Audeze Mobius Gaming Headset Review @ [H]

Discussion in 'Computer Audio' started by Kyle_Bennett, Oct 26, 2018.

  1. Buttoneer

    Buttoneer Limp Gawd

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  2. zrikz

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    Well that's unfortunate. After a few hours of head bashing with multiple wireless (BT) headsets, bose, sony, AKG, I discovered that bluetooth is incapable of doing both Audio and Microphone audio streams on a PC while maintaining a reasonable quality audio stream, or more realistically, on windows it just completely cancels out the audio portion in order to make the microphone work in handset mode, so having a "wireless gaming headset" is a lie to begin with. In the event they can get it to play nicely with windows with a custom driver, it still is only capable of handling mono sound and mono microphone due to BT bandwidth limitations.

     
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  3. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    That is pretty much my feeling. If it is not wireless USB, it is not a wireless gaming headset. I was a bit pissed when I found out I had to plug it in with their 5 foot cheap rubber covered USB cable. I feel as though I got lied to when purchasing it.
     
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  4. IdiotInCharge

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    At this point, we all do.

    I've refrained from posting on the review largely because I wasn't sure what to think, so I gave myself some time- but also because I feel guilty asking for the review in the first place.

    Their marketing pushed this as 'wireless gaming', and yeah, that means wireless USB apparently. I'd thought that that was what they were doing; that Bluetooth was mostly for phone/console compatibility, but it looks like they took the short route like they literally did with the cable.

    I'm happy about the reports of sound quality, though the reported 'tinniness' is worrisome. That should have been tuned or eq'd out. And the mic! What the hell? Did they think that they could just glue a high-quality transducer to the end of a plastic stick and have an acceptable solution for a gaming headset?


    Counterpoint:
    I'm very glad that this review was done- I'm glad that you (Kyle) were able to experience a higher-quality set of cans for gaming, and I'm glad that Audeze received some honest feedback. Let their mistakes be a warning to others that might want to build a high-end gaming headset based on audiophile-grade cans.
     
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  5. tungt88

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    (emphasis mine)

    That can be easily be done with low to mid-fi (as Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic, and Audio-Technica have proved with their respective "high-end" gaming headsets), but making it "wireless" doesn't seem to be the way to go, until Bluetooth is tossed out the window (very much an aging technology at this point).
     
  6. IdiotInCharge

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    I don't see Bluetooth itself as an end- its purpose isn't surround gaming headphones with head tracking, but rather passable audio quality for mobile stuff as well as basic data connectivity with a low power draw.

    It's not really the right technology today, at least, but it is probably the best technology to be extended for this kind of application. Eventually.

    For now, such endeavors are probably best left to various wireless USB techniques. Logitech probably has a lead here given how long they've been in that game.
     
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  7. LDAC = Lossless.

    Bluetooth isn’t going away, it’s here and will continue to improve, the aforementioned LDAC, it’s a lossless format, then we have Aptx, Aptx HD and Aptx Low Latency.

    Aptx is a ball hair away from lossless, LDAC is lossless.

    LDAC devices are few and far between, but that will grow, Aptx is nearly everywhere nowadays.

    No reason to think BT is shit now, BT is only shit if you need to use it on apple devices.
     
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  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    From Audeze today....which goes against what they said in that other forum thread. There are a total of 4 Audeze employees on this email thread.

    From: Redacted <Redacted@audeze.com>
    Sent: Friday, November 2, 2018 6:18 PM
    To: Redacted
    Cc: kyle@hardocp.com; Redacted
    Subject: Re: Mobius Unboxing and Review Contact Point


    Hello Kyle,

    We have a beta version of firmware that greatly improves the microphone. Please let us know if you will be interested int giving it a go.


    Thanks,

    -Redacted



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  9. Meeho

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    Maybe put something about this fiasco at the beginning of the review, to let people know what kind of company they're potentially dealing with. Sometimes that's just as important as the product itself.
     
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  10. Kyle_Bennett

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    Good suggestion, done. We updated page one of the review.
     
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  11. ir0nw0lf

    ir0nw0lf [H]ardness Supreme

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    Kyle, thanks for sticking to your guns over this. (y)(y)
     
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  12. B00nie

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    Bluetooth has so much lag that I would be surprised if someone actulaly used it for gaming.
     
  13. Kyle_Bennett

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    I tried it out before I sent those back....it was not an up to par PC gaming experience.

    Mobius is a joke for PC gamers that do not have money to burn.