Apple Finally Snares The Beatles Catalog?

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  1. Zarathustra[H]

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    I agree with your distaste for much of the modern crap music. I just don't think the Beatles era is ideal for comparison either.


    These days artists are chosen for their pretty faces (if not their boobs). They are usually marginal singers. Songwriting is done by contract by someone else, and they correct for the poor singing by using autotune-like pitch correcting methods and heavy over-audio engineering with digital waveform editing to correct for the time (if the tracks aren't laid down on trackers to begin with)

    They didn't have any of this during the Beatles time. The Beatles often sound out of tune and uncohesive, but this is likely due to their lack of this extra production technology we have today. What the Beatles did do - however - was really revolutionize the pop song structure and write some damned catchy choruses. This is something music still benefits from today. While I recognize and appreciate this, it doesn't mean I have to like their original recordings.

    What's really impressive (at least to me) are the many late 70s through late 80s bands that are damned near pitch perfect and in time during a period when autotune and trackers didn't exist. Freddie Mercury of Queen and Morrisey of the Smiths (to name two examples) could really sing, and well! This just happens to be the type of music I listen to the most.
     
  2. Adam

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    So looks like this was the "official" announcement now... big wooop. Ive had the beatles for months now. I just got it from someone OTHER then apple. Just cause you own an iphone/ipod doesnt mean you have to buy your music FROM them
     
  3. Aaron Harmon

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    Not true, how could they get it before Apple brought it out. This is 100% new technology that will revolutionize they way you listen to music!
     
  4. number69

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    I'll break this down simply and won't get into every detail on why the Beatles were geniuses. Either you get it or you don't.

    The Beatles have stood the test of time and their music has been passed down from generation to generation because they wrote great music. They changed many things in pop culture and influenced many bands/musicians in their day and today. You don't stick around that long and have that much influence because of marketing. There's a massive amount of talent involved when it comes to the Beatles. If you don't hear it, don't want to hear it, that's fine but to say they suck is insane. Name one band today that has 1/10 the songwriting talent or influence they had. The Beatles transcended pop music, you couldn't fit them neatly into any category, especially from 1966 on.

    Maybe the current assholes in the music scene depend on massive marketing, back in their day The Beatles didn't have that. Yes they sold cups, cards, posters, figures, etc...but in no way did they have the massive marketing machine or technology behind them from day one that the current talentless pop losers(who can't write their own songs or sing) have.


    Any idiot who compares them to modern day pop stars has their head up their ass. Oh and by the way, for the fool that said nobody under 25 knows who they are, you're wrong.
     
  5. Ryokurin

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  6. Ryokurin

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    Crap, ignore that. wrong thread.
     
  7. ShadowStriker

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    I love the Beatles, only some of their songs anyways. What I really wanna know is how come it costs way more for the electronic copy than buying the physical? And how much Apple paid for the catalog.
     
  8. rapid

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    my favourite song too
     
  9. Retronym

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  10. mopex

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    Why the hell are Katy Perry, Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber being referenced so much? Is everyone's knowledge of modern music really that limited on here? I hope you guys are at least familiar with Radiohead, Arcade Fire, Wilco and The White Stripes.
     
  11. russilker

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    I'm appalled by a lot of the hate for music going on here.

    Beleive it or not, there are days where I enjoy listening to rap as much as I enjoy listening to music. I know a lot of elderly people born in the 1920s and 30s who grew up listening to classical music, and had a particular distaste for the Beatles. Then people born in the 40s and 50s who grew up listening to Beatles, and now have a distaste for rap.

    Music changes. You grew up listening to one type of music, obviously something like rap would seem completely horrible to you (obviously there are exceptions, as I said, I am one who enjoys classical, Beatles, and rap equally). You can try to justify why rap is worse than classic rock but that won't get you anywhere, because I could justify why rap is fun to listen to just as much as any other genre (what genre I listen to all depends on what kind of mood I'm in)

    ..thats not to say that I dont agree that the majority of popular artists nowadays have no talent, thats unfortunately true. But rappers like 2pac and Eminem will be remembered as two of the top rappers of all time, whether you like it or not.

    Oh, and in case my age makes any difference, I'm 15. I know most of the Beatles songs by heart from listening to them since I was 8, and I know many eminem songs by heart from listening to them for the last 2 or 3 years.
     
  12. Retronym

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    Eww, Eww, Eww, Eww
     
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  14. mopex

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    I'm not interested in your opinions of these bands. My point is, they are a better representation of modern music. Mentioning a bunch of untalented, well-known pop artists and then concluding all modern music is garbage is completely lazy.
     
  15. krotch

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    I gave up on western music long ago. Certain genres simply never change, just the sound changes. The lyrics pretty much are the same thing over and over again. Other genres simply have incoherent lyrics.

    I listen to Japanese music. The music sounds nice and the lyrics flow nicely. It also helps that I can't understand the lyrics at all, so I really can't be mad that the lyrics probably tell the same story as a bajillion other songs or that they are incoherent.
     
  16. russilker

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    Thats what bothers me though. Claiming that some genres don't change or that lyrics are the same thing over and over is simply what it sounds like to you. Others easily differenciate between songs, and are able to enjoy them as well. Its all in the eye of the beholder. Its not like video cards, where the 5870 is better than the 5770; music is a purely interpretative subject, and cannot be compared in this way.
     
  17. Zarathustra[H]

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    Those four are not my style at all. In fact I really dislike most of the stuff that goes by the name "indie rock". That being said, I have tons more respect for them than I have the big label manufactured pop stars. At least those guys write and perform their own music...

    I heard some garbage named Tick Tock by Keysha or something on the radio the other day. I would have changed the radio station faster but I had to downshift to 2nd, signal left, slow down and turn first. Then I fumbled with the know on the radio...

    That song is completely vomit inducing, and the lyrics aren't even comprehensible. It's just a bunch of out of sequence cliche's stolen from other artists...
     
  18. number69

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    There's other good bands and music, nobody is debating that.
     
  19. krotch

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    Really, tell me what has changed with R&B from it's beginning to what is out now? It's pretty much "I love you, get with me" or "I hate that you cheated on me, I'm going to live strong and do other shit." There's other crap in there, but it's usually the something to do with love, a hot guy, a hot girl, I love myself, etc.

    Take some of the Beatles songs. What are they talking about in their songs? Look at current songs. What are they talking about in their songs? Sure the music sounds different, the lyrics have different words. All still tell the same story. Hence why I like songs I don't understand. Course if you look up the lyrics of a Japanese song, they end up with pretty much the same plot.

    Most songs are just a different way to tell the same story. No different than, say, a movie or a game. Yes, they can be entertaining. Just not entertaining to me anymore. Hence why I moved to songs I can't understand.
     
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    God I love people that know nothing about good hip-hop and rap. You people make me laugh so much.
     
  21. BladeVenom

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    Wow, Beatles fangirls are so touchy. I guess listening to an outdated boys band makes one a bit defensive.
     
  22. mopex

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    Outdated in what way exactly? I'm surprised anyone would describe them as being dated.
     
  23. bbf

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    Heh... I think DeathPrincess is confusing the "Monkeys" with the "Beatles". ;-)
     
  24. krotch

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    The Beatles were pop music. Also rock music though. A band can be multiple genres.
     
  25. Bootleg Usher

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    Sorry, when you say boys band you make me think of the backstreet boys or Nsnync. There are plenty of rock bands with all male members, in fact rock bands with a single woman are pretty rare. How exactly are the Beatles a "boy band" and the Rolling Stones are not? Or are they one too?
     
  26. krotch

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    Qualifications to be a boy band.

    1. Be a band.
    2. Be composed of boys.

    Pretty sure that's all there is to be one.
     
  27. LeninGHOLA

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    I'm probably the only one here that didn't need to google that. Does this make me sad or glad? I don't know.
     
  28. gamz247

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    The term "boy band" is a bit of a misnomer, as the groups that are commonly called boy bands (eg Backstreet Boys, New Kids on the Block, etc) don't actually play instruments and are often made up of men over the age of 18. I guess "man group" doesn't really roll off the tongue that well, though.

    Since the members of The Beatles were over the age of 18 at the height of their popularity, they don't fully meet your "criteria" for being a boy band.
     
  29. krotch

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    The Beatles started in their early teens. Boy band. What are they now? Man band? I mean, New Kids on the Block came out with more music recently, they still a boy band? How about Westlife?

    Backstreet Boys put out an album in 2009. Are they still a boy band? Sure, they are. Why? Cause in this case, boy doesn't refer to any specific age requirement. Such as when, like a 40 year old man is tinkering around with his 60s Corvette and his wife decides to say,"Boys and their toys."
     
  30. Mad Cat

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    No, you're not the only one. It's a good thing - there are a lot of talented and different bands that don't follow the beaten path that deserve more attention than they receive. Personally, I am a bit more partial to the like of Nightwish, Within Temptation, and Epica (concert on Friday! :D ) but they're all good in their own way.

    Now, my problem is that more than half or three quarters of the bands I listen to are from Europe or Australia - does this make me un-American? :confused:
     
  31. krotch

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    Isn't it an American trait to send our jobs out of the US? You just happen to jump the gun on entertainment and listen to Euro/Oz bands.
     
  32. eon

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    lol getting a little touchy in here
     
  33. satsunada

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    Does this mean I can finally get "Woman is the ++++++ of the world" by John Lennon?
     
  34. Bootleg Usher

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    So if I go to a music store and buy a Beatles CD, does itunes now get the money? Or is this announcement just about how itunes is selling the music in the itunes store?
     
  35. weuntouchable

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    Apple only has the rights to distribute the Beatles catalog through iTunes. They did not buy the Beatles catalog.
     
  36. number69

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    Answer is they're not. I have never heard that term used to describe the Beatles outside of a few clowns in this thread in a unsuccessful attempt to compare them to current crap.


    Wrong. They may have practiced together with different lineups(Stuart Sutcliffe, Pete Best) prior to becoming the Beatles we know, but the lineup(John, Paul, George and Ringo) that became famous and people give a shit and what were talking about here was formed in 1962.

    John was born in 1940, Paul in 1942, George in 1943, Ringo born 1940,

    Their first album was released in 1963.
     
  37. krotch

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    Yes, because you aren't a real band, unless you become famous.
     
  38. number69

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    With The Beatles or any band of that stature, yeah, being famous comes into play. Sorry if it wrecks your view on things but that's the way it is.

    So if they didn't become famous where does that leave you with your point? You still wouldn't have a point because nobody would have known them to have a discussion about them. The lineup that is world famous is famous because of the music they produced, starting in 1963.
     
  39. ShadowStriker

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    Anyone find it interesting that Apple now has the digital rights granted to them by Apple Corp for The Beatles catalog?
     
  40. KatalDT

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    Yeah, uhh, Yoko and Ono were the fifth and sixth, right?