Bar Receives 500 DMCA Notices Last Week

rgMekanic

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Mac's Bar in Lansing, Michigan received 500 DMCA notices last week The bar's talent buyer tweeted the news on the 22nd, showing the 500 pages of DMCA notices. Each of the violations occurred between 9:40 and 10:30 on the day that the bar was hosting a juggalo Valentine's Day hip-hop show. Apparently a concert goer downloaded Three Six Mafias entire discography over the bars WiFi during the show.

I think the lesson here is you have a room full of lonely, drunk juggalos on Valentine's Day, make sure your WiFi is secured. One can assume the perpetrator is sipping a Faygo and laughing.
 

U-238

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I think the lesson here is you have a room full of lonely, drunk juggalos on Valentine's Day, make sure your WiFi is secured monitored. One can assume the perpetrator is sipping a Faygo and laughing.

FTFY. Many bars/pubs offer free WiFi access. Others allow it if you've purchased something (food/drink). Security isn't the issue (the patron was probably securely downloading that discog), it's monitoring the bandwidth consumption of single devices and booting anything that takes over a threshold.
 

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Blocking torrents is a click away in some routers, the owners should of thought of that before giving away free WiFi.
Or... maybe we should realize that he did nothing criminally, and had no intention to aid in such things.
Man with that logic I can't lend my neighbor a knife for his turkey cuttings, without fearing I would go in jail if he killed someone with it.

Common sense should be part of the law.
 

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500? One per song? Huh? How? I've never heard of shit like this before. I've never even gotten a DMCA notice ever for music at least...
 

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Or... maybe we should realize that he did nothing criminally, and had no intention to aid in such things.
Its not we, its them, corporations. They have no souls, so no they won't realize anything about your intentions, they'll send lawyers after you first as their shareholders expect them to.
And common sense isn't so common, as this bar owner had none.
 

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Or... maybe we should realize that he did nothing criminally, and had no intention to aid in such things.
Man with that logic I can't lend my neighbor a knife for his turkey cuttings, without fearing I would go in jail if he killed someone with it.

Common sense should be part of the law.
Given the prevalence of torrenting of copyrighted works, the logic is closer to lending your angry neighbour a knife while you just heard them screaming 'I am gonna kill you' to each other.
 

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FTFY. Many bars/pubs offer free WiFi access. Others allow it if you've purchased something (food/drink). Security isn't the issue (the patron was probably securely downloading that discog), it's monitoring the bandwidth consumption of single devices and booting anything that takes over a threshold.
And ruining it for those of us who could use it to do legal legitimate stuff out home capped crapnet doesn't let us (like get large games we bought since you can't seem to get them on disk anymore)...as the saying goes this is why we can't have nice things.
 

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It often amazes me the total mental disconnect of what wi-fi is. To many people I've encountered they perceive it as an entitled thing that magically provides internet. Obviously, some of the people providing it didn't know either, but probably do now.

I refused to provide it at my job until I could incorporate the right hardware to control and limit access as needed. Many ISP's nowadays promoting their modem/routers with builtin wifi and guest accounts but most don't offer much in the way of controls of those accounts.
 

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Or maybe we should stop going after IP's as a method of tracking pirates? Cause of things like Wifi, it makes it hard to actually find the individual. Most Wifi routers aren't secure to begin with.
 

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Score one for Three Six Mafia! This was a good thing for them and they should reward the kid for this story as it just put them back in the light and I bet they profited from this.
 

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Given the prevalence of torrenting of copyrighted works, the logic is closer to lending your angry neighbour a knife while you just heard them screaming 'I am gonna kill you' to each other.
Might as well ban all internet use with that kind of logic...
 

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Why not sue the city for the roads that were used to travel to the Bar, the Power Company for the supplies power for the wi-fi and if he charged his phone there.

You are in a police state if your neighbors and associates are required to spy on you.
 

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Or... maybe we should realize that he did nothing criminally, and had no intention to aid in such things.
Man with that logic I can't lend my neighbor a knife for his turkey cuttings, without fearing I would go in jail if he killed someone with it.

Common sense should be part of the law.
This, so fucking much this. This is not locking your door sure, but you should not be criminalized because someone comes into your house makes up a batch of crystal meth Breaking Bad style, and leaves. (given the nature of the people at the bar this is I feel this a very good analogy).

Hey, at least it wasn't kiddie porn.
That you know of, they don't send DMCA notices for kiddie porn, and the "notices" that do come don't come anywhere close to as quickly as they do compared to DMCA, those practically get stuffed into envelopes before the song is even downloaded
 

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This, so fucking much this. This is not locking your door sure, but you should not be criminalized because someone comes into your house makes up a batch of crystal meth Breaking Bad style, and leaves. (given the nature of the people at the bar this is I feel this a very good analogy).
I think this is more in line with, someone asked to use your phone, and they called their drug dealer.
 

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I think this is more in line with, someone asked to use your phone, and they called their drug dealer.
Except that's not even illegal for the guy making the call. It's more like going to the local corner store and using their payphone to call in a bomb threat/do some swatting/whatever is the latest douchebag thing to do, then holding the store owner accountable...or the phone company... something like that.
 
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