I was thinking the same thing, although I appreciate the sentiment expressed. Takes a bigger man to not be a douche in the first place.
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Battlefield 4 **Official Discussion Thread**
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I was thinking the same thing, although I appreciate the sentiment expressed. Takes a bigger man to not be a douche in the first place.
The industry cannot wait for the day that pc's and consoles can join the same servers. Microsoft has been sliding the industry in that direction since the Xbox was envisioned. It kills the board room guys that they have to spend money and time to develop better assets for the pc versions, when that time and resources can be spent on spitting out an entirely new title.
This will never happen. It was tried in the Dreamcast era, where Dreamcast players could play against PC players in Quake 3 Arena. It was abysmal.
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Have not checked on this thread in a week or two. I see nothing has changed, some people still seem to think this game is broken to the point it's unplayable.
Yet here I sit next to 8 or so friends who enjoy themselves 99% of the time we play this game and we do this almost every night.
Go play Titanfall if BF4 is so awful.
Yes, it has its issues and yes BF3's netcode might be better but it's still fun for me so quit complaining and ruining others fun (Please).
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Battle(non)sense has the videos that explain much of what is wrong with the game.
Here's a video showing the real effects of the "Netcode" issues.
Here's an update to that video.
Here's a video discussing an FOV "wallhack."
Here's a video showing how client side object physics can ruin the game.
If you watch those, you'll understand where people are coming from. Also, someone's comments on the internet shouldn't disable your ability to have fun.
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Pretty sure I played with you on the Nosnipers BF4 server the other night - PURE_Gunslinger
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I am glad that the proof is finally there, and explained. It is just pitiful that the game is ruined in such a manner. I agree completely too, no more DICE games after this fiasco.
They did this with Shadowrun when vista came out too didn't they? I seem to recall them cancelling cross platform PVP after the controller users got royally stomped on for 2 days.
Wrong. Its the opposite, Microsoft has been vehemently against x-platform multiplayer and continue to be, as recently as last week I read about a developer stating MS didn't want it when it was offered to them for a title the developer wanted to allow PC/XBONE multiplayer on the same servers.
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Despite the numerous issues over the past 5 months, I have still been able to enjoy myself. I could deal with some of the wonkiness. I could deal with the shots not registering sometimes. I could deal with the crashes. I could deal with all of it...until now.
The rubberbanding going on with the Naval Strike DLC makes the game unplayable. Up until now, I've been very fortunate until recently. I can't just quit a server and join a new one. It is happening on every server that is equipping the DLC at all. The map switches, then everything is fine for 20 minutes, then it is back in full force.
I will be flying an attack jet, then all of a sudden I'm teleported 50 feet behind me, along with the target I was shooting at. I will peel off my attack run with plenty of altitude, then be teleported backwards straight into the ground and into a tree that wasn't there when I made the strafing run to begin with. Every 2 seconds, literally 2 steps forward, 1 step back. It happens in all vehicles, on foot, doesn't matter the situation. You don't even get a fighting chance against what is shooting you because you can literally just die like you were one shotted by something when reality is you were a sitting duck running in place on the enemy's screen.
I can no longer enjoy the game if I can't even play it. I'm going to have to stop playing on servers with the DLC.
I am very tempted to switch to Titanfall at this point.
Agreed. I have the same issues on full Naval Strike servers. I haven't played the expansion since the first night as a result (also, fuck boats).
Zavod 311 is still fun though. Rogue Transmission and Dawnbreaker are decent too.
Easy there, ace. You're putting words in people's mouth.
they are having an open discussion. if reading views other than your own ruins your fun perhaps it might be best to avoid forums where people with differing views discuss that what you are having fun with?
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Anybody seen any BF4 premium deals?
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thebufenator
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just need to have an option on the console side to disable cross play with pc user's if they don't like it. so the console players that do want the added challenge can opt in to play with pc users if they want too.
I had the rubberbanding issue day 1, but by the next day it was gone. Too bad you guys are still having RB issues. BF4 has some serious problems.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qqy4pSPVI
Just a fun little BF4 video i threw together. The kill at the end was what gave me the idea to do it. It reminded me of the proton torpedo scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0qqy4pSPVI
Just a fun little BF4 video i threw together. The kill at the end was what gave me the idea to do it. It reminded me of the proton torpedo scene.
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Nice job on the video....
I should start working on the next montage tomorrow night myself!
Fox still owns the rights to the original movies,
"criticism, reporting, parody, satire, or scholarship, or as the raw material for other kinds of creative and transformative works, the resulting work will likely fall within the bounds of fair use."
It is also a non monetized video, all my videos are non monetized i don't make money off youtube or my videos.
Youtube is pretty strict about video uploads, they have both visual and audio processing tech to find copyrighted work and that includes automatically checking my video for offending work. and the video in question has no flags on it so i should be ok.
If i were to upload like 5minutes of the movie unedited there would be an instant copyright flag based on the visual content issued by youtube for FOX but this video should fall under fair use. since it is modified for parody purposes.
"criticism, reporting, parody, satire, or scholarship, or as the raw material for other kinds of creative and transformative works, the resulting work will likely fall within the bounds of fair use."
It is also a non monetized video, all my videos are non monetized i don't make money off youtube or my videos.
Youtube is pretty strict about video uploads, they have both visual and audio processing tech to find copyrighted work and that includes automatically checking my video for offending work. and the video in question has no flags on it so i should be ok.
If i were to upload like 5minutes of the movie unedited there would be an instant copyright flag based on the visual content issued by youtube for FOX but this video should fall under fair use. since it is modified for parody purposes.
LOL awesome
Sad to say that my team has completely abondoned this game for ESO and Titanfall. If the next BF game isn't done right, this series will have gone the way of the cod series.
If an fps game is not capable of being used for competition, I believe it will die on the vine. Let this be a lesson to developers. Not that it will be heeded but yeah. Sad panda.......
If an fps game is not capable of being used for competition, I believe it will die on the vine. Let this be a lesson to developers. Not that it will be heeded but yeah. Sad panda.......
Actually I think competitive teams are in the minority.
This is quite untrue. Professional competitive gaming is a very small chunk of the install base. BF3 did just fine without being used in competition.
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I think you are missing his [Spaceman's] point entirely too. Also, you need to consider the fact that DICE wanted BF4 to be used competitively. Yet, with the inconsistency of the netcode there is no true "game" to play in the competitive manner. What I mean is, are you going to go to a casino to gamble by throwing dice if there are no standards? You expect particular rules, and odds, a paradigm of gambling.
BF4 is the biggest failure of the gaming industry on so many levels. But I think the majority will agree that you cannot expect a game to be used for competitive play when your shots do not register a hit. Especially, to an opponent player that is standing still, or laying down prone. I mean honestly, how the fuck does one expect to have any fun even in this game with this? Because I find the inconsistency of game play too frustrating myself. What is the point in shooting if it cannot register? What is the point of knifing the opponent from take down position (behind) only to have them counter, as if they were facing you all along.
The game is a piece of shit. It is time that people start to awaken, and stop having Phantom Menace syndrome.
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it has it's problems, but they have gotten better, and the biggest help is that I don't take it too seriously.
It's fun to go in and blow some shit up and shoot people down... 99% of the time I never have any issues with the netcode or non registered hits, that other 1% I just dont worry about.
I think a lot of the problems could be fixed if servers would just enforce a standard of ping. When the last DLC game out, all the kids 10,000 miles away in asia were playing on US servers so they could access it early. Server after server had people with 250-300ms pings. I got better pings from a 56K modem 15 years ago... personally I think you should be auto-kicked if your ping spikes above 100 in any server.
The net code isn't the best, but there are external factors that just exacerbate the problem
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My clan left also. I haven't fired up the Naval DLC to even see what the maps look like. It's not that the maps or game is bad per se. It's that the inconsistencies make it more frustration inducing than fun. I believe that having a game that is consistent enough to be considered for competition is great for the everyday gamer as all systems work properly. Every single time I unload 2 clips into someone's back at 5 feet and they turn around and head shot me I rage. I just don't understand why I lost. Too many other games in my library to worry about one broken one though.
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Once I started taking that approach, this game has been somewhat enjoyable. Too bad no one I know plays this game these days.
90% of my large (37 player) BF3 clan abandoned BF4 within two weeks of the game's release, but I hung around hoping it would get better - and I don't mean crashing and hitreg and latency and "omg DYCE fix teh netcodez" bandwagon whining, because I never had a problem with those issues.
Problem is the game just isn't fun, TTK is too low - on the level of an arcade game - it's just missing that special "something" that has slowly been eroding since they began catering to console squeakers, CoD crossovers and casuals that don't understand combined arms, "hate vehicles" and think everything should 1v1 everything else no matter what. The new Target Audience whined that chess was too hard/complex/boring/OP and demanded checkers ezmode instead. DICE indulged them.
Uninstalled the day Naval Strike released after playing the maps once or twice. Should've done it sooner. The community is also one of the worst and most obnoxious I've experienced, especially the trolls that roam Battlelog.
I've tried to rationalize that its just a generational shift that's happened, and I'm the odd man out now - like how annoying an 18 and over club can be when you're in your 30's - its not the annoying, screaming Biebers running around that are out of place. Its me.
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Jack even said it in his video, it probably has happened to everyone, we just didn't know it yet.
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For me the game is missing a Talah Market/Alladin Bazaar/Nostril Canals/Sharky Peninsula type map where it's mostly infantry-like, but NOT regulated to a couple of ridiculous chokepoints spamming explosives. Got my 50th attack heli star as mostly pilot and I'm losing interest in the game cause all I have left to do is DMR's and sniper rifles which is not fun for me. Lockers and Metro are stupid really because all everyone does is spam grenades or rockets. Anyone need a good pilot and help with getting attack heli kills, I'll be more than glad to help.
You're missing my point.
My opinion is that your methods of assessing an FPS game's quality are questionably relevant.