Asus P5E-VM HDMI: best matx ever?

Northbridge HS is 30mm. I would factor in about another 2-4mm for space between the PCB to the bottom of the heat sink. I'm using an Enzotech copper forged heat sink. I'm using zip ties to secure it with the stock springs as the holes are about 1-2mm too short. I have my NB voltage at 1.51 volts without any heat issues.
 
This board is awesome, indeed. My Q6600 is cruising along cool and comfortable at 3GHz (stock heatsink) and I feel like there is plenty of headroom left for the future. Also got an Asus 8800GT that surprised me with a non-reference heatsink design that also kicks ass. System is super quiet and running stable on my ancient 350 watt power supply (yeah, I know, weak-sauce!) in a Q-Pack. I believe this was the easiest new system install & overclock I've ever done.
 
dirtypop said:
This board is awesome, indeed. My Q6600 is cruising along cool and comfortable at 3GHz (stock heatsink) and I feel like there is plenty of headroom left for the future. Also got an Asus 8800GT that surprised me with a non-reference heatsink design that also kicks ass. System is super quiet and running stable on my ancient 350 watt power supply (yeah, I know, weak-sauce!) in a Q-Pack. I believe this was the easiest new system install & overclock I've ever done.
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What kind of temps are you getting?
 
As far as the black screen boot, Mine does that occassionally when trying to find the my maximum overclock or when I've pulled the power cord and plug it back in (I've been taking this rig to work every day).

What happens is it boots up fans blazing full speed (both GPU and CPU), immediately shuts down, pauses for approximately 3 seconds, and then boots up normally. I don't think it's a bug, but I think it's Asus' built-in OC protection/recovery features kicking in. I really like the feature as I have yet to reset CMOS from a failed OC.

I'm running along at 3.3 Ghz with 1.3V at idle and under load it drops to 1.22. This is with the Vdroop mod performed using conductive ink.

I know that I can go further, but I want to get a better heat sink. I'm using a Masscool model that Newegg doesn't stock anymore, but I'm pretty impressed with it for the 20 bucks that I spent on it. Since I'm running 8 gigs of RAM, I believe that may also be holding my OC back a bit as I'm having to underclock my RAM. It's rated for DDR1000 but requires more juice than the 2.2V to get it there and I'm not comfortable with the heat generated to get it there, so I'm taking advantage of the dividers and running it at DDR 900 or therabouts.

I'm also have virtualization enabled as I'm using VMWare.

Oh yeah, I get around 49\52C idle and about 67\70C load using Prime25.4 Those of you with Qpacks/Micro Flys, my side-panel mesh mod really makes a big difference in temps. I would say about 8-10C on both CPU and GPU temps at load.
 
hadn´t the time to test the black screen boot behavior. To much work. But pulling the pwer cord and plug it back is no problem for me. But I have different black screens. The ones MassiveOverkill descibes with fans full blazing speed. Then nothing more happens. The other ones the screen just stays black with normal fan behavior.

Btw, just ordered the new home of my system - a lian li v350 black. At last it´s available in Germany. Hope i´ll get it this weekend.:D
 
@ Allsop

The Kingston PC9600 belong to a friend. The performance wasn´t so good. The max i got was 1120 MHz with 4x1GB and 1160 MHz with 2x1GB. My friend is running them on a Gigabyte mAtx Board (don´t know the exact name) and he got the same values.
I run them with 2,4 V but to get them stable with 1120 MHz i had to raise the nb voltage to 1.39 V. But i´m not that specialist. perhaps another one could have had better results...
 
Hi Tremeloes :)

I wonder if it would be possible for you to run 3DMark2001 with the onboard graphics of the Asus P5E-VM HDMI.

I haven't ordered this motherboard yet, but everytime when I check with our online shop if it's still in stock, my heart makes a little jump, hehe ... even if it's with £105.- not cheap.

Well, my current P4 system doesn't allow to run any better 3DMark than the 2001 version, but it would be very interesting for me to see the difference in performance.
Despite the fact that I will get the GeForce 8800 GT sometimes soon anyway.

Here are the results of my aged little NEC Powermate (from 2003) with 3DMark2001

3D Mark Version 330
Width 1024
Heigth 768
Depth 32 bit
Z-Buffering 24 bit
Texture Format Compressed
Buffering Double
Refresh Rate 60 Hz
FSAA Mode None

Show Title Screen Yes
Continuous Benchmark No
Benchmark Run Count 1
Demo Sound Enabled Yes (But I couldn't hear anything)
Continuous Demo No
Games Sound Effect Enanbled Yes (Couldn't hear anything neither)
Game Music Enabled Yes (same problem)
Game Detail Level Low

Results
3D Mark Score 1735
Game 1 (low detail) 30.5 fps
Game 1 (high detail) 14.9 fps
Game 2 (low detail) 30.4 fps
Game 2 (high detail) 14.6 fps
Game 3 (low detail) 29.3 fps
Game 3 (high detail) 12.2 fps
Game 4 not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (single texturing) 246.2 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (multi texturing) 453.8
High Polygone Count (1 light) 5.1 MTriangles/s
High Polygone Count (8 lights) 4.7
Environment Bump Mapping not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping 27.6 fps
Vertex Shader 25.4 fps
Pixel Shader not supplied by hardware
Advanced Pixel Shader not supplied by hardware
Point Sprites 1.8 MSprites/s

System Info
Family Pentium 4
Internal Clock 2.79 MHz
External Clock 133 MHz
Socket 478
Cache L1 8 KB
Cache L2 512 KB

Display Device Intel 82845G/GL/GE/PE/GV Graphics Controller
Total Local Video Memory 16 MByte
Total Local Texture Memory 3 MByte
Total AGB Memory 48 MByte

Total Memory 768 MByte = 256 (333MHz) + 512 (400MHz)


Halo Combat Evolved (current favourite game) runs, as I said earlier, just about.
In 600 x 800 with 10 to 25 frames per second, depending on the level of action on the screen (online play at map Blood Gulch).
If it's getting busy, it can drop down to 1 or 2 fps sometimes. :eek:

Can you now imagine how much I'm looking forward to a new PC ? hehe ;)

Can I ask what is it about the strange auto re-start behaving with black screen and stuff ?
I have read the previous entries and understand that the overclock protection might kick in, but when I don't overclock ... will I still get the re-start effect ?

Oh, and will I have to do the V drop trick or can I just leave everything like it is ?

Thanks a bunch hardforum buddies !!
 
Hi Tremeloes

I wonder if it would be possible for you to run 3DMark2001 with the onboard graphics of the Asus P5E-VM HDMI.
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perhaps you´ll find a way to compare it with 3d01. Don´t know when i wil have the time to test again. Have a lot of work before christmas now...
I didn´t do the Vdroop mod by now but i will try it. It´s not necesarry to do it.
 
Just got mine up an running a few nights ago. P5E-VM HDMI with a Xeon 3060 being cooled by an old Zalman 7700 that I had left over from my SLI-DR/3000+ Venice build a few years back.

Currently running at 3.2 with no issues other than my Antec Neo 480 chose the day I installed the P5E to die (bad caps).

CPU is at 1.4v (can probably take it lower, I just haven't tested it yet) Vdroop is around .06 or so.
RAM is at 2.1v

All of that on a 250W (temporary) PSU :eek:
 
I first had a MSI G33 board ($62 newegg refurb) which barely ran my 6750 @ 3.0GHz 1.45v; absolutely horrible performance.

I swapped it for the P5E-VM and I'm currently at 3.4GHz, stock vcore, 55C load temps (scythe ninja, 1200rpm scythe s-flex fan @ 60% on the chassis fan header). I'm much happier with this board so far. One negative for me is the x16 slot placement, it leaves very little room for the HD in my NSK3480 case.

Full system specs:
NSK3480 (2 front 120mm yate loons, nexus rear), scythe ninja, EVGA 8800GT w/ AC1, abit airpace 54g, x-fi gamer, 4x1gb ddr2-800 ballistix
 
If its not showing the dvd drive in the mobo Bios then most likely you dont have it connected properly. Double check your connections again. The mobo BIOS should show all the drives in the boot sequence section of the Bios.
 
DarkCond0 said:
Guys... noob question for you...
Any ideas why it's not detecting my dvd drive?
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If its IDE, and the only device, make sure its set to Primary.
If its IDE, and there's two devices, one has to be Primary, the other Slave.
If its SATA, you messed up the connection. Check it again, try a different SATA port.
 
Anyone noticed how we can hear the data pass in the audio? It's been 2 weeks now I got the board but just started to use it more and now that I use headphone I notice I can hear some noise according to what seems to be data on the bus.

I started S.T.A.L.K.E.R. and it's a pretty quiet atmosphere and hearing this is bugging me.

That never hapenned with my previous Abit Fatal1ty F-I90HD motherboard.

Maybe this is also related since I installed a 8800GTS 512MB just 2 days ago but like I said between when I gor the motherboard and the video card I haven't played with it.

Can anyone do some testing or is aware how I could get rid of this annoying "digital" sound? I don't want to buy an audio card.

Thanks.
 
Just did the Vdroop mod. Looks good: Bios 1,5 V -> Idle 1,48 V ->Load 1,47 V.
Raised my max. stable FSB with 1.5V from 370 to 380. And it looks like the restart bug is gone.
@ Allsop
you did the Vdroop Mod, too. Do you have the restart bug?
 
Nope no restart bug.... but I have problem with memory... all my 4 sticks of ram have to be set in a certain order on the board.. if not they will not work...

I thought my memory died 2 weeks ago after a little OC atempt... my ram only worked with 1 stick at a time but not together... cleared CMOS, reflashed bios etc but it did not help...
Because I thought the memory was bad I bought 4 sticks of HyperX PC9600 and they worked perfectly at my OC at 4+ GHz... tried to raise the mem speed to 1200 and the same thing happen as with my Ballistixs, they would not work anymore, only 1 at a time.

BUT listen to this... my old Ballistixs worked again at my stable 4+ GHz...
Something is wrong with my board as it seems to have it's own will.... reflashing with 02 or 03 bios did not help..

I think I'll order another P5E-VM HDMI and send this one for repairs...





Tremeloes said:
Just did the Vdroop mod. Looks good: Bios 1,5 V -> Idle 1,48 V ->Load 1,47 V.
Raised my max. stable FSB with 1.5V from 370 to 380. And it looks like the restart bug is gone.
@ Allsop
you did the Vdroop Mod, too. Do you have the restart bug?
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I'm having problems with my onboard LAN. It was working fine last week and then I reinstalled Vista to set up my Matrix RAID and I couldn't connect to any BF2142 servers. Took me awhile to figure out as I could surf the net and net speeds were good. Popped in a spare SMC 10/100 NIC and I can connect to servers now. Curious to see if anyone else has any problems with the onboard LAN. I even tried reverting back to older drivers from Asus website.
 
the only problem i had was the restart bug and this seems to be gone since the Vdroop mod. Made about 15 restarts now without any freezes.
 
A reviewer at anand said a lot of bad things about eliminating vdroop link

About the reboot issue, my old MSI G33 board did the same thing, I forget where I read about this issue, but it's normal behavior.
 
I don't know if someone already mentioned this or not but Zalman CNPS7700-Cu fits this board. One of my colleague let me borrow his Pentium D till Q9450 comes out which I will get so I've decided to put it on and it fits. Downside is that you have to mod back plate little bit. You have to trim one side of the plate so it doesn't touch solder. Also, people who have OCed with this board can you provide How-to on this board? I've OCed my brothers IP35-E and it was so easy(not much option) but this board has so much option. I'm not sure what to enable/disable or bump up. Thanks
 
That message about the CPU fan, when booting, is annoying. I don't have a CPU fan to connect to it. Both of my front 120mm fans are connected to the available 3-pin fan headers. Is there anything useful (besides a fan) I can connect to that 4-pin PWM fan header that will stop this message from appearing?

Is there an option in the BIOS somewhere to disable this message?

Also, I replaced the stock SB heatsink with an Enzotech SNB-S1L ( http://www.enzotechnology.com/cnb_s1l.htm ) and the stock NB heatsink with a Thermalright HR-05 SLI (the non-IFX model). Surprisingly, the HR-05 doesn't block the PCIe 16x slot. Got everything working just fine. Forgot to double check the backplane before putting everything in and the little tabs for the ethernet port were stuck in front of the ethernet port blocking it so I had to bend them with pliers and push them up and in so they're where they're supposed to be.
 
I could, but would they run at different speeds since one would be plugged into a PWM fan header and the other in a standard 3-pin fan header?
 
Ok, no need to plug something into that header. You can get rid of that message by disabling CPU fan monitoring.
 
IsLNdbOi said:
That message about the CPU fan, when booting, is annoying. I don't have a CPU fan to connect to it. Both of my front 120mm fans are connected to the available 3-pin fan headers. Is there anything useful (besides a fan) I can connect to that 4-pin PWM fan header that will stop this message from appearing?

Is there an option in the BIOS somewhere to disable this message?
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Bios - Hardware Monitor - set cpu fan speed to "ignore"
 
Looks like every new hardware has its set of problems ... and Overclockers UK is out of stock - again ... soon we have 2008 and where is the supply ? and when is the 45nm version of the quad core coming out ? Is Asus working on a new BIOS version ? Has anyone found the reason for the noise on the onboard sound ?

Is GeForce 8800 GT still the best choice in regards to bang for bucks ?
Is Nvidia really working on the 9000 series ?

Are 2GB DDR2 modules the biggest we get so far ? No 4 or 8 GB modules yet ?
The iPod Nano comes with 8GB memory ... smaller than a match box.
No way to make Windows XP 32bit recognize more than 3 GB ?
64bit version still not recommended because of incompatibility ?
How much memory can the 64bit version address ?
What are the PC game developer going to do if the next generation games require more RAM ?

Will USB 3.0 really be so much faster than USB 2.0 ?

When are Solid State Drives going to replace our hard drives ? 2008 ? 2009 ? 2010 ?
When I checked recently, the Samsung 64 GB drive cost £567.51 ! Are they crazy ?
The WD 500 GB I have chosen cost only £65.- ...

Another problem: the PC cases I am considering getting are all designed that way that the PS is located above the CPU ... so the choice of a 3rd party CPU cooler is a real problem. Why are the PC case designer so ignorant ? Do I have to do everything by myself ?

I know I'm slightly off topic here, but c'mon ... do I really have to start a new threat ?
Gosh, so many questions ... but if you answer one of them please, that would be fine ... honestly :eek:
 
Yes, its off topic and considering the amount of questions you threw up there it should have its own thread/s. I will answer one though. IMO the 8800GT is the best bang for buck card until the next set come out in Q1 2008. Just my opinion though. :D
 
I'm having problems installing drivers for the onboard audio. After installing Windows XP SP2, I installed the chipset drivers (downloaded from Intel's site), then the latest ethernet driver from Asus's site. Once those were installed, I went to Microsoft's site and downloaded all available updates for XP. Once all Windows updates were installed, I installed my video card drivers then the HD Audio drivers (v R1.84) downloaded directly from Realtek's site

Audio is working, but everytime I start Windows, I get that popup from the taskbar about new hardware. I checked device manager and there are two of these:

"Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus"

One of them turned into "Microsoft UAA Bus Driver for High Definition Audio" after letting Windows search and update for a driver for it. The second one is still there with a yellow question mark.

I've right clicked on it and selected "Update Driver". I let it search Windows Update and let it install the software automatically. Nothing works. Windows can't find the driver for this. I've tried uninstalling the Realtek driver and removing the audio stuff from Device Manager. After Windows reinstalls the stuff, it still can't find a driver for this second "Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus".

Have any of you experienced this with your P5E-VM HDMIs?
 
Hi Guys,
I have a P5E-VM HDMI board I am building for my htpc and I just put it all together and it will not post? Any ideas? Here's my gear:
nsk2480 case
Q6600-G0
Mini Ninja
2 X 1G OCZ Platinium Rev. R
80 GB Western Digital SATA
Samsung SATA DVD drive

So when I power it on, the green light on the mobo is lit..... but nothing happens - just a black screen on my monitor and I am getting no "beeps"

TIA
 
Sure your RAM is all the way in? What about the 4-pin power connector on the motherboard?
 
How many ports does you video card have? Have you tried plugging the monitor into each of the card's ports? Have you tried powering up with just the bare minimum (1 stick of RAM, processor) and plugging the monitor into the motherboard's onboard video?
 
IsLNdbOi said:
How many ports does you video card have? Have you tried plugging the monitor into each of the card's ports? Have you tried powering up with just the bare minimum (1 stick of RAM, processor) and plugging the monitor into the motherboard's onboard video?
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Right now I don't have a vid card - I am using the onboard video,
Tried with just one stick of RAM and still nothing.....
 
You're using the stock 380 watt power supply? Does the CPU fan even spin up? Are you sure you have the power button panel connector properly connected to the header? Manually use a small screwdriver to jump the power pins on the motherboard to make sure your power switch isn't malfunctioning or hooked up wrong.
 
Ok, that second listing of "Audio Device on High Definition Audio Bus" turned out to be the Intel HDMI audio. The Intel chipset driver from Intel's site does not install the driver for this. You have to download the G35's graphics driver (the one in a zip file) and the HDMI audio driver is in there.
 
MassiveOverkill said:
You're using the stock 380 watt power supply? Does the CPU fan even spin up? Are you sure you have the power button panel connector properly connected to the header? Manually use a small screwdriver to jump the power pins on the motherboard to make sure your power switch isn't malfunctioning or hooked up wrong.
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Yes, Stock 380 watt power supply.
The connectors are all fine. The CPU fan and the case fans spin up and also there is a signal from the HDMI and VGA ports < I can see this becasue when I unplug the cable for video my monitor complains.

I have tried with just one stick of RAM (alternating modules) and have even pulled off heatsink and reseated the cpu. (everything looked fine)

This is such a bummer man - my first new build in 4 years and I have to RMA the mobo - damn!!!

Does anyone know what the results of of a power up should look like with no/bad ram? .... just a black screen like I am getting? Should I try new RAM before taking it back?

TIA
 
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