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DPI

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I'm not going to cancel, I learned long ago that I have two choices, one is to participate and play a thing sorta like the thing I remember and want again, or not participate. Mehwarrior 5 is the perfect example of this, its not the MechWarrior I want, but it is still more MechWarrior so I'll take it and hope that maybe the resulting analytics give me more and a little better. The only way I'll get the game I want is if I made it and I'm not doing that.
The "I'm canceling my preorder" grand declarations always ring hollow anyway. It's the ultimate declaration of powerlessness and tiny peepee. People that genuinely lose interest in a game usually just fade away without investing more energy to make it known. And people that swear they're canceling either never had a preorder to begin with, or will be right there on day one spamming F5 waiting for the game to unlock. 100%. We can nitpick tweaks to the aesthetics and mechanics from one BF game to the next, but you more or less know what you're getting in a BF title.
 
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Congrats on your results from "24 and Me". Yes, I hate women, so much in fact that I *don't* want to be able to murder them by the dozens in a video game.

Everyone has a right to enjoy a video game. I'll never understand the self hating mentality that brings these kinds of arguments. One of my favorite games of the past 20 years: Mirror's Edge. Guess how many times I cared about the gender or ethnicity of the protagonist? Zero. The only people that care about gender or racial identity in games are those who seem to hate their gender or race, you've just convinced me.
I'm so confused? If you don't give a fuck then why are you acting so whiny about it? Crying that your going to ask for a refund over the "sjw" crap you keep spouting off on about.

If you truly didn't care then it shouldn't make a lick of difference to you what race/sex they make any of the characters. Here's the difference between you and I, I don't care AT ALL what races/sex they want to make the characters. If they want Betty White clones running around with an m4 then Luther fucker I'm hunting Betty White tonight, but if it does make someone happy to have representation in the game and it doesn't affect me then it's not a big deal. I don't go running around crying about SJW this and that because who gives a fuck?

If you don't care like you claim then let this retarded fucking argument go and stick to discussing the actual gameplay before the mods end up closing this thread over stupidity.
 

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Crying that your going to ask for a refund over the "sjw" crap you keep spouting off on about.
The thing is, social justice has nothing to do with race or sex. It's about equality among classes of people.
When it comes to the radical social justice warriors, they want to change the narrative of reality to fit there own perspective.

People from all backgrounds serve in the arm forces, there's nothing SJW about that.
When people try to take away the harshness of basic training to allow women and emo people to pass easier, that's SJW.

As you said, women will get fragged in this game just the same. Now if DICE didn't allow women to be knifed, only men, now there's a SJW claim.
BFV was SJW nonsense because it changed the reality of what WWII was.
 

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The thing is, social justice has nothing to do with race or sex. It's about equality among classes of people.
When it comes to the radical social justice warriors, they want to change the narrative of reality to fit there own perspective.

People from all backgrounds serve in the arm forces, there's nothing SJW about that.
When people try to take away the harshness of basic training to allow women and emo people to pass easier, that's SJW.

As you said, women will get fragged in this game just the same. Now if DICE didn't allow women to be knifed, only men, now there's a SJW claim.
BFV was SJW nonsense because it changed the reality of what WWII was.
Exactly, I don't care if they make a purple lepricon as an option as long as the hitbox is the same. A target is a target for me and I could give zero shits what they look like, it's just a fricken video game. Like I said, if it makes someone else happy to have representation in the game, and it doesn't in any way affect gameplay then fucking rock on and represent!
 

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Exactly, I don't care if they make a purple lepricon as an option as long as the hitbox is the same. A target is a target for me and I could give zero shits what they look like, it's just a fricken video game. Like I said, if it makes someone else happy to have representation in the game, and it doesn't in any way affect gameplay then fucking rock on and represent!
Your first response was hilarious illogical twaddle, and this confirms it. Go play COD, and leave a once-decent franchise to those who want it back. You have a shitty game with Rambo, clowns, purple guns, etc. Stop arguing to make other games just like the garbage you prefer.
 

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Yeah, the whole specialist thing going on there, I'm not feeling it so I will just sit this one out too. Shame, I had hope for it too.

I wish Battlefield was like more Battlefield 2 back in the day. Even Battlefield 4 which is the last iteration I've played.
the xbox game pass for PC is only $1 for the first month and includes EA play, so you can try portal for 10 hours.
 

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I don't understand...why couldn't they have just given us a custom character creator or skin set, and we could each choose the special ability we would like to use? The special abilities could be un-lockables and/or purchasable items but they wouldn't need to be tied to a specific operator. Seems like that would be the best compromise.

Rather than forcing me to play as someone with cringy looks and a name such as "Gunner", "Hardball", "Knife Edge" etc etc...
 

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I don't understand...why couldn't they have just given us a custom character creator or skin set, and we could each choose the special ability we would like to use? The special abilities could be un-lockables and/or purchasable items but they wouldn't need to be tied to a specific operator. Seems like that would be the best compromise.

Rather than forcing me to play as someone with cringy looks and a name such as "Gunner", "Hardball", "Knife Edge" etc etc...

Because otherwise how are they are going to shove the irrelevant backstories and sexual orientations/genders/pronouns of the specialists in your face?

https://www.pcgamer.com/au/battlefield-2042-introduces-non-binary-character-a-first-for-the-series/

Now that we have hit peak cringe, its time for the game to be renamed "Cringefield 2042".
 
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EA is really going overboard with the he/she/non-binary aspects...if the gameplay is really good then I don't think most people would mind...but they really are making a point to emphasize these characters over gameplay which is the wrong move

reminds me of the last season of Star Trek Discovery which also introduced gay/non-binary characters for the sake of being more inclusive
 
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Yeah no sorry, unless you're pregnant or are a conjoined twin, I'm not calling any one person by a plural noun. =/

You can't change reality and known science to suit your mood and expect or feel entitled the world to change for you, that's just unreasonable, in my opinion.

I'm officially out. I don't need to know a character's SEXUAL orientation or SEXUAL preference or what GENITALIA they may or may not have or any such related nonsense in a shooting video game
That's completely irrelevant and inappropriate. Officially a no buy from me.



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EA is really going overboard with the he/she/non-binary aspects...if the gameplay is really good then I don't think most people would mind...but they really are making a point to emphasize these characters over gameplay which is the wrong move

reminds me of the last season of Star Trek Discovery which also introduced gay/non-binary characters for the sake of being more inclusive
Battlefield: The Sims

I'm officially out. I don't need to know a character's SEXUAL orientation or SEXUAL preference or what GENITALIA they may or may not have in a shooting video game.
That's completely irrelevant and inappropriate. Officially a no buy from me. Not going to support this
The game was a no buy when the Beta was released. It's not worth $60, that's six months of GamePass membership.
I have the Xbox GamePass with EA so I can play it without any commitment, plus I have a few active coupons so the next few months are free.

All EA games are a no buy now.
 

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Because otherwise how are they are going to shove the irrelevant backstories and sexual orientations/genders/pronouns of the specialists in your face?

https://www.pcgamer.com/au/battlefield-2042-introduces-non-binary-character-a-first-for-the-series/

Now that we have hit peak cringe, its time for the game to be renamed "Cringefield 2042".

Wait, weren't some geniuses in here trying to say that there's nothing SJW about this game? Egg on face. Or is the term egg too cis normative now?
 

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Thinking I will cancel my gold edition preorder after seeing the bugs and sjw issues dice has put into play. I'll buy it eventually if the game gets fixed up maybe, or just continue playing bf4 :D.
 

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Wait, weren't some geniuses in here trying to say that there's nothing SJW about this game? Egg on face. Or is the term egg too cis normative now?
EA is at the line but hasn't stepped over it just yet. The in-game currency buys stuff but "for now" is not tied to real money.
Sexual orientation of Sundance is pandering more than SJW, but it's getting there. Whatever pandering EA is doing or the in-game currency hasn't effected the gameplay.....yet.

To be SJW it has to alter gameplay, history or current reality i.e. BFV.
2042 allows EA to make their own history.

Still a no buy though, they are saying this isn't for hardcore fans without saying it. Portal will have bug and balance issues because of mixed content.
 

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SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS​

  • MINIMUM:
    • Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
    • OS: 64-bit Windows 10
    • Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600, Core i5 6600K
    • Memory: 8 GB RAM
    • Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 560,Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
    • DirectX: Version 12
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Storage: 100 GB available space
  • RECOMMENDED:
    • Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
    • OS: 64-bit Windows 10
    • Processor: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X, Intel Core i7 4790
    • Memory: 16 GB RAM
    • Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 6600 XT, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060
    • DirectX: Version 12
    • Network: Broadband Internet connection
    • Storage: 100 GB available space
 
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100 GIG game sure DLC will push it way higher.

I have a bare 1TB SSD in my system not sure if I'll put in on there or somewhere else.
Have X5 SSDs X1 HDD cause I couldn't live without it.
 

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Because otherwise how are they are going to shove the irrelevant backstories and sexual orientations/genders/pronouns of the specialists in your face?

https://www.pcgamer.com/au/battlefield-2042-introduces-non-binary-character-a-first-for-the-series/

Now that we have hit peak cringe, its time for the game to be renamed "Cringefield 2042".

Seen someone on another forum call it "inclusion", so what about the people that identify as aircaft carriers? They not good enough? No furries? Congrats dice on showing us you learned fuck all from the cluster fuck that was bfv, not like we expected any different. Learning nothing is in the company genetics.
 

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I don't understand why "SJW" concerns (either pro or con) matter all that much as long as the player is not aggressively forced to accept a particular ideology. Either the gameplay is good or it's not.
 

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I don't understand why "SJW" concerns (either pro or con) matter all that much as long as the player is not aggressively forced to accept a particular ideology. Either the gameplay is good or it's not.
its because everyone gets super butthurt if it isn't something they don't agree with it, or doesn't fit their agenda.
 

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its because everyone gets super butthurt if it isn't something they don't agree with it, or doesn't fit their agenda.
A good chunk of it is an evolution of that 'If I'm around gays, it'll make me gay!'. Sadly, there are legitimate critizisms that get overshadowed by reductive and idiotic discussion around genitals.

I have no issue what so ever that the pixals I am playing maybe lgbtq______, but I do have issues with sloppy production, poor gameplay, and bad writing, which corporations often try to hid under a blanket of almost random SJW crap to protect their IP from critics.
 
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A good chunk of it is an evolution of that 'If I'm around gays, it'll make me gay!'. Sadly, there are legitimate critizisms that get overshadowed by reductive and idiotic discussion around genitals.

I have no issue what so ever that the pixals I am playing maybe lgbtq______, but I do have issues with sloppy production, poor gameplay, and bad writing, which corporations often try to hid under a blanket of almost random SJW crap to protect their IP from critics.
Pretty much this. As soon as they start rolling the SJW stuff out I'm already thinking "Oh boy, what are they trying to divert criticism from?" It's been done so many times already. Mediocre game/movie/whatever comes out, but has a layer of "inclusiveness" slathered on top. People call out said entertainment for being mediocre. Media jumps to "Entertainment X is being targeted by racists/homophobes/bigots/etc!" in response to any criticisms.

It's practically a formula by now.
 

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Pretty much this. As soon as they start rolling the SJW stuff out I'm already thinking "Oh boy, what are they trying to divert criticism from?" It's been done so many times already. Mediocre game/movie/whatever comes out, but has a layer of "inclusiveness" slathered on top. People call out said entertainment for being mediocre. Media jumps to "Entertainment X is being targeted by racists/homophobes/bigots/etc!" in response to any criticisms.

It's practically a formula by now.
FWIW, in this case nothing was "rolled out". It's not being advertised. Someone asked a DICE developer a question on Twitter, the developer responded. So "they're ramming it down our throats!" is kind of a stretch.
 
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Battlefield died after 2142 when Bad company came out and they consolized all the games into garbage.
100% this. Weirdly a few friends said it reminded them a bit of 2142 in a few ways. Obviously won't hold a candle to it, but interesting nonetheless.
 

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I hope maps have tons of vehicles and are HUGE. I want to see massive tank battles. And big outdoor open maps.

If it’s 128 players there should be like a dozen tanks per side and like 6 helicopters per side all available to play at once. So big maps with 24 tanks and 12 choppers all battling at once in a game.

Like a real battle. Not this CoD arcade crap of close quarter shooting and just a couple vehicles only. That type of gameplay sucks.
 

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I hope maps have tons of vehicles and are HUGE. I want to see massive tank battles. And big outdoor open maps.

If it’s 128 players there should be like a dozen tanks per side and like 6 helicopters per side all available to play at once. So big maps with 24 tanks and 12 choppers all battling at once in a game.

Like a real battle. Not this CoD arcade crap of close quarter shooting and just a couple vehicles only. That type of gameplay sucks.
I don't think that amount of vehicles is in the cards (I would LOVE it too) and believe it or not but a large part of the Battlefield playerbase is very resentful towards vehicles (because when one starts shooting at you you can't do anything but respawn so it's frustrating, and some skilled players dominate servers with them because of bad teamplay) so they need to strike a very fine balance.
 

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Hope there's an option for no sniper servers. Snipers just kill all the fun. Spawn, walk 5 feet and splat dead. Spawn again walk a few second, bam dead.
 

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Hope there's an option for no sniper servers. Snipers just kill all the fun. Spawn, walk 5 feet and splat dead. Spawn again walk a few second, bam dead.
Sniping in 2042 appears to be a bit better... Meaning if the crossheir is over the opponent's head it's not necessarily a headshot.
 
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