Apparently Intel cherry picked the review samples for CoffeeLake.

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  1. N4CR

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    AMD has a more efficient CPU though but instead we bash them because muh GHz, it is a more LP orientated node. 7900x was only providing what 20% more perf with 2 extra cores and almost 3x the power of Zen. End of story. Intel is doing what AMD has done with their last few GPU releases.

    See what Zen2 brings. Their refresh early next year (12nm from memory) should bring another few hundred MHz, more ram compatibility and close that gap further before 7nm/Zen2 is out.
     
  2. IdiotInCharge

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    Because performance matters. Intel parts can run at higher frequencies with higher performance, or lower frequencies with lower performance, and AMD parts are stuck on lower frequencies.
     
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    Intels IPC was clearly shown up when a 7700K at 4.5ghz went up against a 8700K at 4.5ghz with 2 cores and 4 threads disabled, the 7700K actually won a few tests
     
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    Clearly? Lol. They should be very close. That's the expected result. Next.
     
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    Performance matters, but if performance is produced at lower clocks and higher efficiency then it is still performance
     
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    Okay, and? We're talking a handful of watts here for desktop enthusiast parts. Not exactly earth-shattering. This isn't Vega vs. 1080Ti, lol.
     
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    Well 30-50W mattered when it's AMD GPUs. Now it's Intel no one gives a fuck. Funny how that works eh?
     
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    Don't know how Vega/Pascal comes into this, but in terms of consumption, as before the idea of dropping node size is to reduce power and efficiency, since all intel mainstream chips are mobility chips with higher clocks, it seems that power will mater more in terms of heat output, if less resources have higher consumption, it is problematic.

    which is why again AMD produce good results at low frequency, this is Sandybridge like in that Sandy needed only low clocks to produce a lot of performance per watt
     
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    I mean, only if you completely ignore the relationship, i.e. Intel is giving you more performance for more power usage, performance you cannot get with AMD regardless of power usage, while AMD is giving you less performance for more power usage with Vega...
     
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    As a point of comparison? And a handful of watts for more performance is suddenly the same as dozens more for less performance?

    I'm pointing out how pointless your complaint is.
     
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    In terms of efficiency Intel is basically AMD at this point.
    Nearly 3x power for ~20% performance?
    No thanks. A 290x is enough space heating for me.
     
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