DukenukemX
Supreme [H]ardness
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No one and everyone. Nobody buys these machines to game and yet lots of people do. Try not to think about it because Mac users certainly haven't.Who in their right mind specifically buys a MacBook, iMac, or Mac Pro for specifically for gaming?
Something those users would like you to think, but then why would they buy a machine that thermal throttles like mad? These are Mac users, which means they'll buy the gold plated edition just to use Photoshop. Apple products are more about the esthetic and prestige and not so much about function.These computers, and their user-base, are almost exclusively developers or video/audio/photo production and media content production professionals.
I've heard the same thing from Linux users and Linux wouldn't be where it is today if it wasn't for Valve. Gaming has been the main driving force of computer evolution for quiet some time. Do you really think the graphics card was invented for accelerating video editing and encoding? Gaming is such a big deal that people eventually found a use for 3D accelerators besides playing Quake 3 Arena and Doom. It's standard now for this very reason. Also more people had copies of Doom than Windows 95. True story.It amazes me that you apparently can't wrap your head around anyone else not doing what you do with a computer, aka, gaming.
How many people you think own an iPad and iPhone for productivity compared to gaming?
Don't tell that to Mac users.News flash, these aren't gaming computers,
I'm sure you'll get all the same games on iOS on these Macs. So technically gaming won't be dead if you enjoy playing mobile games. But nobody is going to go through the trouble to port Assassin's Creed Valhalla to ARM just for the very few ARM based Macs that exist.and just because they are shifting away from x86-64 to ARM doesn't mean gaming-in-general is dead on this platform - that is pure speculation on your part, not proven fact.
Some common sense and Steam dropped Mac like a hot potato. More than 95% of Steam users were using Windows and Linux so this move to ARM won't help.What is your source for saying "no developer will make games on these ARM based Macs"?
Oh of course, listening to Apple tell you how "brave" they are and how everyone is going to do it. I already predicted this would happen and I'm predicting it won't be an easy transition for Apple. If you have a x86 based Mac then hold onto it for a while because the value of these Macs are gonna sky rocket. There won't be any Boot Camp on these ARM based Macs, and users are gonna complain that their software either doesn't work or works very slowly. What will likely happen in that Apple will realize that people aren't gonna jump onto ARM that quickly and will make Intel based Macs for a very very long time. Maybe even make a Mac with both Intel and ARM CPU's to help with the transition. These ARM CPU's are costing Apple nothing compared to Intel so the incentive won't go away.From what I have seen thus far, especially in the 2020 keynote presentation, it is quite the opposite.
I've said before that ARM is the future, but that future won't be paved by Apple. Maybe Nvidia, AMD, but not Apple. Even then, I'd expect that ARM CPU's would need some layer of x86 compatibility if not to perform x86 applications equally as well, then at least not nearly that much worse. While Apple has poored millions into their ARM SOC's, but I doubt they have the engineering and experience to make CPU's that perform better than what Nvidia and AMD could do. At some point even Intel will jump onto ARM. As of right now there's no ARM based CPU with the IPC performance of x86, and I really doubt the first ARM that can do this will come from Apple.