ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2080 Ti $999.99

Revenant_Knight

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It has nothing to with AMD or the lack of competition. High end products have been escalating all over the industry. RAM, motherboards, monitors, everything. And it's not isolated to computers as well. Point blank it makes business sense to create halo products for a fraction of your audience and deliberately price everyone else out of them, even if it's not remotely worth it. For people that can afford it, the fact that most cant justifies the value in and of itself. For people that can't afford for it, the fact that they can't justifies paying more for shittier products than they are worth.

We've just hit the point where the parts in your computer have divided themselves up like this as well. But since computers are part of the market economy, it was only a matter of time.
Then why did Nvidia respond with the Super series when Navi launched? Why did Intel drop prices when Zen 2 launched?

Ignoring competition aspects of economics is to ignore capitalism’s fundamental motivator.
 

obs

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It has nothing to with AMD or the lack of competition. High end products have been escalating all over the industry. RAM, motherboards, monitors, everything. And it's not isolated to computers as well. Point blank it makes business sense to create halo products for a fraction of your audience and deliberately price everyone else out of them, even if it's not remotely worth it. For people that can afford it, the fact that most cant justifies the value in and of itself. For people that can't afford for it, the fact that they can't justifies paying more for shittier products than they are worth.

We've just hit the point where the parts in your computer have divided themselves up like this as well. But since computers are part of the market economy, it was only a matter of time.
It absolutely has to do with the lack of competition. Look at CPU prices for an example of what a competitive market looks like. Intel has had to lower prices across most of their line but especially the recent Cascade Lake-X (40-50% the cost of prior gen) because of threadripper and new Ryzen cpus.
 

MangoSeed

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Dumb comparison is dumb

1080ti and 2080ti are same class of hardware you wouldn't compare a base civic to a next generation type r and say WOW HONDA INCREASED IT'S PRICES SO MUCh

What you would do is compare like 9th gen si to 10th gen si. So if Honda increased the price of the 10th gen si by 1.7 times people would be like "WTF honda"

that's the argument being made, the 2080ti launched at a substantially higher price than the 1080ti (and 980ti)
Except the 2080 Ti and 1080 Ti are not the same class of hardware. The 2080 Ti is based on a 60% larger chip on the same node. How do you figure they're in the same class?

Is your 10th gen si 60% more expensive to manufacture?
 

sabrewolf732

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Except the 2080 Ti and 1080 Ti are not the same class of hardware. The 2080 Ti is based on a 60% larger chip on the same node. How do you figure they're in the same class?

Is your 10th gen si 60% more expensive to manufacture?
Except they are, they're both XX80 Ti

if they're not the same class of hardware, what is? 2080? which had nearly equivalent performance to the 1080ti at launch?
 

MangoSeed

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Except they are, they're both XX80 Ti

if they're not the same class of hardware, what is? 2080? which had nearly equivalent performance to the 1080ti at launch?
Marketing names have no direct bearing on manufacturing cost or sale price.

The point was that expecting the price to stay the same when the die size goes up 60% is not realistic.
 

Viper87227

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999? you got my attention good sir! where can I pay? :D
If you're serious, go check out Evga's store. The have an (admittedly worse) SKU in stock for $999, and you can get an extra $50 off with an associate code (easily found in their forums). IMO Evga is the only company worth considering if you have to buy a 2080 at this point in the cycle... at least with them you stand a chance at a step-up if Nvidia puts new cards out by May.
 
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