I was all set to get myself a 5850 during the holidays until I found out they are next to impossible to find in stock anywhere. Most of the local shops say it will be mid January before they get their next shipment of the cards in. Anyways, being an Nvidia owner for my last two cards, I am starting to wonder if I should wait for Team Green to come out with their card. I know Nvidia is keeping everyone in the dark about their next gen card, but I was just wondering if anyone has an educated guess as to when we will see the consumer Fermi cards on the shelves. Are we talking sometime in Q1, or is trying to guess as to the availability just that - guesswork?