And a beta many of us could not stop playing. Have not stopped playing.
So true.. It's a great game.
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And a beta many of us could not stop playing. Have not stopped playing.
I played a ton, but have given up recently, endless chopper/plane rape sucks dick.
I played a ton, but have given up recently, endless chopper/plane rape sucks dick.
In my experience of all BF games, the only counter to a "pro" jet player is another "pro" jet player. The high skill ones can absolutely rape an entire team with zero repercussions.
So much has changed in BF4 that its too early to tell what the thing will be that people are most screaming about being OP. My guess is it'll be the attack boats actually. Especially once people unlock TV missile and you've got three of those boats per team on maps like Paracel Storm.
I can see people complaining about the weapon distribution. Engineers go from carbines to PDWs? They were already fairly limited at range and only useful as a class in large scale maps with vehicles, so reducing their potential attack range even further is pretty tough.
Naval warfare has expanded but it's hardly going to be in every single map, so I don't think complaining about attack boats will be universal.
Yup. Softlam also helps with javelins.Pro jet fighters can be beaten by a few teammates with Stingers. Just takes teamwork.
BF4? They're already done with BF5 and working on BF7 by now...roflmfao.
But some people are very good with those TV missiles in heli's, and so unless they limited the range on the boat-mounted ones, then I could see it being a problem if boat campers get in the habit of finding nice hiding spots to spam TV's all round.
What we've seen time and again is DICE's internal testing doesn't account for the 'troll' factor in the game - meaning their internal gameplay rounds are nice courteous rounds where they're not sitting and trying to blow up their own team's vehicles or infantry, camp tanks on the runway, C4 the tails of heli's, tip over own-team's Heli's with fixed AA, and all the other griefing behavior seen that it usually takes DICE a patch or three before seeing how the game breaks once the a-holes on pub servers get a hold of it and find the exploits. I suspect BF4 will have its own share of griefer magnets but I'll remain optimistic because honestly it looks awesome and I'm sure a lot of the rough edges that got ironed out in 2 years of BF3 tweaking have carried forward to benefit BF4.
Not sure if serious.
They make a new BF as often as they change their underwear...if you're wanting a new one, you won't have to wait long.
Every two years. Nice try though.
In my experience of all BF games, the only counter to a "pro" jet player is another "pro" jet player. The high skill ones can absolutely rape an entire team with zero repercussions.
Yep...every 2 years you'll get 1 new grenade and 2 more rifles. Congrats.
Meh, Premium bullshit strikes again. $110 to get the entire game...
Meh, Premium bullshit strikes again. $110 to get the entire game...
I'm sure this has to be a troll because nobody is this stupid...
Dice has added quite a bit of stuff for BF4, but I'm sure if you took time to research it instead of posting nonsense you could see for yourself.
To play devil's advocate, and making the assumption I'll play BF4 in the ballpark of my BF3 hours the last two years, then $110 divided 770h = $0.14 (cents) per hour
Compared with some of the other games I've played in the past year (according to my Steam)
Bioshock infinite $60 divided by 9h I played it = $8.57 /hr
Crysis 3 $40 divided by 8h I played it = $5 /hr
Tomb Raider $40 divided by 15h I played it = $2.66 /hr
Borderlands 2 $50 + $25 season pass divided by 252h I played it = $0.29 /hr
FWIW, Movie in theater = $17 divided by 2h = $8.50 /hr
So I guess it all depends on your perspective and whether you're just a core/casual FPS player and only plan to play it a few dozen hours (in which case why would you want or care about premium) or will put more time in, play with friends, maybe join a clan. Its an investment for two years of entertaining gameplay as I see it. I know I'll get more than enough value from it.
How is this different from any other game with DLC? .
Everyones doing it!
....is not a valid defense.
Call of duty 4/5 (waw) was $50, had free "map packs"
now every game is $60 and has premium seasonal edition DeLuxE to the MAxx thats another $60+.
I really don't think anyone should put up with it. I'll personally get this game when its $30 for the WHOLE package.
Completely disagree with any idea that you can just part out the hours instead of the actual quality of the experience so that it is somehow is a better investment. It simply doesn't work like that unless you enjoy everything in life equally.
Completely disagree with any idea that you can just part out the hours instead of the actual quality of the experience so that it is somehow is a better investment. It simply doesn't work like that unless you enjoy everything in life equally.
Supposedly BF4 jets will drop and crash if slowed down too much, so hopefully no more of that bullshit like BF3 jets where they could slow down to a crawl blasting away while suspended in mid air like hanging from a crane, then zoom off without a care.
I'm not defending it. I'm asking why it's different from any other gamethat is, why did Mr. xIronCrossx (people still do this xxxNamexxx format stuff?) specifically single out BF4 when it isn't even the most egregious offender? If you're committed enough to a game to anticipate getting all its expansion packs, why turn around and grind teeth over a game getting guaranteed new content post-release? Getting more official content for a game you enjoy should be a good thing.
And at least we have season passes now. We're a long way from the days of horse armor.
Okay. Coming from someone who didn't play BF3, but prolly put a thousand hours into BF2....which package should I buy? I don't see how I won't put a crap ton of hours into this - I already dusted off my Joystick to fly
First of all, really we are going to go about someone's username?
No the reason why I single BF4 out is because of this. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/241306/dice-well-never-charge-for-battlefield-maps/). And because they added stupid shit like prioritized loading and whatnot.
I bought BF3 before launch, I played in the Alpha and both the Betas(open and closed) and yes, I enjoyed it. Then came Premium, and at first it was still OK, but after a while it seemed like 90% of the servers were all rotating newer maps which didn't allow me to join. That's when I lost interest, and I didn't feel like paying $50 just to continue playing a game that wasn't going to get any better.
Says the guy praising a game that hasn't even gone live...lmfao.
However...I'll elaborate.
Forums everywhere are chock full of people complaining about how (both) the BF and CoD series are recycled, then sold for a ridiculous price...and honestly...they're right. But...if people are willing to pay premium for few changes here and there, I say it's marketing genius.
Again...praising features of a game that's not out. Even for a fan-boy, that's ballsy.
so ignorant...a great deal of the game has been shown already, as have countless new features.
In your same post here you have said I'm praising a game that hasn't gone live yet then you say its the same recycled game. Well I have 710 hours in BF3 so far, so if it is indeed recycled it will be worth EVERY fucking penny. Now go troll your stupid petty bullshit somewhere else.
Directly attacking people on the internet is soo 5 years ago...