When are we looking for a true "3000" series release? I have read various things that have me excited. The Navi GPU and the extended RAM support should be great leaps.
I would think by Zen3 we should have actual HBM on APU and usher in a whole new era.
3400g is zen+, 2400g is zen, 4400g or whatever they end up calling it will probably be either a zen+ revision or zen 2, depending on how well zen 2 works with their gpus.If these were based on Zen 2 then they would be interesting. Some bs marketing calling these 3xxx series when they are basically the same thing as the 2xxx APUs. I don't see any use outside a cheap system and htpc for these. Gaming is very meh on these.
I ran the 2200g in my wifes and daughters rigs .. My wife ran 3 monitors and just watched movies on one monitor, spreadsheets on another and chrome with 20 tabs open on the other..
My daughter played Fortnite, Strange Brigade and of course Minecraft on her 1080p monitor and I was impressed that it played Fortnite and Strange Brigade so well...
I "upgraded" wife to the 3200g (better memory controller and can now run 4 sticks of memory stable) and I upgraded my 2700x to a 3700x and moved my 'old' chip to my daughters rig and also gave her a GTX1060 3GB vidcard... sold the 1 2200g on Craigslist and put together a rig with the other 2200g to sell locally
I do wish they would have stuck the the naming convention for apu, it's confusing a 3400g is a 2000 series Zen+, not zen2. I mean, everyone here probably understands, but still... Just confusion for no real reason.3400g is zen+, 2400g is zen, 4400g or whatever they end up calling it will probably be either a zen+ revision or zen 2, depending on how well zen 2 works with their gpus.
They're being fairly consistent within families (apu, cpu, workstation, server), you just have to know what you're buying.
I do wish they would have stuck the the naming convention for apu, it's confusing a 3400g is a 2000 series Zen+, not zen2. I mean, everyone here probably understands, but still... Just confusion for no real reason.
Yeah they started this problem with the 2000G APUs. They come out in between 1000 and 2000 Ryzen, they should have called them 1000G APUs.
I think a lot of eagerly waiting to see what 7nm APUs contain. Hoping for more cores and Navi GPUs, but we probably only get them fall 2020.
I would have loved it if I could have gotten a 6 core APU with at least Zen+ when I was forced to upgrade recently. Sadly the built in graphics would blow away what I'm still having to use for a video card simply because I didn't have the money to upgrade it at the same time. Plus I would probably need a new PSU since mine is somewhere around 12 years old.
The CCX design probably makes it uneconomical to really do a 6 core APU (unless if it was a cut-down 8 core, which brings its own issues with economy). AMD already had to cut down on the L3 cache to reduce the footprint of the chip. My best guess is these chips are AMD's mobile play (evidenced by their 12 PCIe lanes - 4 for the chipset, though in APU laptops, there is no separate chipset, leaving all 12 lanes for use). The desktop aspect is almost secondary.
With chiplets being a thing, I would love to see a proper APU with CPU + GPU + HBM. Intel has already proved a janky version of this can be done on a single package (Kaby Lake-G with Vega), time for AMD to actually leverage their acquisition of ATi, instead of letting others do that for them (consoles and Intel).
I also agree 100% with the chiplet concept for an APU. It's something that AMD should find a way to do since they have everything they need to do it. Sadly, the market for it is probably niche unless they were somehow able to get the power requirements really low for mobile use which likely isn't feasible.
Power / heat will probably require they disable a couple cores and make a six core. Either that or it's just gonna be four cores. I gave up on dreaming of APUs I would actually buy several generations ago.I bet the next APU is still monolithic. Hoping for 8 Core, because I agree, 6 core native is unlikely with CCX design, and I doubt they want to redesign a 6 core just for the APU.
Power / heat will probably require they disable a couple cores and make a six core. Either that or it's just gonna be four cores. I gave up on dreaming of APUs I would actually buy several generations ago.
Is there an OS that doesn't work well with 3400g?