centvalny said:Because early released BBA use the best batches of core gpu and samsung memory........exept for engineering sample cards..
thats BS...
a good batch is totally random...
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centvalny said:Because early released BBA use the best batches of core gpu and samsung memory........exept for engineering sample cards..
Its my personal experience based on last year first batch of BBA x800xtpe from compusa..with voltmod to 1.75V/1.8V.... and only 1.69V max (and ovp. shut it off) for newer batch of core from Sapphire x800xtpe...and its not BS...I dont know about youLyCoS said:thats BS...
a good batch is totally random...
rofl. quoted for truth.Spectre said:becasue ATI sent out the email canceling preorders?
centvalny said:Its my personal experience based on last year first batch of BBA x800xtpe from compusa..with voltmod to 1.75V/1.8V.... and only 1.69V max (and ovp. shut it off) for newer batch of core from Sapphire x800xtpe...and its not BS...I dont know about you
Heres Sapphire....vmod testing before permanent soldered mod....
and this ran with Sapphire......http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=1426005199
fallguy said:Then dont try to buy from ATi?
I linked to a X850XT in stock, for MSRP. How much easier can it get?
Major_A said:I saw this on the front page so I thought this would be a good place to ask. Is it me or does it seem that since they can not get any of thier "gamer" cards to the public are they in trouble? This releasing PR copies of the card and little more seems like the company is having financial hardships. The X800 XL is supposed to have a MSRP of $299 but I doubt that we will see that price point until the new line of vaporware cards are released. I have an ATi card in my gaming machine but this is the last one. This company seems to be misleading thier customers and to be honest I would rather buy American technology.
Thoughts?
The reason for the cancellation of orders was ATIs target to deliver enough RADEON X850-series products to its partners, among which are add-in-board partners, retail and e-tail partners as well as OEM partners.
burningrave101 said:ATI seriously doesn't give a shit about the end users. All they care about is filling their OEM orders to big businesses like Dell.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050218173648.html
Majin said:A side from the lack of these cards, it seem that alot of places in the states are jacking the price WAY up.
It would be alot cheaper to buy these cards from Canadian sites then buy from some of these stores you guys have down there.
I am just waiting for my Insurance money and then I am buying a 850xt for $720c. It was hard to find this card and price, but I made friends with a nerd who works in a computer store.
HERES A TIP: be friends with nerds in the computer business!
nessus said:Probably because of OEM contracts with penalty clauses...
a. Not supplying end users with hardware, unhappy end users
b. Not supplying OEM with hardware, unhappy OEM manufacturer and money out of the bank due to penalty clauses.
Which would you choose?
Major_A said:I have an ATi card in my gaming machine but this is the last one. This company seems to be misleading thier customers and to be honest I would rather buy American technology.
Thoughts?
Gillette said:People were saying the same thing when the X800XT line was released, you can't blame ATI if Samsung can't fill their orders*.
*Samsung being the RAM supplier for the X800 line. For the most part they are responsible for the lack of actual X800XT PEs due to their inability to fill the orders from ATI.
CrimandEvil said:Honestly I don't think theres any availablity issues, ATI is simply just selling these units to OEMs then to end users. They make more money and the enthusiast gets screwed unless he wants to pay over MSRP or get an Alienware or Dell.
I got 850xtpe oem with early prod. gpu (week 47/04) and hit 100k with stock air http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_view.php?run=487626194LyCoS said:thats 2 cards out of hundreds of thousands...
you probably got a good sample on one and a bad on the other...
ReVRiN said:Oh yeah I waited 8 months to the day for my x800XTPE from ATI that I bought at 60% of the MSRP. Was I mad about the wait? HELL YES. But gaming never looked so good!
fallguy said:Then dont try to buy from ATi?
I linked to a X850XT in stock, for MSRP. How much easier can it get?
BoogerBomb said:Walking in a store and buying a damned card. I dont like to order hardware online and having to wait anywhere from 3 days to a week to get the damned thing because why would I pay for the overnight or 2 day shipping charge and make it cost more than walking in a store and walking out with one?
BoogerBomb said:Walking in a store and buying a damned card. I dont like to order hardware online and having to wait anywhere from 3 days to a week to get the damned thing because why would I pay for the overnight or 2 day shipping charge and make it cost more than walking in a store and walking out with one?
I went from Nvidia only to an ATI card for the 9800Pro. Now it looks as though i'll be going back to Nvidia because you can find a plethora of their new cards all over the place and they have better performance and drivers to boot.
fallguy said:As noted above, tax kills any high dollar purchase around here. Its 9.25%. Making a $500 purchase almost $550.
I would much rather wait a few days and save $40-$50.
NV has cards all over the place? You found some PCI-E 6800GT and Ultras in stock locally?
ATi is cancelling the orders, because they dont want to leave people waiting forever. Yes it sucks, but its for the better. They are going to fill the OEM, and retail market first, and themselves last. So its better to cancel an order, instead of leaving them waiting for months on end.
dfedders said:Well, I bet its cheaper to pay online and have it shipped than it is to pay sales tax on it. Plus you don't have to wait 3 months for a store to get 3 in stock, and sell out before you get down there.
Wanab said:your say they just filled your order for a X800XTpe?
gordon151 said:It is cheaper. Plus he lives in texas too. Some of my orders from chiefvalue and zipzoomfly get routed through texas and they get here in 2 days (free shipping too). He should be able to get his stuff the next day unless they deliberately keep it for a day at the fedex shipping ramp.
^eMpTy^ said:no it's better to never take the order in the first place if you don't intend to fill it...let them prioritize however they want...just STOP LYING to people...
fallguy said:Yes its better to have not taken the order in the first place. Its also better to cancel the order, and let someone shop elsewhere that has them in stock. They are being upfront and honest about why they cancelled the order. You didnt order one, so stop complaining.
Are you aware that nVidia is located/founded in California? Are you aware that the are the ones that develop the technology and sell it to partner companies to actually make the cards?ReVRiN said:Before this turns into an ANTI-CANADIAN rant can you explain to me what exactly what is American technology? Would that be the GPU that is made in Taiwan, the RAM made in Singapore? Or are you talking about those American companies that sell technology to Best Buy? You know the American based NVidia, or Sapphire, or ASUS, ABit oh wait... none of those companies are American.
Blueprints made here and manucfactured elsewhereMajor_A said:Are you aware that nVidia is located/founded in California? Are you aware that the are the ones that develop the technology and sell it to partner companies to actually make the cards?
Spectre said:The Fry's in Atlanta has 6 visontek x850's in stock as of noon eastern. Up on the top shelf. They were listed for $549. No BBA cards of the x8xx series were anywhere to be seen.
Jima13 said:
^eMpTy^ said:just STOP LYING to people...
BoogerBomb said:Walking in a store and buying a damned card. I dont like to order hardware online and having to wait anywhere from 3 days to a week to get the damned thing because why would I pay for the overnight or 2 day shipping charge and make it cost more than walking in a store and walking out with one?
I went from Nvidia only to an ATI card for the 9800Pro. Now it looks as though i'll be going back to Nvidia because you can find a plethora of their new cards all over the place and they have better performance and drivers to boot.
PruBowl300 said:I was able to purchase my ATI X850 XT PE (OEM) $565 with all the accessories from FuturePowerPC.com. I ordered it last Sunday, and it shipped out Monday. It arrived at my door on Wednesday using the FREE UPS Ground shipping that they offered. I am very pleased with the card so far. I haven't really got much time to play with the overclocking, but it pretty much seems already tapped out, unless you change the cooling.