HiCZoK
Gawd
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Just asking about the "old" golden standard 1080p, 60hz, IPS or VA. Good calibration and so on. I know that nothing changed on high refresh rate front, so there is no point even talking about that unfortunately. There are still only very grainy, bad quality IPS, TN and curved VA (except that one LG) there. (The dream would be 1080p, 144-240hz, gsync fully glossy IPS or VA, flat).
I also don't care much about 4k until integer 1080p scaling exist.
The marketing in last years is pushing us towards 4k and high refresh rates. As great as those are, There are drawbacks and we still have not even mastered 1080p, 60 which in my opinion is still good golden standard.
Year ago I was in transition between 240hz, 144hz, gsync montiors and so on. Testing quite a few of them and so in between shipments, I was using this 10 years old Hp tn monitor(hp w2207 I think). What is interesting is that it is Fully GLOSSY old TN... and interestingly,enough perfect gamma, no banding, nice deep colors. Even TN was better back then... But what was most surprising was it's mirror screen finish. It made blacks look better, colors pop more and increase perceived sharpness. I quickly got very used to it and noticed the reflections are not a big deal.
I game a lot on ps4 too and simple 1080p, 60hz monitor is a perfect solution there.
Games like Uncharted 4 or Bloodborne look stunning compared to anything high refresh rate. And even on ps4 pro, you get max 60fps in most games. And since I've noticed I am using 60hz more than high refresh rates, I sold the Aoc and lg.
The best modern monitor I could find year ago was Hp 27ea (there is even more superior 25" version but not available in Europe):
subjective - 1080p, 60hz
+Glossy (yet only 98%)
+Great calibration and color
+Perfect 2.2 gamma
+Good overdrive at setting 2
+Nice desing (looks)
+2 hdmi ports, vga, audio in and out
+Good contrast for IPS at 1200
+Nice simple osd (can even disable power LED)
+No bleeding at all and ips glow only in lower right corner
-Black glossy bezels (matte bezels would be better) which are also pointlessly slim. Give me fat matte bezels.
-Glossy coating is only 98% mirror. It still does have some grain and diffuses a bit. nowhere near perfect glossy.
-Silver bottom bezel (its ok but prefer matte black)
-No adjustable stand and no vesa mount
-Crappy buttons
Now if there only was 1080p 60hz(or more) IPS or VA monitor like that but with matte bezels, full gloss(not 98% crap) and adjustable stand or vesa... 25" or 27" even is fine with full glossy since it looks sharper. or 1080p mirror oled... but let's not get into dreams territory
Edit: Apparently there is new Hp 25/27F but it does not change much if anything compared to er/es/ea models
I also don't care much about 4k until integer 1080p scaling exist.
The marketing in last years is pushing us towards 4k and high refresh rates. As great as those are, There are drawbacks and we still have not even mastered 1080p, 60 which in my opinion is still good golden standard.
Year ago I was in transition between 240hz, 144hz, gsync montiors and so on. Testing quite a few of them and so in between shipments, I was using this 10 years old Hp tn monitor(hp w2207 I think). What is interesting is that it is Fully GLOSSY old TN... and interestingly,enough perfect gamma, no banding, nice deep colors. Even TN was better back then... But what was most surprising was it's mirror screen finish. It made blacks look better, colors pop more and increase perceived sharpness. I quickly got very used to it and noticed the reflections are not a big deal.
I game a lot on ps4 too and simple 1080p, 60hz monitor is a perfect solution there.
Games like Uncharted 4 or Bloodborne look stunning compared to anything high refresh rate. And even on ps4 pro, you get max 60fps in most games. And since I've noticed I am using 60hz more than high refresh rates, I sold the Aoc and lg.
The best modern monitor I could find year ago was Hp 27ea (there is even more superior 25" version but not available in Europe):
subjective - 1080p, 60hz
+Glossy (yet only 98%)
+Great calibration and color
+Perfect 2.2 gamma
+Good overdrive at setting 2
+Nice desing (looks)
+2 hdmi ports, vga, audio in and out
+Good contrast for IPS at 1200
+Nice simple osd (can even disable power LED)
+No bleeding at all and ips glow only in lower right corner
-Black glossy bezels (matte bezels would be better) which are also pointlessly slim. Give me fat matte bezels.
-Glossy coating is only 98% mirror. It still does have some grain and diffuses a bit. nowhere near perfect glossy.
-Silver bottom bezel (its ok but prefer matte black)
-No adjustable stand and no vesa mount
-Crappy buttons
Now if there only was 1080p 60hz(or more) IPS or VA monitor like that but with matte bezels, full gloss(not 98% crap) and adjustable stand or vesa... 25" or 27" even is fine with full glossy since it looks sharper. or 1080p mirror oled... but let's not get into dreams territory
Edit: Apparently there is new Hp 25/27F but it does not change much if anything compared to er/es/ea models
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