At this point, Nvidia deserves the "bad driver" scarlet letter as much as AMD

Discussion in 'Video Cards' started by bigbluefe, Feb 21, 2019.

  1. bigbluefe

    bigbluefe Gawd

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    The latest Nvidia drivers are a fucking trainwreck. G-Sync doesn't even work with them properly and tons of people are reporting constant driver crashes. It apparently tanked most people's performance in Apex Legends, too.

    Complete joke.

    AMD fried for less than this. I think Nvidia needs to get slapped around a bit so they get their shit together. AMD might actually have more solid drivers than this at this point. What a joke.
     
  2. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    People will never learn that both driver sets can cause headaches.
     
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  3. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Just wonder if the OP got it all out of their system with that post ;)
     
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    stashix Limp Gawd

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    Hello my friend. IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?
     
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  6. Armenius

    Armenius I Drive Myself to the [H]ospital

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    You should see what he posts in the Displays subforum.
    Same. Haven't had any issue with NVIDIA drivers since the 320 branch.
     
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    Stoly [H]ardness Supreme

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  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett Editor-in-Chief HardOCP Staff Member

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    I had to downgrade my driver set to play Anthem. Game would crash continuously with the latest NV driver. So yeah, there are some issues out there.
     
  9. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    I'm glad you posted because otherwise people will just ignore reality.
    Also I forget which revision it was but I've had two driver sets that just were no good for my Titan X.
     
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  10. Brian_B

    Brian_B 2[H]4U

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    I can’t run any driver in the 400 series without issues
     
  11. Stoly

    Stoly [H]ardness Supreme

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    Man, I gotta be the luckiest guy on earth regarding drivers (or have a bad case of alzheimer). I can't remember bad nvidia driver issues since the Tnt2 days
     
  12. Starrbuck

    Starrbuck 2[H]4U

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    I had to downgrade from 418.91 to 417.71 to keep Apex Legends from crashing. There is no way to be sure if that is a problem due to Apex Legends, NVIDIA, or both.
     
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  13. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett Editor-in-Chief HardOCP Staff Member

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    It was reported by a lot of other folks as well in the Anthem support forums. I was surely not alone.
    My bad... Apex, not Anthem.
     
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  14. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    Yeah I'm just saying whenever I post any Nvidia driver issues here I've got a chorus of people doing what the folks at the top of the thread were doing.
     
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  15. CAD4466HK

    CAD4466HK [H]ard|Gawd

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    I know a lot of guys in this forum are running Turing and want the latest drivers, but fuck I'm scared to death to run a 400 series driver after all the horror stories and hotfix's I've seen lately. I'm still on 399.24, and that's only because of Strange Brigade needing a newer version.

    Both sides have had their share of bad drivers. I've seen AMD drivers lock out fan control, power limit and BSoD when opening CCC. I've also had my pre-stable OC become a nightmare of BSoD's and CTD's while playing games after updating to a 1 version higher driver from Nvidia. Neither company is without their faults when it comes to drivers, but now they at least acknowledge the fact their having issues and try to fix them, not like it was a few years ago.
     
  16. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett Editor-in-Chief HardOCP Staff Member

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    First NV driver issue I have had in a long time.
     
  17. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    I've only had two.
    Point is people claim they never happen.
     
  18. Comixbooks

    Comixbooks Ignore Me

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    People on the Nvidia forum complain alot mainly about DSR Monitors and drivers not working since last year. I'm using drivers from 2018 myself 416.34 I think that is the set that came out support the 2080 series cards. If you find a good set stick with them and don't look back the extra FPS in newer games isn't worth it usually with the newer sets. They probably have to rewite the code from ground up and when the write in new code it gets messed up a bit.
     
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    The thread started off with a trollish poster ranting. He didn't get many serious responses due to the nature of his post and his posting history. Not one poster claimed Nvidia has never had issues, some said they don't have any issues currently while some said they have or had issues. You basically wandered in and made a strawman argument to make it seem like people were being unreasonable.
     
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    I read the first post and there is nothing trollish about it, just a very understandably frustrated user. Plenty of folks have claimed that Nvidia can do no wrong, even if it is not in this thread. Knowing me, if I had a NV card, I would have messed with the drivers anyways and then regret the decision to ignore the OP and Kyle. Oh well, things happen.........
     
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  21. Aireoth

    Aireoth 2[H]4U

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    The drivers recently, on my 2080ti, seem a lot worse then before. I have never had an nVidia driver issue until now, is it the drivers though, or instability in the card?

    It is probably driver, but there is additional hardware with RT and DLSS, which adds failure points, maybe newer drivers run into them?
     
  22. KazeoHin

    KazeoHin [H]ardness Supreme

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    Issue with Nvidia card: "Have you made sure you're using the latest Windows Update? How much RAM are you using? Are you overclocking, because that can cause issues. Are your chipset drivers up to date? Have you performed a RAM test to see if you have a faulty stick? Have you tested your system drive? Is the game installed on an SSD? Is Steam up-to-date? Is your PC getting enough airflow? How are you feeling? Everything alright with the wife?"

    Issue with AMD card: "AMDSUXLOLOLOLOL OLOLOL OLOOLOLLOLOL"
     
  23. Furious_Styles

    Furious_Styles [H]ard|Gawd

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    W10 and gsync have had some issues for a while, only recently did they get fixed. It was mainly related to borderless window mode. Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Apex is having stability issues in general, not just with that one nvidia driver release.
     
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    Stryke1983 Limp Gawd

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    I said "trollish poster", not post. Which led to some posters not treating him as seriously as a normal poster would have been. Not one person made the claim that the user I quoted mentioned. Therefore a strawman, and unnecessary, argument.
     
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    MMitch Limp Gawd

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    Ahah, summed it up perfectly. You get a cookie ! (Need the meme :eek:)
     
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  26. {NG}Fidel

    {NG}Fidel [H]ardness Supreme

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    Over the last 18 years I've seen more than enough posts that reflect exactly what I touched upon. Sorry my experience is hard for you to digest.
    This thread is about nvidia drivers reputation in reference to the quality of AMD/ATis drivers over many years. My posts may have ruffled some feathers with you but they are within the scope of the subject at hand.
     
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  27. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    That Nvidia drivers aren't perfect (how could that even be possible...) is true even as AMD drivers have more issues on average.

    We can only hope that when AMD gets around to supporting ray tracing (and perhaps DLSS-like denoising) that their drivers go over smoother than average.
     
  28. ManofGod

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    And this helps the OP in what way? First, you are likely wrong but even if you are right, that does not magically fix the Nvidia driver issues. Quick deflect from seeing the man behind the curtain!
     
  29. IdiotInCharge

    IdiotInCharge [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Ouch, I see I found the feels!

    Only the OP can really help the OP- finding a driver that works with their specific software and hardware through research and experimentation in place of exhasperating partisan whine posts. Hell, they already have some good leads shared!
     
  30. travm

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    I really dont get the "AMD drivers suck" mantra. I can recall when they actually did suck (it was an ATi thing). That was almost 20 years ago.
    Since then they've been par or better in my experience.
    Drivers are complicated. Sometimes they get fucked up by other drivers on your system. Sometimes other hardware can break them. Sometimes the viruses you have on your system from visiting sketchy sites can cause problems.

    I'm no Nvidia fan, but i'm sure they'll get their shit together. Creating a functional API for real time raytracing in games, along with whatever that DLSS bullshit is, is undoubtedly difficult.

    AMD will trip over their feet when they introduce new features and hardware designs too.
     
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    I remember them sucking much more recently, first hand, and am about to test their latest driver which might fix some 'suckage' that's been going on for over a year; I've been running a year-old driver to mitigate.
     
  32. Algrim

    Algrim [H]ard|Gawd

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    I never seem to have had major issues with either AMD or nVidia video drivers except for when Windows 10 Insider Edition decided I needed to play games in game mode and broke windowless colors until the next update. However, I place the blame for that squarely on Microsoft.

    Then again, my systems are dirt simple and I use them almost exclusively for gaming.
     
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    The only driver issue I had was HD3850 where in desktop colors in XP using standard fonts (no Clear Type) colors there were some discoloration going on and other zero issues with any card from 3Dfx/ATI/AMD/NV. I didn't even had to driver uninstall other than maybe eg. use normal driver uninstall to remove shortcuts from right mouse click on desktop.
     
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    Like forgetting 99% computers run UEFI systems :ROFLMAO:
     
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  35. KazeoHin

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    Yeah that was a bit of a WTF moment...
     
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    I picked up gears of War 4 recently and was getting crashes and stuttering in cutscenes. Had to roll back all the way to 382.53 to get the game stable. Of course users on rtx cards don't have any issues running the latest drivers and gears of War 4, just pascal cards and it seems Nvidia is sweeping this issue under the rug
     
  37. undone

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    Ha...anyone that has worked on desktops/laptops over the last 20 years knows that all drivers and updates are the bane of existence. Doing the driver dance is par for the course. If your not have some sort of driver issue (ever) your either really lucky or not updating ever. If a driver issue lasts more than a day, I might remember it....but I do have some fun stories dealing with stuff in the past.
     
  38. bigbluefe

    bigbluefe Gawd

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    Do you have a G-Sync monitor and/or multiple monitors?

    It's kind of the same old story. People who do nothing with their computers have fewer problems. It's like, no shit dude.
     
  39. bigbluefe

    bigbluefe Gawd

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    They weren't fixed. In fact, I never had a problem with G-Sync before the most recent drivers and have pretty much never had to roll back before this. The latest drivers blow. I can't believe Nvidia's even leaving them up.
     
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    This is seriously the first time I've had to rollback Nvidia drivers since 1998. It's bad.