Apple is Deleting Purchased Movies from iTunes

AlphaAtlas said:
In 2015, some slides detailing online DRM for UHD Blu-rays leaked out.

I don't think it was ever implemented (maybe due to the backlash?), but it's definitely something to look out. Physical media might not really be physical in the near future.
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If and when they force you to have a connection to the internet on your player, you will then know DRM is potentially in use, and they can take away your access to watch it at any time.
 
That's completely insane. As usual. The reason you purchase a movie is to watch it repeatedly. Giving you rental vouchers back is insulting because the entire point of the purchase was to NOT rent.

Give a refund Apple. Make it a policy going forward. Make it right.

Slimy move.
 
singe_101 said:
Like Sony CDs in about 2005? I think it crashed my laptop like a virus.
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It installed a rootkit and forced the CD to play a crappy WMA version instead of WAV. It was quite easy to circumvent, I actually called them up and complained. What a joke of a way to attempt to stop piracy to force legal owners to hear a crap version.
 
I buy the media and burn my collection to a Scale Out Storage Server at home. If the format ever becomes unavailable to read (Blu-ray readers go obsolete), its always available on my ever evolving storage system.
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
No different that paying for Netflix and then they remove the content you enjoy.
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Except Netflix never tells you you are buying any content. It's clear from the onset that you are subscribing to a service with rotating content.

Apple tells you you are buying the content. That assumes that you receive it for all future time.
 
This is why I buy all my music/tv/movies on hard copy, anyone who tries to take those back will receive my response at 1180 feet per second. (freedom seeds hurt at those speeds).
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
No different that paying for Netflix and then they remove the content you enjoy.
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That not even close to the same by any means, Keep in mind that he paid full retail price just like in got from store and if they pulling this kind of BS there going be a law suit and you beat that canada gov will get involved

pizzathehutt said:
This is why I buy all my music/tv/movies on hard copy, anyone who tries to take those back will receive my response at 1180 feet per second. (freedom seeds hurt at those speeds).
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Same here I have my own media server just because of this
 
Vader1975 said:
This has been a growing concern as I stopped buying hardcopy on bluray awhile back. I am considering reversing course.
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geok1ng said:
if i love a movie so much to buy it, i am certainly buying it physical and at the highest available quality
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Exactly. Amazon is close, Netflix is closer, but no one is streaming UHD Bluray Dolby Vision/Atmos quality.
 
pizzathehutt said:
This is why I buy all my music/tv/movies on hard copy, anyone who tries to take those back will receive my response at 1180 feet per second. (freedom seeds hurt at those speeds).
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Barf would approve. Spaceballs is classic.

Also anyone not mega encrypting anything they place in a cloud is just asking to have their data stolen. Never believe people any more than you have to.
 
Go digital they said..It will be fine they said...You know what can't happen to my physical copies? This..To those that don't see the problem, I really fail to see how you cannot see a problem. If I buy something, that means I want to keep it. I don't want to randomly lose access and in the case of some movies/games a refund of what I purchased it for still isn't acceptable. I shouldn't have the things I legally bought, taken away from me just because you lost your license to continue selling it.
 
I've switched to buying the combo packs. 4K HDR bluray + digital copy. I can watch the digital copy anywhere I have internet access and I can use the hard copy if I'm at home. Plus, gives me something in case the studios decide (for whatever reason) to turn the lights off on the digital copies' servers.

As much as I love the convenience of streaming, none of them match the bit depth along with Dolby Atmos/Vision that the hard copies are able to supply (... so far).
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Go digital they said..It will be fine they said...You know what can't happen to my physical copies? This..To those that don't see the problem, I really fail to see how you cannot see a problem. If I buy something, that means I want to keep it. I don't want to randomly lose access and in the case of some movies/games a refund of what I purchased it for still isn't acceptable. I shouldn't have the things I legally bought, taken away from me just because you lost your license to continue selling it.
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This is exactly the truth. It would not surprise me they looked into the possibility that people might get angry and possibly sue, except over a few movies it might not be worth it for customers to sue. It was a calculated risk, just like the calculated risk that huge trucks kill and create havoc on highways, just a cost of doing business.
 
gtrguy said:
Imagine if Steam was doing this- removing stuff from your library once they didn't sell it any more... how much would you love that??
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I vaguely remember a news article about Steam versions of one of the GTA games having a song or songs removed due to music rights licenses expiring.
I think that is wrong since you bought the game with a certain soundtrack. Rockstar couldn't sell copies after that with the song or songs included, but I can't remember if the songs were removed from your current install or if you had to reinstall the game the songs would be missing.
 
I view these services as rental, always have, even steam I view that way. I consider media to be a consumable not any different than a beer. You dont buy it to keep it you buy it to enjoy it while it lasts.

So when ever I buy something I simply say for this price am I willing to pay to get some entertainment out of it? If it all dissapears tomorrow I will just hop to the next platform.
 
rudy said:
I view these services as rental, always have, even steam I view that way. I consider media to be a consumable not any different than a beer. You dont buy it to keep it you buy it to enjoy it while it lasts.

So when ever I buy something I simply say for this price am I willing to pay to get some entertainment out of it? If it all dissapears tomorrow I will just hop to the next platform.
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Sorry but this is an utterly stupid viewpoint if you are paying full price for something. I'm glad you are apparently so wealthy that you can afford to piss away untold amounts of money and not give a damn. If it doesn't expressly state that I am renting something, I'm not renting it period.
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
No different that paying for Netflix and then they remove the content you enjoy.

Redbox is where I get the few movies I'll watch. I don't buy or movie theater them anymore.
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massively huge difference.
i dont pay nexflix with an expectation that i then own every single movie and episode of shows that they are delivering. thats a known going into it.

if i pay someone with the expectation that i am purchasing said item, there is an expectation that it is mine. not theirs to take away later down the road.
 
Was it on his device when they removed it or sitting in the cloud?
If it was in the cloud, could he have d/l it to his machine?
If you can d/l to your machine, would they have removed it from his computer/apple TV too?

I only buy disks, but if not for this, one good thing Apple does is automatically upgrades your purchase to the highest resolution version they have...but still not enough to get me to buy a file.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Sorry but this is an utterly stupid viewpoint if you are paying full price for something. I'm glad you are apparently so wealthy that you can afford to piss away untold amounts of money and not give a damn. If it doesn't expressly state that I am renting something, I'm not renting it period.
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I agree, but I'm pretty sure that there were cases of purchased music going away in the past. I'm not clear if this was a case of you can't download it anymore, but you could play it it was on your HD or no matter what it went away.

EIther way, Apple should refund the money and sue the studio for the money they got from the sale.
But as I and others have said, this is just another reason to stick to physical media....just make sure you rip it to your NAS, just in case there's a way to kill disks (plus the convenience is pretty nice).
 
Hehe,...welcome to the cloud. Where you really have no control over your own content.

Bluray is not safe either. Even if you own the disc, it can be disabled and not play back.

If I buy a Bluray )as long as it is not a Sony one), I make sure it comes with a DVD (as long as it is not a Sony one) version as well.
 
Sikkyu said:
apple is run by fucks
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Well idiots too. If they'd paid the guy off they could silently sweep this under the rug. Now it's news so they saved $50 in order to lose hundreds of thousands more. Thank you idiots for your public service.
 
That_Sound_Guy said:
No different that paying for Netflix and then they remove the content you enjoy.
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The two couldn't be more different. Netflix is a subscription service that entitles you to watch whatever content they offer at a given time. You don't purchase individual items and there is no implied ownership of anything Netflix has to offer. If you don't like the content they offer and/or something you did like gets removed, you deal with it or you cancel your subscription, but you have no right to view any piece of content for eternity because you paid a monthly fee at some point.

iTunes sells individual pieces of content. Ownership of that content is implied, even if that's not the reality. You are purchasing an item, it should be yours forever.
 
Viper87227 said:
You can't. It's the reason movies are the only thing I still buy physical copies of. If there was a download service that offered DRM free movies at disc quality, they would get a lot if my money.
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well....

:ROFLMAO:

seriously that is a great idea if you could ever get studios on board....which you likely won't
 
Viper87227 said:
I know that studios would never be on board. It's a shame though.
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Of course they won't be on board. Anyone in this thread bitching about Apple's part in this wasn't alive before Apple's part in this. Because back then, before Apple used its massive userbase to shift the market to streaming products while getting the content license owners on board, people were going to prison and bankrupt for file sharing. People may not like what it's become now, but it was the dark ages back then...very dark.
 
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