends up dead or imprisoned.
Whistle blowers written off as crazy and stupid.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Any person that starts to talk about curing the worlds major diseases ends up dead or imprisoned.
Whistle blowers written off as crazy and stupid.
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Well in this case he was diagnosed with inoperable cancer back in 2011.... so who knows maybe the big pharma guys have him the cancer well in advance because they knew he was onto something.
 
https://m.imgur.com/r/ImagesOfThe1920s/x8npj Posting is kind of broken on safari mobile so I couldn’t put this at the bottom. Sorry

sean.b said:
ill go against the grain and say im glad people are dumb/brave (isnt that line usually separated by living or dying, anyway?) enough to be doing this. i mean.. yea.. we could have guessed this shit would end poorly. but look back at how many scientific breakthroughs were almost entirely due to accident or happenstance. i think legit research will probably win out over random self treatment, but hey.. dude could have had some fun side effects that pushed science a direction we didnt know to go.

instead he's dead. oh well. any more volunteers?
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Like this guy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Forssmann he stuck a catheter/needle into his own arm and fed it into his heart. The X-ray of proof and a slightly less dry way of reading about the story.
 
Lakados said:
Until the tests come back in who knows, but he was diagnosed with in operable cancer back in 2011, so who knows at this point what finished him off.
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Generally speaking, and not sure the disease, most people don't go out in a flash, e.g. in a hot tub. Have heard of some terrible colorectal cases where part of the tumor split and the person bled out internally. Poor, poor people. But, yes, to be fair, we'll need to wait for an official cause of death, if any is forthcoming.
 
Babbster said:
Yes, Real medicine. I wasn't calling gene therapy fake medicine. It's the bullshit this deservedly dead asshole pushed that was fake medicine. Drug regulations have their drawbacks, but only fools would call thorough testing of potential drugs a drawback.
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I misinterpreted the context in your post
 
Patton187 said:
We are all one hood rat from herpes.
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doesn't even HAVE to be a hoodrat... she may be hot as you don't know what... just sayin + it doesn't matter how many times you wrap it, rubbers don't stop herp/warts... better wise up people.
 
Hah you fools he just found the ultimate turbo tweak to the sensory deprivation tank.
 
You know, for all of us, life will be a difficult journey, and a journey that none of us will survive. We are free to live our lives as we see fit, but how we navigate that journey says a lot about who we are.


P.S. Hitting the gate with a crack pipe, a Chalupa Cravings Box and a wingsuit looks odd, but it'll get you mentioned on the internet.

P.P.S. As best as I can reckon, Hunter S. Thompson is the distance holder for "Bat Shit Crazy Journey of Life."
 
so clickbait? he injected him w/ some diy stuff but was found dead xx amount of time later in a sensory dep tank of what appears to be somethign completely unrelated and your saying it was somehow "karma"? with the darwin comment?

meh
 
Glad that didn't happen in Futureman. Otherwise there wouldn't be a season 2.
 
So what actually killed him then? People here not caring for facts again... We can all poke him with the Darwin award when the results of his post mortem are released, assuming it was his drug that killed him of course!
 
klepp0906 said:
so clickbait? he injected him w/ some diy stuff but was found dead xx amount of time later in a sensory dep tank of what appears to be somethign completely unrelated and your saying it was somehow "karma"? with the darwin comment?

meh
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haha yeah...disease has no incubation time right?
 
aka wiki - "Traywick’s body was taken to the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner for an autopsy; a report has yet to be released. A spokesperson for the spa told reporters that DC police twice told her they found drug paraphernalia among Traywick's belongings."

Passed out and probably drowned.
 
Stimpy88 said:
So what actually killed him then? People here not caring for facts again... We can all poke him with the Darwin award when the results of his post mortem are released, assuming it was his drug that killed him of course!
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I'm still willing to call Darwin award for drugs and a dep tank. But, yes, absolutely, an official report is needed. That said, it's not giving much credence to the diy herpes vaccination as coming from a guy with great ideas.
 
Agreed, Darwin Award pending toxicology report in several weeks.
 
It is important with withhold judgment before we find out the true cause of death. It may have nothing to do with the therapy he tested on himself and frankly, unless there was contamination that likely has nothing to do with the therapy itself as, unless I'm missing something, it wouldn't seem that such a treatment would cause sudden death. "Drug paraphernalia" doesn't tell us very much at this point because even syringes (which were used for his treatment, tested or otherwise) or something like marijuana accessories could be mentioned that way. If it turned out he used some sort of street drug or pharmaceutical combination that lowered his respiration or caused him to drown, that would be unfortunate but have little to do with him being a "biohacker". Hopefully there will be more information soon.

Regardless, we should not judge too harshly "biohacking" - lets not forget that some of what today is the standard HIV "Cocktail" came from patients essentially ordering FDA-unavailable research drugs from other countries and experimenting on themselves - the movie "Dallas Buyers Club" illustrates this (and a major reason that we got the first exceptions for experimental treatments on the books) Another great example is that for years - decades, even since "modern" medicine - stomach ulcers were considered to be caused by stress, by eating spicy food, or solely by forms of direct irritation like these. The mainstream medical community dismissed anyone saying it could be anything else, but a physician (I think he was Australian?), suspected it was caused by a particular bacteria H. pylori (which also has a major role in stomach cancer and gastritis). In order to prove it, he - in perfect gastrointestinal health - drank an infusion of H. pylori taken from the stomach of a patient and soon after he developed an ulcer! He also figured out a treatment (if I recall correctly bismuth - from pepto-bismol -was part of it, along with a common antibiotic). Of course, the establishment still balked at his work and it wasn't until much later and reaching out to many others that he was able to get people to publish on the merits of his work and expand trials and treatment even further, which would eventually revolutionize our understanding and treatment of ulcers (the original doc if I recall also developed the "breath" test for H. pylori making diagnosis even easier.). Not remember that this all happened in the late 80s, and it wasn't until the mid 90s at which the new understanding spread beyond a handful of especially informed specialist physicians; this wasn't some dark age turn of the century thinking, the kind of excuse typically invoked when these mistakes and attitudes are brought up as contrary to certain examples, but it was happening then and it is happening now.

It is a sad fact that "modern" medicine is often stuck in a status quo on many ideas. This has gotten worse with insurance companies, drug companies, a horrid patent system, and other factors push forward certain ideas and retard those who color outside the lines, even if they're right. Before anyone here judges "biohackers" as an idea, hope that you or someone in your family never gets afflicted with any condition by which there is no or insufificent treatment for as the "standard of care" , but yet there is at least the potential for improvement using an existing medication in an off label way, an unapproved treatment which shows promise but hasn't gone through the decades of trials as of yet, or a physician treating in an innovative way. So long as patients and practitioners are fully aware of the situation, I don't see any problem . Instead, we should actually try to cultivate and make safe and high quality components for research and trials in more affordable ways -but that's another post entirely.
 
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