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Looks like they fixed the stupid blue radar.
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Wow, you must not have been around Battlefield forums when all those games were released. This is how it really was:Yeah, you clearly don't understand, especially by comparing BF3->BF4 to Bioshock->Bioshock:Infinite. A more apt comparison would be Bioshock->Bioshock 2.
Let's look at the Battlefield series up to this point...
Battlefield 1942 - obviously original
Battlefield: Vietnam - completely new setting
Battlefield 2 - completely new setting
Battlefield 2142 - completely new setting
Battlefield 3 - (misguided?) attempt to flesh out single player
Battlefield 4 - new... nothing
Every game in the series has brought something new to the table until now. It's not surprising that some people are underwhelmed. To be fair, we haven't seen the MP, but I'd be surprised if it brought anything radically new to the table.
Wow, you must not have been around Battlefield forums when all those games were released. This is how it really was:
Battlefield 1942 - obviously original
Battlefield: Vietnam - perceived to be just a Vietnam mod for BF1942. People complained that they were buying an expansion for new-game prices.
Battlefield 2 - completely new setting, great innovation
Battlefield 2142 - perceived to be just a futuristic mod for BF2. People complained that they were buying an expansion for new-game prices.
Battlefield 3 - Engine upgrade, attempt to draw in the console audience.
Battlefield 4 - perceived to be just DLC for BF3
The feelings towards BF4 is nothing new, we just have to sit tight until we can get some hands-on reviews to really see what is and is not "new" in BF4.
It looks good, but not really impressive to me. It's a step up from 3, but i expected a bit more from "next gen" game i guess. I see my friend the sun, lens flare and all the "artistic" goodies are here to stay.
I would like to see multiplayer, this Hollywood crap does nothing for me. This is the first time ever that i said meh about upcoming BF game. Maybe i'm just getting old for this
Yah! Another generic modern FPS that is identical to the current FPS it is replacing. If they ever tighten up the gunplay and utilized hit-scan hit detection I might get it. We need more compettive MP FPS games not press-a-button-show-all-enemies-on-the-map-and-guns-with-no-recoil type of game.
Can't we get a competitive game in the mold of Counter Strike, but with 'aim down the sights (ADS)'? That's all I want.
Really? This is BF3.1 at best.
why aren't more games made with the Frostbite engine besides the Battlefield series...that footage looked stunning...Wow! that might be the best looking game I've ever seen going by that video
I was unaware the theme of Battlefield was accuracy and realism. It's certainly better than CoD. If you want what you described then go play ARMA. Battlefield isn't trying to be ARMA.
JoeUser knows what he speaks. Arma III will fill the 'realism' niche quite nicely. Its an excellent game, btw.
BF4 is EA's mandate to DICE to capture COD marketshare no matter the cost, with even more pressure to do so when factoring they sat out the holiday 2012 sales window with MOH:WF that turned out to be a non-offering and BLOPS2 steamrolled.
This really does just look like BF3.1...
Defend this shit all you want, but they are making deliberate efforts to make the franchise a yearly rehash ala COD. Its pathetic.
It looks good, but not really impressive to me. It's a step up from 3, but i expected a bit more from "next gen" game i guess. I see my friend the sun, lens flare and all the "artistic" goodies are here to stay.
I would like to see multiplayer, this Hollywood crap does nothing for me. This is the first time ever that i said meh about upcoming BF game. Maybe i'm just getting old for this
Nothing but eye candy to get people excited, I'm more concerned about gameplay. Server-side hit detection and squad voice chat in game or else this is just Battlefield 3.1
I was about to type something very similar to this. I don't think it's getting older in my case, it's more like my realization that I hate playing goofy scripted single player games that try too hard to be action movies.
I envy the mass of gamers who don't mind plopping down $60 for an on the rails experience with multiplayer. I guess I've been jaded. to each their own though!
this is the same reason why I haven't bought a Madden game in 5 years; just updated rosters and a few new animations.
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"On the rails" as you put it, is necessary to tell a compelling story in a FPS. You simply cannot have the cinematic control that is needed if you have some sort of open world / sandbox type game.
It's a necessary evil, and if the story is good enough, if the cinematics are good enough, it's worth it.
The game looks considerably better than BF3, though.
On rails != "press space to win", which is what the MMS genre has become. Half of the time if you do something contrary to the scripting you lose, even if it makes more sense. That's ridiculous."On the rails" as you put it, is necessary to tell a compelling story in a FPS. You simply cannot have the cinematic control that is needed if you have some sort of open world / sandbox type game.
It's a necessary evil, and if the story is good enough, if the cinematics are good enough, it's worth it.
Medal of Honor Warfighter comes to mind.