Apple's Enormous Year Finally Starts On Monday

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Tomorrow the WWDC kicks off in San Francisco marking what Apple executives believe will be the company’s biggest product period of the last 25 years. Apple must have something really big up their sleeve to feel this confident, but so far they haven’t been forthcoming with any information. That will all change this week, beginning on Monday.

Remember, Apple released the iPhone and the iPad in the past 25 years. Whatever it has in development is supposedly going to be better than those products. So, the pressure is now on for Apple to deliver.
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Stuff that's been rumored about thus far: iWatch, 12"+ screen iPad, retina screen MBAs, side by side apps on the iPad, bigger iPhones. Unless Apple has been keeping secrets better than they have the last few years there doesn't seem to be anything mind blowing on the way but if all or most of the stuff on list comes out it would still be pretty big.
 
Their game-changing announcement will be homescreen widgets in iOS 8.
 
iGlass, the innovative new product that is totally not a rip-off of Google glass. Ours is white.
 
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
 
kent said:
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
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This makes my head hurt.

I say its a VR device that makes you believe your Steve Jobs. I mean seriously admit it, all those Apple fans and the new CEO have been waiting for this moment for ages.
 
Not a big apple fan, but I am curious...
 
I wouldnt mind an iWatch or something of that sort. I am looking to get a smart watch this summer and the market needs good competition.
 
kent said:
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
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Not Apple, .... yet
Just slap the apple logo on an existing technology and it becomes innovative, right? ;)
Apple doesn't innovate technology, they just innovate design of existing technology by making it look different. I don't want to be facetious. It is what they do and do a good job at it. And yes, no one else does it. Infact true innovators don't always make much money anyways.

Eh, we'll find out I guess after all. The moment of truth begins...
 
kent said:
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
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Elon Musk.

Space X
Tesla Motors
Pay Pal


:)
 
xLokiX said:
iGlass, the innovative new product that is totally not a rip-off of Google glass. Ours is white.
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This is what cracks me up about the people crying about Google Glass. Every company is quietly working on its own version.
 
kent said:
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
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So let me make sure I understand... it's Dells fault that fool heardy "educators" got swept up in the "tablet mania"? Spend hundreds of thousands of dollars (millions if you go national) on tablets that are easily stolen, easily broken, and have provided no real bonus to students.

And we wonder why kids these days keep getting dumber and dumber.

books, Pencil, paper, and good parents. That's all you need to get a core level of useful knowledge into minds. Of course that would require effort, thought, and care... and what parent has time for that these days? Just put a tablet in front of them and go back to shopping on ebay or setting up your next swing party.
 
I have a feeling that what Apple really means is that they will be releasing more products this fiscal year than they have in the same span of time in the last 25 years.

I.E. they're just expanding their product base.

It wouldn't be hard to do.

3 iPad versions (mini, normal, mega)
3 iPhone versions (junk, normal, large)
4 laptops (air, small MBP, medium MBP, large MBP)
1+ Mac Pro
3+ Beats products (headphones, earphones, speakers)

If they did that all within a single year, even if it's just refreshes, that would be more products released than ever.
 
Theres also speculation that apple will go into mobile payments using touchID, which could be huge for them. Rumors that the apple tv will either stream tv channels or become a cable box sold through comcast. Apple tv will have expanded gaming capabilities.
 
WWDC is not about product releases. You guys are all barking up the wrong tree. There might be a hardware announcement, like a Mac Mini update with Haswell, but it won't be the focus of the keynote or the weeklong event.
 
kent said:
All you dopes can make jokes but who else from the past 25 years is still innovating?

Not Microsoft. Adding back in the start button.
Not Dell. Dropped by educational institutions in favor of iPads.
Not Samsung. Plastic fantastic phones.
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Can't tell if you are serious, but this hurt to read.

I still think the big announcement is their new media software they want included in shook devices, from cars to tv's.
 
I'm really hoping the rumors of a 24/96 iTunes service are true. Others like HDTracks already exist, but if Apple jumped on board, the albums available would increase tenfold. Rumors are the Led Zeppelin remasters would launch on "iTunes HD", to coincide with their general release.
 
Really though, 100% sure the typical words will be used.

12 inch screen, 10 nanometers thinner, 1000 milli ounces lighter.

"amazing"
 
Parmenides said:
Not Apple, .... yet
Just slap the apple logo on an existing technology and it becomes innovative, right? ;)
Apple doesn't innovate technology, they just innovate design of existing technology by making it look different. I don't want to be facetious. It is what they do and do a good job at it. And yes, no one else does it. Infact true innovators don't always make much money anyways.

Eh, we'll find out I guess after all. The moment of truth begins...
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Realistically, this is all Apple really has done. Taken an under utilized device and made it popular through marketing. They didn't invent the MP3 player but made it trendy through the iPod. They didn't invent the ultrabook or netbook but made it trendy through the MacBook Air.

The catch this time, however, is that there is practically nothing they can reveal now without it looking like a me-too! device. Too many other brands and products have gotten recognition in the time that Apple sat on their laurels and let the market leave them in the dust.

iWatch? Been done.

Stylus on iPad? Been done.

Streaming? They had to buy it out from someone else. Been done.

Automotive? Been done.

TV? Been done.

Home automation? Been done.

They're simply too late to the game to do any of the above without making it look like they're playing catch-up to everyone else. ALL of the above has been done in the past year or two and was a defining characteristic of the brand. Stylus for Samsung, Pebble watches and Moto 360. Nest and Pandora, Slacker, et al...

Anything else they could do, it would be a big case of "too little, too late" for most folks... Larger screens on iPhone, for example. They'll still look like they're following the market instead of leading it. Which they are.
 
dr.kevin said:
Really though, 100% sure the typical words will be used.

12 inch screen, 10 nanometers thinner, 1000 milli ounces lighter.

"amazing"
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You forgot "magical" and "invented". :D
 
Easy to figure out since watches and bigger iphones aren't going to be bigger than anything in the past 25 years..

iDong - Must have for any apple fan, carefully crafted in the likeness of Steve jobs.
 
techrat said:
Realistically, this is all Apple really has done. Taken an under utilized device and made it popular through marketing. They didn't invent the MP3 player but made it trendy through the iPod. They didn't invent the ultrabook or netbook but made it trendy through the MacBook Air.

The catch this time, however, is that there is practically nothing they can reveal now without it looking like a me-too! device. Too many other brands and products have gotten recognition in the time that Apple sat on their laurels and let the market leave them in the dust.

iWatch? Been done.

Stylus on iPad? Been done.

Streaming? They had to buy it out from someone else. Been done.

Automotive? Been done.

TV? Been done.

Home automation? Been done.

They're simply too late to the game to do any of the above without making it look like they're playing catch-up to everyone else. ALL of the above has been done in the past year or two and was a defining characteristic of the brand. Stylus for Samsung, Pebble watches and Moto 360. Nest and Pandora, Slacker, et al...

Anything else they could do, it would be a big case of "too little, too late" for most folks... Larger screens on iPhone, for example. They'll still look like they're following the market instead of leading it. Which they are.
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But have they been done in white? :p
 
techrat said:
Realistically, this is all Apple really has done. Taken an under utilized device and made it popular through marketing. They didn't invent the MP3 player but made it trendy through the iPod. They didn't invent the ultrabook or netbook but made it trendy through the MacBook Air.
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I find it interesting that you describe Apple's efforts as "made it trendy" rather than "made it useable and practical for the average person." Because that's actually what they do.
 
Terpfen said:
I find it interesting that you describe Apple's efforts as "made it trendy" rather than "made it useable and practical for the average person." Because that's actually what they do.
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Majority of what they released were already practical and usable for the average person beforehand. It took a liberal sprinkling of hyperbole before people would buy the product and use it.

Case in point, Apple got sued for ripping off Creative. Apple settled. What was it about? Apple ripped off Creative's Nomad MP3 player UI. Yep. Apple's innovative and intuitive UI wasn't even their own to begin with.

When the iPod first came out, the software for Windows was shit (MusicMatch Jukebox). Creative's software was much better. Now that they require iTunes for iPod, one could argue that it only got worse.

Palm's UI was extremely accessible and friendly before iOS was ever in production. A lot of people had PDAs. Handspring combined the PDA with the Phone and Palm continued it via the Treo.

People really do give Apple too much credit. Most of the time they just give a product a fresh coat of paint before taking credit for it.
 
Maybe a lot of people in YOUR world had PDA's, but no one I went to school with had a PDA. Last I checked, teens seem to be a huge group that buys new cellphones all the time. It was around the time the iPod Touch and iPhone came out that I remember everyone starting to want one with a touch screen. You need to think of the masses, not the small groups of tech geeks.
 
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Anyways.

The term smartphone before 2007 was nonexistent. It was for a focused group of people with small adoption rates.

Mp3 players before apple were expensive and somewhat clunky to use. Heck I laughed and thought mp3 players including the ipod were a hassle and that my panasonic cd player was amazingly modern and mature tech.

It's one thing to create something for a select group of people, but its truly another to help its adoption rate and maturation

Most people like seem to forget the number of Options available to us these days from playing candycrush, to skyping your loved one on the go, taking notes in classrooms, diagnosing medical emergencies on the go came from a simple idea that was transformed for use by the masses by one company. They have stumbled, but android os refreshes, windows 8 phone software etc etc goes on due to apple popularizing something only meant for a few. Without apple there is no droid, no w8,

End result we as consumers get more options: yay
 
techrat said:
Majority of what they released were already practical and usable for the average person beforehand.
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No, they really weren't. Take the iPod, for example. Good luck teaching people how to use a Creative Nomad, or a Rio PMP 300. Hell, good luck convincing people they were actually worth carrying around. One looked like a CD player, the other looked like a tiny cassette player—the accompanying crap interfaces, and even worse software support. Let's not even begin to point out that these devices did not offer a way for people to obtain music—they had to buy the CD and figure out how to rip it themselves. The experience from beginning to end was total garbage.

Your shortsightedness has good company.
 
I feel like a tool of the hype train just for reading this thread.
 
Terpfen said:
No, they really weren't. Take the iPod, for example. Good luck teaching people how to use a Creative Nomad, or a Rio PMP 300. Hell, good luck convincing people they were actually worth carrying around. One looked like a CD player, the other looked like a tiny cassette player—the accompanying crap interfaces, and even worse software support. Let's not even begin to point out that these devices did not offer a way for people to obtain music—they had to buy the CD and figure out how to rip it themselves. The experience from beginning to end was total garbage.

Your shortsightedness has good company.
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Again.

Apple ripped off Creative's UI.

http://www.macnews.com/content/apple-pays-creative-100-million-ipod-related-lawsuit

TFA said:
Creative had asserted that its ZEN Patent covered the user interface in Creative NOMAD and ZEN portable digital media players and the iPod, iPod nano and iPod mini. The investigation was based on a complaint filed by Creative Labs of Milpitas, California, and Creative Technology of Singapore on May 15, 2006.
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Pretty amazing how you'd describe the interface as crap considering Apple ripped it off wholesale... and then settled instead of fighting the lawsuit.
 
techrat said:
Again.

Apple ripped off Creative's UI.

http://www.macnews.com/content/apple-pays-creative-100-million-ipod-related-lawsuit



Pretty amazing how you'd describe the interface as crap considering Apple ripped it off wholesale... and then settled instead of fighting the lawsuit.
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From the article:

Michael Kroll, a Syosset, N.Y.-based patent attorney and engineer, called the one-time payment "nickels and dimes" for Apple, which has a market capitalization of $57.4 billion, reports the AP. "A settlement doesn't mean anyone's right or wrong. In general it's just the cheapest way to get on with life," Kroll said. "You do what's best at the time. I'm sure that's what Apple was thinking."
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techrat said:
Again.

Apple ripped off Creative's UI.

http://www.macnews.com/content/apple-pays-creative-100-million-ipod-related-lawsuit



Pretty amazing how you'd describe the interface as crap considering Apple ripped it off wholesale... and then settled instead of fighting the lawsuit.
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the hardware that one used to interact with the Creative UI (Creative Zen Mini 4GB user) was terrible. It was chunky and almost like a rock, the touchsensors was very finicky. I think the only thing I liked about the zen mini was the removable battery, price point, and the amazing material they used for the touch areas.

UI is half the battle. If the hardware isnt up to snuff, consumers will recognize the flaw pretty soon.
 
techrat said:
Again.

Apple ripped off Creative's UI.

http://www.macnews.com/content/apple-pays-creative-100-million-ipod-related-lawsuit



Pretty amazing how you'd describe the interface as crap considering Apple ripped it off wholesale... and then settled instead of fighting the lawsuit.
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I remember that lawsuit. Since Apple gets bashed for its slide to unlock patent, this was an instance of a bad patent being used against Apple. Miller columns (AKA column view in OS X), have been around for a long time and much earlier than the junk Creative was selling.
 
KENNYB said:
I remember that lawsuit. Since Apple gets bashed for its slide to unlock patent, this was an instance of a bad patent being used against Apple. Miller columns (AKA column view in OS X), have been around for a long time and much earlier than the junk Creative was selling.
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Junk. No bias there.
 
If it's the iWatch, they're out of their minds. The iWatch is not even close to being one of the biggest products in the last 25 years, compared to the Macbook Air, iPhone, etc.
 
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