Axman
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LTT video title next week:
With a 40-minute follow-up sermon from Tech Jesus that could be summed up with "It doesn't."
LTT video title next week:
Top of the list was "Water based lubricant".
IgorsLab indeed warned against using any of these long-term, but said there can be a specific scenario where one makes sense. He tested the lubricant for up to a work day (8 hours) and it was fine. Mind that it is electrically conductive and take precautions. The gearbox oil has been tested for a few weeks. For a temporary benchmark build, or while you are waiting for your order of TIM to arrive, they will probably be ok.They didn't test long term.
Definitely would not use anything water-based in my PC that isn't contained. I'd be interested to see what the CPU looks like with the gearbox oil after weeks of use. I bet it's going to look and smell amazing.IgorsLab indeed warned against using any of these long-term, but said there can be a specific scenario where one makes sense. He tested the lubricant for up to a work day (8 hours) and it was fine. Mind that it is electrically conductive and take precautions. The gearbox oil has been tested for a few weeks. For a temporary benchmark build, or while you are waiting for your order of TIM to arrive, they will probably be ok.
Not sure about that. I've been using MX4 for a while, and I recently rebuilt my spare computer and it was brittle flakes. I think I pasted it 4 years ago. I thought it would last longer.MX3 and MX4 are both good. MX3 is very greasyy. The good thing is those thermal paste last very long. Means if you get off the heatspreader in 10 years from now, you will get still greasy paste not some solid stuff as with other thermal pastes, including arctic silver.
had a chance to test it today, room temp is 2c higher than the above tests. so a slight improvement. putting it in a 2013 mac pro next....fresh AS5:
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vs fresh mx-4:
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if/when i get some mx5 ill compare it too.
ps: those are 45min into the test, it counts down from 60min. on a i5-2400 with stock dell heatsink.
no prob!. yeah the 8 year claim is gonna be a hard, or long, one to prove. most dont have systems that long and the ones ive used it on will age out or die long before then.Thanks for the reports Pen.
That sounds pretty solid, as MX-4 was actually a really nice goop on it's own. Improvements are cool - assuming it still has that longevity I loved about MX-4 (STILL have an overclocked 3700 running it just fine). Not sure how to verify that yet.
<eyebrow> Go on...a hard, or long, one
so hows the mx5 working for you?Just built a new system about 2 weeks ago, used an IC Graphite pad. Couldn't be happier. Rated at 35W/m-k, which is more than triple what the high performance pastes are rated at. Arctic silver 4 is rated at 8.5W/m-k, the other Arctic Silvers were all less than 9 iirc. The liquid metals are rated 36 to 38W/m-k but are a huge pain in the ass, incompatible with copper or aluminum, conductive, and need reapplied annually (fuck that). The IC Graphite pads are also conductive, so it isn't surprising that the performance rivals the liquid metals. Compared to normal compounds, this pad has been very impressive.
i9-10900x air cooled with a Noctua nh-d15s (single fan), prime95, temp settles at 62C. Going to mount a second fan soon as I get the parts.
Probably some reviews someplace, you all owe it to yourselves to check it out.
thats nice but off topic.Yeah, the IC Graphite Pad is where it's at. I'm getting 32C idle temps on my 4790K, which is great.
Under load it does go higher, 65C while playing Cyberpunk and absolute highest temp I saw was 80C but that was doing a burn test.
So not the most amazing temps in the world, but more than good enough for what it is. It will last forever, you can reuse without a mess, and you never have to worry.
That build I replaced the HSF and the MX-4 had dried to flakes (only after 4 years). With the Graphite Pads, you set it and forget it. Great investment, don't think I will use paste ever again.
I can't say I've ever heard of Arctic paste being dried to flakes before. I don't have any long term experience with MX-4 as I only got it a couple years ago but I've had multiple applications of MX-2 last 5+ years and the reason for having checked the paste had nothing to do with the paste. The paste also looked like it had been applied yesterday.Yeah, the IC Graphite Pad is where it's at. I'm getting 32C idle temps on my 4790K, which is great.
Under load it does go higher, 65C while playing Cyberpunk and absolute highest temp I saw was 80C but that was doing a burn test.
So not the most amazing temps in the world, but more than good enough for what it is. It will last forever, you can reuse without a mess, and you never have to worry.
That build I replaced the HSF and the MX-4 had dried to flakes (only after 4 years). With the Graphite Pads, you set it and forget it. Great investment, don't think I will use paste ever again.
Just built a new system about 2 weeks ago, used an IC Graphite pad. Couldn't be happier. Rated at 35W/m-k, which is more than triple what the high performance pastes are rated at. Arctic silver 4 is rated at 8.5W/m-k, the other Arctic Silvers were all less than 9 iirc. The liquid metals are rated 36 to 38W/m-k but are a huge pain in the ass, incompatible with copper or aluminum, conductive, and need reapplied annually (fuck that). The IC Graphite pads are also conductive, so it isn't surprising that the performance rivals the liquid metals. Compared to normal compounds, this pad has been very impressive.
i9-10900x air cooled with a Noctua nh-d15s (single fan), prime95, temp settles at 62C. Going to mount a second fan soon as I get the parts.
Probably some reviews someplace, you all owe it to yourselves to check it out.
their w/mk numbers are way out of wack i think they are using the numbers from the raw elements used not when its made into a pad or paste.The IC pads are *terrible* if you're overclocking. They are 6C worse than MX-5 on a nice flat (clear imprint so good mounting pressure) r9 290X video card, and more than 10C worse (reached 100C so that was it) on an overclocked 9900k vs Kryonaut (using an old Venomous-X heatsink). They are good for stock mount and forget systems but that's ALL they are good for.
They would probably only reach their w/mk rating on the *Z Axis* by extremely high (>50 PSI) mounting pressure and you aren't getting that.
their w/mk numbers are way out of wack i think they are using the numbers from the raw elements used not when its made into a pad or paste.
Yes. In fact MX3 is already good at staying stable without drying out. It's only very greasy compared to MX4. Cleaning from MX3 is a real pain. Not sure there is big difference on every the other side.Sorry, I just double checked and it was Arctic MX-2 I used, and it was 5 years ago. In any case, it was all dried and flaky.
30's idle, 62C all cores at 100%. These pads are really not that bad.The IC pads are *terrible* if you're overclocking. They are 6C worse than MX-5 on a nice flat (clear imprint so good mounting pressure) r9 290X video card, and more than 10C worse (reached 100C so that was it) on an overclocked 9900k vs Kryonaut (using an old Venomous-X heatsink). They are good for stock mount and forget systems but that's ALL they are good for.
They would probably only reach their w/mk rating on the *Z Axis* by extremely high (>50 PSI) mounting pressure and you aren't getting that.
Ever mess about with that Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme?Necroing due to an update by TH - after just 18 months or so of release, MX-5 is soon to be replaced by MX-6
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/arctic-mx-6-thermal-grease-set-to-launch
Yeah I forget how long ago now, but MX-5 quickly went on the EOL list. I had used it earlier this year in my new rig build, so going to have to find something else now I guess for when it's time to repaste.Necroing due to an update by TH - after just 18 months or so of release, MX-5 is soon to be replaced by MX-6
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/arctic-mx-6-thermal-grease-set-to-launch
I haven't tried the Extreme version, but I did try regular Kryonaut a few years back and it didn't last very long before temps started shooting up again. Maybe 6+ months. It was also pretty expensive for how much you get. Definitely was not a long term use paste.Ever mess about with that Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme?