Asus and Razer Want To Make a "Gaming" Smartphone with Tencent

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  1. AlphaAtlas

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    A recent report from the Taiwanese news site Digitimes claims that Razer and Asustek are both in talks with the Chinese gaming giant Tencent over the release of a "gaming smartphone that supports Tencent's games." Asus's recently released ZenFone Max Pro is reportedly the last "consumer" smartphones the company will make, and that a higher end ZenFone "for power users" is expected to come mid 2019. In related news, Digitimes claims that TSMC is about to start manufacturing the 7nm Qualcomm Snapdragon 855 processors that will likely power these higher end (and higher margin) smartphones.

    Asustek and Razer both declined to comment... Asustek is set to release a new ZenFone prior to mid-2019 for power users and is also looking to form partnership with Tencent for the ROG-brand gaming smartphone, the sources said. Asustek's new ROG smartphone is expected to come with Qualcomm's Snapdragon 855 processor and priced at CNY5,000 (US$741) for the smartphone itself and CNY12,000 for the whole set. The smartphone's high gross margin will have a chance of helping Asustek's handset business turn profitable, the sources noted. Razer reportedly also contacted Tencent with a similar plan for its gaming Razer Phone 2, but Tencent so far has not yet made a decision on which it will cooperate with.
     
  2. ole-m

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    I am a bit curious, who buys these ?

    I haven't seen one at all yet..
     
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    In most of China mobile gaming makes up like 80% of the gaming market and a likewise amount of the revenue they could put this out in China and not be able to make it fast enough to cover demand.. 620 Million people in China play and collectively spend upwards of 40 Billion, they are the people who will buy this phone and no outside of Asia you are unlikely to ever see it.
     
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    I certainly have no interest, but young children seem.to prefer app gaming like Temple Run, Flappy or Angry Birds on tablets.

    Only game I've ever had on any phone I've ever owned was Scrabble/Words With Friends.
     
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    I understand mobile gaming, the better games made for mobile are remarkably similar to the games I grew up with. They're just gameplay and not much else, catchy and tough like old Atari, Nintendo and C64 stuff. Too bad the vast majority of them are god awful grinds made with emptying your wallet at the centre of the design philosophy.

    I get the idea of making phones for gaming, I guess. I seriously love using a "smart" phone with a high refresh.

    They're almost as good as a flip phone.
     
  7. ole-m

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    I see 2-6 year olds with tablets, then they move on to switch and then pc here.
    Their mobile is something parents give to them to call them, somehow it's gone back to what they were designed for haha!
     
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    IT BETTER HAVE RGB!!!
     
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    With all the Chinese spying built-in with hardware acceleration!
     
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    A multi-billion-dollar Chinese holdings company.
     
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    I'll admit they have tempted me, but for different reasons. I don't game on my phone and couldn't care less about that aspect. However I do like some of the interesting designs that aren't boring and tend to be a bit more rugged. Fortunately Kyocera put out a really nice ruggedized phone for not terribly expensive while I was still shopping, so I went with that.
     
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    Huh,

    I didn't even realize Kyocera made phones anymore. Haven't seen them in a long time.
     
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    Yeah their duraforce pro 2 is pretty nice, especially for a mere $450. Water proof, dust proof, has a better quality Sapphire glass on screen and camera than the iPhone, headphone jack and user serviceable. A couple user programmable keys and even without an OtterBox is really damn durable. There are a couple things I dislike about it, but for its price and features it is honestly tough to beat.
     
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    So soon the console gamers will be getting dumbed down and upscaled mobile phone games... serves them right.

    But then we'll get those same mobile phone games upscaled again for PCs... oh crap.
     
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    Now, I don't game on my phone, so it's obviously not targeted at me, but some thoughts:

    • Does it have Pie yet?
    • How often does it get security updates? Asus wasn't that great at this when I last had one of their phones (Zenfone 2)
    • It seems a little large and bulky
    • Seems a little pricy to me, but then again all phones seem to have gone off the deep end when it comes to pricing in the last few years.
    • I'm really not a fan of the RGB ROG logo
    • What's the battery life like?
    Other than that, it seems like a pretty capable device.

    And yeah, I'm with you. They only just launched this, it seems odd for Asus to already be going after another gaming phone.
     
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    Tencent owns a LOT of gaming entities in China, they are basically China's EA, Facebook, Youtube, and Twitch, they have their own gaming console, are the Chinese publisher for PUGB, they own the guys who do League of Legends, they are also China's largest Music Entertainment company. They do everything entertainment related to the tune of 300 Billion a year in profits....
     
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    If they get in with Tencent they are made with that product, Tencent has their own console, so this would be the equivalent of them going to MS, Sony, or Nintendo and saying "We want to build a phone that runs your games". To put it into perspective they have sold more consoles this generation than Sony and Microsoft combined and their profit margins is the same Sony made ~10 B, Microsoft ~9B, Tencent just shy of 20B.
     
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    As fun as that idea sounds in China mobile gaming makes 10x more than PC and console gaming, they don't bother even porting the titles. You want it you buy it for the phone, full stop.
     
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    and they also have their fingers in Epic
     
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    the last asus phone i had was a piece of trash.

    not going through that again.
     
  26. Fresch

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    Ten cent is 1/5 of fitycent
    How about a phone that gets updates, replaceable battery, open source, inexpensive.