Bethesda Bans Fallout 76 Players for Life after Shocking In-Game Homophobic Attack

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kju1

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You say that and yet all of you "get thicker skin" folks are the ones that get super triggered whenever someone doesn't want to deal with your shitty attitude.
Do you even know what "triggered"means? Triggered is an actual psychological condition in which a person who has experienced a VERY traumatic experience (i.e. rape, kidnapping, etc) has the same physical response over again when a "trigger" reawakens the memory of that event. It most emphatically IS NOT to be used when you feel offended or butt hurt. Doing so belittles those people who have actual real mental issues to deal with.
 

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Haven't spoken to anyone online since 2009, when I owned consoles. Started PC gaming and I only use the chat screen.
I get where things are going in the match and I flow with it. No need to listen to people whine.
 

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I play online games ALL the time
Audio chat...turned off

Why the fuck would you want that toxicity in your earholes

text chat...I ignore mainly...unless I get a good kill and someone bitches...then i lol lawl whatever

:D
 

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Haven't spoken to anyone online since 2009, when I owned consoles. Started PC gaming and I only use the chat screen.
I get where things are going in the match and I flow with it. No need to listen to people whine.
Yeah nothing ruins immersion more than hearing some whiny 10 yr old boys voice come out of a hot chick avatar...
 

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For everyone here saying “that’s just gaming culture”, well, maybe it shouldn’t be. Maybe we can all be better as a species and not be total assholes as soon as people don’t know who we actually are. Are people these days way too soft and probably need to man up? Yes, 100%. Does that mean companies like Bethesda need to, or should, tolerate griefers creating an environment in their game that makes people (who apparently have decided it doesn’t suck ass despite popular opinion) no longer want to play? No.
 

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For everyone here saying “that’s just gaming culture”, well, maybe it shouldn’t be. Maybe we can all be better as a species and not be total assholes as soon as people don’t know who we actually are. Are people these days way too soft and probably need to man up? Yes, 100%. Does that mean companies like Bethesda need to, or should, tolerate griefers creating an environment in their game that makes people (who apparently have decided it doesn’t suck ass despite popular opinion) no longer want to play? No.

How about a simple setting in the game. Troll or troll free zone, or a selection box for what type of players you want to be around. Id love to not play with 10 year olds, or people who are "so high right now".

It sounds wonderful:

Drunk bubble
High bubble
gradeschool bubble
marginalized bubble
female bubble
male bubble
rage bubble
n00b bubble

It would just be like chat rooms.
 
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kju1

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How about a simple setting in the game. Troll or troll free zone, or a selection box for what type of players you want to be around. Id love to not play with 10 year olds, or people who are "so high right now".
How about a mute button? or /ignore.

Oh wait those are all there in almost all games...
 

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How about a simple setting in the game. Troll or troll free zone, or a selection box for what type of players you want to be around. Id love to not play with 10 year olds, or people who are "so high right now".
I always wondered, if those 'im so high right now' people say that at the start of every random match. I think the lowest i have had was a 9 or 10 year old told me they were going to rape my mom.
 

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How about a mute button? or /ignore.

Oh wait those are all there in almost all games...
Some games have ignore list limits. They should also make it a quicker thing to do. Some are a quick click others you have to browse their profile and go down. taking long enough to idle out of a match.
 

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That independent study by RAND showing them as a higher cost and potential risk might have had something to do with that...
The RAND group also said we were winning the Vietnam war and it would be done in less than 2 years....see how well that turned out. But go ahead, pick data that agrees with your viewpoint and then use it as a club. Better yet, take the data out of context and use that as a club..that is going pro level by far. Maybe get a job at CNN or Fox?
 

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The RAND group also said we were winning the Vietnam war and it would be done in less than 2 years....see how well that turned out. But go ahead, pick data that agrees with your viewpoint and then use it as a club.
Excuse me but what makes you think I was invovled with picking the data? I am simply citing the same study that Mattis referred to in his decision paper. Maybe you should actually read the decisions your government makes rather than just casting aspersions about individuals?
 

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The player being banned is perfectly fair (there are no dedicated servers for individual banning from his home/favorite server); this being news is absurd.
 

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No, you judge a situation based on skin color.
Fuck that. Fucking strawman. Fuck Fuck Fuck. Wrong fucking wrong.

I judge the situation on the actions of a weak ass bully from a family of hate where the mom and brother have both gone to jail for racially charged crimes. You propped him up as an innocent victim and I corrected you. That's it. Almost everything else here is you pretending I'm saying something I'm not. Oh and a few history lessons as well.

He's a product of the problem. Only his apology will make him a hero of the problem.

Let me tell you a story. I used to be bullied by a smaller kid in 7th grade from another class. He'd always come in the breaks and harass me. This went on for about 3-4 months when during a break he came at me again with the typical grin on his face, and something snapped in me. I grabbed his shoulders, threw him at a wall, and started to kick the living shit out of him. He never tried to bully me ever again. Now imagine had this happened in the time of smartphones and cameras, and someone would have recorded this. What would you see? A slightly larger kid kicking the shit out of a smaller kid for no reason.

That's fucking why you can't judge a situation like this either way. Whatever you feel happened, is just that your own feelings projected onto reality. It is not fact, and not evidence.
I grew up in the 80s, bullying was common. I had my share of fights. However, I never kicked the shit out of someone. I held back.

This explains a lot. I don't think you ever got over your rage and hate and seem to pride yourself on the fights you won rather that the fights you mitigated.

Don't be the bully.
 

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Ultimately Bethesda has the right to run their private service as they see fit. I have a right as a consumer not to purchase their services/products if I disagree with them. I didn't buy their product for a couple reasons. A: the product sucks. B: censoring people, I believe in complete free speech even if offensive or abusive. C: No steam.

Personally I'm not one to care about feelings, and I think most people are far too soft. If you can't handle people saying mean words you need to grow up quite a bit.
 

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For everyone here saying “that’s just gaming culture”, well, maybe it shouldn’t be. Maybe we can all be better as a species and not be total assholes as soon as people don’t know who we actually are. Are people these days way too soft and probably need to man up? Yes, 100%. Does that mean companies like Bethesda need to, or should, tolerate griefers creating an environment in their game that makes people (who apparently have decided it doesn’t suck ass despite popular opinion) no longer want to play? No.
This ... so much this. If this kind of behavior is "gaming culture" than gaming culture sucks and it needs to change.
 

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Ultimately Bethesda has the right to run their private service as they see fit. I have a right as a consumer not to purchase their services/products if I disagree with them. I didn't buy their product for a couple reasons. A: the product sucks. B: censoring people, I believe in complete free speech even if offensive or abusive. C: No steam.

Personally I'm not one to care about feelings, and I think most people are far too soft. If you can't handle people saying mean words you need to grow up quite a bit.
I do feel everyone should have the freedom to be an asshole, just wish they wouldn't do it. Controlling people does not make the problem go away, it just bottles it.

That said, I have probably 95% of my games set for friends voices only or none if that option does not exist. I was annoyed at the loud music people blast into their mics or the cussing kids so I just muted everyone so that I could enjoy my gaming experience.

That and I usually have music playing so there really is no room to hear anyone on voice lol.
 

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Exactly. Which is why I only play SP games, exclusively.

A-Fucking-men to that.

There was a time where my attitude about MP games was much much different. Back in the days of Descent 3, Rocket Arena 3, Unreal, etc., there just didn't seem to be as much horseshit as there is today. I want good people to play with, people that are willing to both teach and have fun and for the group of us to learn to work together during matches. That to me was the best gaming of all, but like everything else in this life, there has to be that small group of cunts who take it upon themselves to pooch it up for everyone else with their bullshit.

This is why I ignore violence or other forms of mistreatment aimed at this particular group of cunts as I feel they 100% deserve every bit of misery they get.
 

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pretty soon we'll see Safe Space DLC's available for purchase. It'll be where they can go there an not get offended at playing an online game while playing an online game.
 

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pretty soon we'll see Safe Space DLC's available for purchase. It'll be where they can go there an not get offended at playing an online game while playing an online game.
You mispelled Single Player
 

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There is no doubt about whether terrorism is right or not.
There is a lot of hate. Those who took their rage to far are guilty of crimes. If it rises to the level of terrorism, that is for others to judge not us. You are not due process. Remember that.

I know enough about Tommy Robinson, sure he has some extreme views most of which I disagree with, but he's not the pure evil he was painted as. Being on the right is not a crime last I checked, even if the sjws would very much like that to be the case.
I used to respect the right. But lately they seem to accept the far right more than the moderate right. Evil is evil hate is hate. They need to expel or disavow it.

I'm against Antifa. If they every formed a sizeable presence in any party. I would fight against it.

Yes they would, then why won't you?
Fine as stated above. I disavow any violent protests against the bully as well as the hate from the bully.

The other side is hate.

It's not logic, it is a whimsical assertion. Both makes you feel something, but feelings are not facts, and shouldn't be used as evidence of something. I can't go out and burn french flags because they make me feel bad either. And I don't go around hating people alive today for injustices of the past perpetrated by people of the same skin color/nationality.
Many people see it, others ignore it. It could be benign if the other evidence from the bully and the bullies family wasn't there.

Ignore it as you wish.

Oh, you're one of those lunatics. Nobody is oppressed in the UK/US in the current day and age, except for free expression. But if SJWs would have their way they'd make everyone who disagrees with them oppressed. And I know it is an inconvenient fact for them, but not all non-whites are on their side. They hate them "race traitors" even more.
Yup racism is over, do i need to state that I'm being sarcastic?

And wow did you just use they? Subliminal racism is still racism.

It's commendable on his part but completely unrelated to the argument.
Is it unrelated? You propped up the other side softened the presence of Tommy Robinson.

Apologies are very related to solving this situation. Unless you feel the situation works for your political benefit. Do you?

He should apologize for overpowering a kid with a broken arm, nothing else. Would apologizing for racism make him any less of a racist if he in fact is one? So why would that matter?
You don't get it and you never will. Choose your heroes wisely.
 

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I do feel everyone should have the freedom to be an asshole, just wish they wouldn't do it. Controlling people does not make the problem go away, it just bottles it.

That said, I have probably 95% of my games set for friends voices only or none if that option does not exist. I was annoyed at the loud music people blast into their mics or the cussing kids so I just muted everyone so that I could enjoy my gaming experience.

That and I usually have music playing so there really is no room to hear anyone on voice lol.
100% agree.

If "mean words" are your worst worry you have it sooooooo easy. Our ancestors had to worry about a lion jumping out of the bushes and feasting on them or a big windstorm blowing down their grass hut. Want something more current? There are *BILLIONS* of people in the world right now that don't have access to clean water. Malaria is a real thing. So is forced sex work slavery. How about this: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/01/africa/south-sudan-women-raped-msf-intl/index.html I bet all of those people would love to have their biggest problem be, "they said mean things to me while I was sitting in my climate controlled home drinking a Mr. Pibb while playing a video game from the comfort of my couch".
 

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His last words. "Gay eliminators out"

Like others: He doesn't get it and he never will.
 
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