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Honestly, your comments is really useless here.
What a waste even responding to your nonsense.Look in my sig.
]|[ Mar']['in ]|[;1031799766 said:
If you want a good analogy, here's one : Someone show some pics of his Ashton Martin Vanquish car, everyone comment on how nice the car is and you say it's useless and inefficient when a Toyota Yaris can do the same task, which is to move around...
5. Required Software
Here are few utilities you'll need to continue, all are freeware.
CoreTemp is a great app to read the core temperature of your multi-core processor. Id recommend that you download the public beta (version 0.95.4) which addresses the old coretemp crashes my system bugs. It has been very stable for me.
Speedfan is another app you can use to measure your temps that is very robust and stable. BEWARE that the core temps speedfan reports (as of version 4.32 anyway) are INCORRECT on C2Q chips! They are too low by 15 °C.
You can go in the software and change the offsets to read +15 degrees for each core (hit the configure button, then Advanced tab, then select the INTEL CORE array from the Chip pull down menu and give each of the cores an offsets +15)
I know this through an experiment running both Speedfan and Coretemp at the same time while having each app log a set of load temps. I then meticulously analyzed the log files and averaged the exact time points (down to the last second) from each log to ensure a fair comparison. When I took the difference of the average CoreTemp numbers, and the average Speedfan numbers, I found that the averaged Speedfan numbers were too cold by the following values:
Code:Core 0: 15.002 Core 1: 15.069 Core 2: 15.049 Core 3: 14.979
Just so you know, Speedfan and Coretemp both report "different" temps at any given point in time, but if you average them out, they are the same. In other words, they are either taking the temp readings a slightly different time points, or more likely, doing some sort of averaging on reads they display. The point is that both apps accurately report my core temps. You can also use speedfan to get your NB (Northbirdge) chipset temp which is something that Coretemp cannot do.
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That's pretty much it. Do NOT trust the temperatures that your motherboard's free temp utility reads. "PC Probe 2" that comes with Asus boards really sucks because it's not measuring your core temps. They are what you really care about.
There are other temp monitoring programs and other stress testing programs too. These are what I recommend.... I'll only mention one other by name with the advice that you do NOT use it: TAT (thermal analysis tool). It's made by Intel and I don't care what anyone else out there thinks: it was NOT designed to read the coretemps of a C2D chip. It was written for Pentium M chips. Yes, it will display temps, and yes, sometimes they match up with the values Coretemp/Speedfan display, but I have found that TAT often reports temps higher than the real values. How do I know this? Read this thread and pay attention to uncleweb's instructions to use crystalcpuid to directly read your DTS (digital temperature sensor) and calculate your core temp yourself if you don't believe me.
Point me to a place where it's noted to require 15C addition if used in Vista ?? I do have a lot of experience with CoreTemp accurancy since I did a lot of research last spring. The easiest way to see if we need to add 15C or not is to get the processor undervolted and at stock speed (or lower if you wish). If the core temp match ambient or 1-2C above, then it's accurate but if it is *below* ambient, then you need to add 15C. Anyone can do this test but it's pretty pointless since CoreTemp 0.95.4 is already calculating the temps correctly.
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