Brent_Justice
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Or if you want to run really high AA levels, at that rez 16X TR SSAA would be easy.
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Not to bust on you, man, but if you can laugh at your own expense, you said this at 12:41 PM today:USMC2Hard4U said:
I bring it up because I set off a tizzy in another thread a couple of weeks ago by sarcastically ripping on the naysayers and predicting this would happen. The biggest huffiness came from nullzero, who dedicated an entire thread to proclaiming his ability to resist the lure of the G80 (the very thread, in fact, that you posted in with the statement I just quoted):USMC2Hard4U said:I will be waiting as well. This 8800 is amazing. However, I cannot justify the price right now... Even if I had it to spend, I think waiting until after Vista comes out would be a good idea. This way we can see if the 8900s will be worth purchasing or if an 8800 is good enough at a lower price point.
This same nullzero is now boasting about being #12 in the eVGA step-up qeue for a G80.nullzero said:I myself just bought a evga 7900gt about 2 months ago and I have decided to skip over the new 8800 series until the prices drop to $200 range or the next generation comes out. Learning from the past this new card will be old news in 6 months from the ATI counter or NVIDA revisions. Im expecting prices should drop sometime in january or later. My money is going to a Wii.
To put it into estimates, a GeForce 8800 GTX with its specified total thermal displacement of 185 watts, is going to add a solid 150 watts of load to your PSU when you put it into your system
Silus said:The FEAR Extraction Point issue is definitely not an hardware one (ATI or NVIDIA). There's a thread around, where multiple users (including myself) complained about its incredible choppiness. You just need to turn a corner or open a door and *BAM* the game lags, with no apparent reason.
You can't directly compare AA modes, MSAA, CSAA, TR MSAA/SSAA etc.. You'd have to turn off AA and AF (making you more CPU bound), and even then the base filtering is different, so you'd have to go to point sampling. There is just no way to make the two video cards have the same exact image quality. It would be pointless to anyway, pure max FPS means nothing.
View -> Classic Control Panel.TheGoat Eater said:just installed my BFG 8800 GTS woot - but how do I get back to the old style forceware panel? I can't seem to find it anywhere - so that i can use coolbits!
its telling me that "This is now a Performance feature. Visit the NVIDIA website to learn more and download the NVIDIA nTune performance application. Would you like to go there now?"InorganicMatter said:View -> Classic Control Panel.
Brent_Justice said:You are missing the point, there is no way we can do anything apples to apples because nothing is apples to apples.
You can't directly compare AA modes, MSAA, CSAA, TR MSAA/SSAA etc.. You'd have to turn off AA and AF (making you more CPU bound), and even then the base filtering is different, so you'd have to go to point sampling. There is just no way to make the two video cards have the same exact image quality. It would be pointless to anyway, pure max FPS means nothing.
What matters is how high can you push the visuals and still maintain playable performance.
and its telling me I need a nforce board - which i figured anyway ---------- WHAT THE F*CK ???????????TheGoat Eater said:its telling me that "This is now a Performance feature. Visit the NVIDIA website to learn more and download the NVIDIA nTune performance application. Would you like to go there now?"
Commander Suzdal said:Not to bust on you, man, but if you can laugh at your own expense, you said this at 12:41 PM today:
I bring it up because I set off a tizzy in another thread a couple of weeks ago by sarcastically ripping on the naysayers and predicting this would happen. The biggest huffiness came from nullzero, who dedicated an entire thread to proclaiming his ability to resist the lure of the G80 (the very thread, in fact, that you posted in with the statement I just quoted):
This same nullzero is now boasting about being #12 in the eVGA step-up qeue for a G80.
You guys just warmed the cockles of my dark, evil heart!
TheGoat Eater said:its telling me that "This is now a Performance feature. Visit the NVIDIA website to learn more and download the NVIDIA nTune performance application. Would you like to go there now?"
actually is a wise decision to skip getting the card when there is no application out there demanding enough for current video cards.Kibbles said:The next version of DirectX is DirectX 10 also referred to as D3D10. DirectX 10 will be released alongside Windows Vista early in 2007
I though about getting one now..then read that line
but ntune won't work with my P5B Deluxe - what do I do? any links would be great thanksBrent_Justice said:As I mentioned in the overclocking section you can no longer use coolbits. You have to use the nTune software for GPU overclocking.
TheGoat Eater said:but ntune won't work with my P5B Deluxe - what do I do? any links would be great thanks
And still this drivel goes on...Aztlan said:actually is a wise decision to skip getting the card when there is no application out there demanding enough for current video cards.
once crysis, UT2007 and other DX10 come out is when one should start thinking about getting one of these cards
by then the price will be alot lower
I suggest for people to think wisely, instead of rushing to buy one
Lazy_Moron said:When do you think we will see the SLI review? Also, I dont remember reading it in the review so thats why I am asking, but can you tell us what the 2 SLI connectors are for? Triple SLI, Quad SLI, etc.....
Brent_Justice said:
TheGoat Eater said:but will it work with 965 chipsets? BTW at stock speed I am getting 15858 in 3DMark 05
jedicri said:Great review. I have been waitng for this moment.
"Overclocking the GeForce 8800 GTX and GeForce 8800 GTS is done through a difference piece of software now. In the past you could run coolbits and unlock a hidden tab in the control panel. You can still do that, but when you click on the overclocking option it will tell you to go download nTune."
The above is a quote from your review. Does that mean that a non-nforce MB will not be able to OC the 8800 GTX and GTS, since the nTune software only works with nForce MBs? Or does nTune work with all chipsets (intel, ATI, VIA, etc)?
If that is the case, people who bought intel chipset MB for the new Conroe CPUs will not be able to OC the new 8800 cards
Aztlan said:actually is a wise decision to skip getting the card when there is no application out there demanding enough for current video cards.
once crysis, UT2007 and other DX10 come out is when one should start thinking about getting one of these cards
by then the price will be alot lower
I suggest for people to think wisely, instead of rushing to buy one
Aztlan said:actually is a wise decision to skip getting the card when there is no application out there demanding enough for current video cards.
once crysis, UT2007 and other DX10 come out is when should start thinking about getting one of these cards
by then the price will be alot lower
I suggest for people to think wisely, instead of rushing to buy one
Brent_Justice said:Or if you want to run really high AA levels, at that rez 16X TR SSAA would be easy.
jebo_4jc said:it's pretty easy to answer this question. Do you ever have to turn down the visual quality to keep games smooth? Then a video card upgrade would benefit you.
Chefboy said:Outstanding review as always ! Well done .
Love the way [H] has changed the way cards are compared ! It's in no way subjective, it's to the purest form, comparative. Peeps are just too used to seeing the old balls out approach, first card to choke, looses. For gamers, something most enthusiast are (For the most part) the old way does nothing to give true performance analysis. If you read it for what the article is and forget the old ways of benching this is truly the way to compare the REAL world use of a product.
Again, Well done.