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For this, and many other reasons, if you cannot turn your camera on for a job interview, you should be immediately dismissed.
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We have some of the best people working for us. If we had to physically meet everyone that worked for us, it'd be near impossible. Hence why we have all this technology for remote interaction, including turning your damn camera on. My closest teammate is a 2 hour drive away, most are spread out even father. Some teams here have teammates across the globe. Meeting in person is just not gonna happen. Grow up, use your camera, and be a productive member of the workforce.
A million dollars?? lol ... you have no idea what tense or serious is. You really have no idea. When the legal bills are million dollars you'll begin to understand.
What is this a dick measuring contest? If i told you I annually have files hitting 500m would that make you feel better?
If it was you'd have already won the thread, but not in the way you're meaning.
Ok there buddy.
As I said you have no idea what serious really is. It may very well be a very big deal to you but to a vast many others it doesn't even register as a blip. For example my wife works multiple 30M+ plus deals a week. Her primary attorney wouldn't even consider a deal under 10M and for that happen to there had better be a lot more on line. In general the only people that demand cameras on tend to be those with control issues or prior bad experience such as Eulogy. It seems you fall into the first category. Testing situations as described by Eulogy need scrutiny. General meetings on the other hand do not.
Yeah. Definitely don't need them on for standup and such. No one gets bent out of shape if someone doesn't have their camera on. But, all in all, I think it's nice when folks do. It's a collaborative team and seeing each other is nice, if not beneficial. Especially when pairing (paired programming is big where I am), you get a lot from visual interaction; we've definitely noticed changes when people don't turn on their cam.
It's huge. It really is. All those social cues we normally use - well, they're important! I can't imagine being in a "big deal" meeting (or important design session, etc) without having those little tips to see "they're comfortable" / "they're skeptical" / "there was nodding, but some dissent, I need to target those folks".
lol, because they dont even work. literally.
Tons of companies do. I don't get your point here. When WFH, even if not 100% of the time, having a camera is beneficial IMO.
This does not align with my experience.
Thats good to hear. I'm not seeing that though.
Saaaaame. My company has -always- been remote. Even the in-office folks are treated the same as remote workers. Engineers (at least up to Staff level, and the one Principal level that I know) are 100% remote unless they want to go into an office for a day... which there's no work benefit to, since every team is so distributed. I've been WFH for >7 years now and won't even think about another job unless it is WFH. Not gonna waste an hour or more of my life sitting in a car getting to/from employment.
That has been my experience and the company's. Most of my division is WFH and has been long before this current mess. They have found that they are much more productive than other divisions that are not as WFH friendly. My team is distributed from eastern Europe to Hawaii and aside from the struggle of getting the whole team together for a bi-weekly meeting without abusing anyone too much it works beautifully. We absolutely depend on screen sharing, im and email. No one uses cameras as it detracts from job. Some I've met others not. I worked for my current manager almost 6 years before I met him at a vendor conference in Chicago. Prior to that had only seen his face in our company directory. The only meetings that use cameras are all hands division meetings when the top brass want to be seen "leading."
It's kind of sad that this has gone from "meme" to the reality that we have fully found ourselves in, with no stopping in sight.
Many people might laugh at those clothing/tech styles, but each day I am seeing more and more people dress like that to the point it is beyond "subculture".
The main problem may be that the manager originally got their job to be a glorified taskmaster and upper level management spy with a directive to periodically look over your shoulder, and make pointless reports related to things like "on task time" and "gets-along/doesn't-get-along with others" rather than measuring worker output in terms of actual delivered results, which can be especially difficult in some fields where bad workers can churn out a ton of output which never actually contributes anything. If you're not in a cubicle somewhere that the manager can walk around and verify you appear to be doing X instead of any other Y then what is the point of that manager?
What if the candidate doesn't have a camera to use? I don't have any camera in my house to use for virtual meetings. Does that preclude me from qualifying for a position at your place of work? Phone interviews have never been an issue in the past. I don't understand why a camera is all of a sudden considered required in this day and age.
Their loss.
Pay the 20$ for a webcam and if you're hired, they'd probably pay for it if you asked.
