Anti-Piracy Group's Revenues Collapse, Pirates Too Hard To Track

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I just want to know how these guys aren't bankrupt by now. Predictably, the company is blaming its financial woes on ISPs that refuse to forward shakedown letters to their customers.

Anti-piracy outfit Rightscorp has just turned in another set of dismal results. During the past three months revenues plummeted 78% versus the same period last year with the company recording a net loss of $784,000. Pirates, it appears, are becoming harder to track and threaten.
 

pothb

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How do they get revenues in the first place? I mean, I know they sue people but how many lawsuits have they had in the past year?
 

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Maybe if the media companies stopped spending so much money on companies like this, and instead used the money saved to lower the price there would be less piracy?

My cable company could probably lower my bill by $20/month if they didn't spend so much on marketing.
I usually receive 8 to 10 ads every week, either as direct mail, fliers in general advertisement mailers or in the paper.
 

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How do they get revenues in the first place? I mean, I know they sue people but how many lawsuits have they had in the past year?
Scare tactics mostly, they send letters saying pay us $X or we will sue you, lots of people can't afford the legal bills.

Maybe if the media companies stopped spending so much money on companies like this, and instead used the money saved to lower the price there would be less piracy?

My cable company could probably lower my bill by $20/month if they didn't spend so much on marketing.
I usually receive 8 to 10 ads every week, either as direct mail, fliers in general advertisement mailers or in the paper.
Fucking A, we moved into a place which used to be apartments, had to complain to Verizon 3 times before we stopped getting 7 mailers every month.
 

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Revenues dropped... there's your problem! It's like privatizing prison systems, when you make it so some private entity can profit when people commit crimes you don't do nothing to dissuade people from committing crimes, in fact you do just the opposite you make sure laws get passed so that more people commit crimes.
 

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Scare tactics mostly, they send letters saying pay us $X or we will sue you, lots of people can't afford the legal bills.
I forgot that is one of their tactics... been a while since I heard any news from them....
 

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Scare tactics mostly, they send letters saying pay us $X or we will sue you, lots of people can't afford the legal bills.
That explains why two weeks ago they sent out 2 million piracy notices in one day and crashed the ISP's mail server.
 

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Scare tactics mostly, they send letters saying pay us $X or we will sue you, lots of people can't afford the legal bills.
That's nothing. A demand for settlement is not a lawsuit so most people just ignore them. Even the industry itself doesn't have the resources to sue all of those people.
 

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The way the mass spammers work is they grab your IP when you torrent something. They then send a copyright violation notice to your ISP who is supposed to forward it to you. The notice will include the download date & time & case # along with a website. You are supposed to go to the website, put in the case # then get an option to pay vs alternatives.

Up until this point they don't know who you are. ISPs will not just give them info without a court order, and all of that costs money. Once you plug your info in they will try to link you to other violations with the same IP and get you for those.

It is cheaper for them to send out a bunch of notices and collect cash vs going to court and paying for lots of court orders. That has been done though, people get threatened and pay, but there again I don't believe anyone has actually been taken to trial.
 

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Gosh, how could a scheme involving legal threats and shakedowns of your customers go badly?
 

jiminator

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It happens all the time. Another popular one involved sending notices to all restaurants for music played on speakers. Lots of people payed.
 

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Based on revenues, these companies are not doing great. Do the media companies need them at all? Prosecuting potential customers doesn't seem like the best business plan.
I'm not defending the pirates. A better plan might be to try to make a product they want to buy. Is this a streaming service, lower prices, ??? I don't claim to have the answers but ins stead of prosecuting, why not try to plant some seeds that might grow instead of putting down pesticide?
 

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Bittorrent traffic has dropped craploads these days, it used to be #1 source around the world lol. Now it's under 10%, that's far less users and I bet those are users using VPN. As rightscorp is not NSA/CIA/Five Eyes or LEO, they are not going to have a shitshow in hell. Welcome to diminishing returns, you leeches! Good bye... pirates win again.

They use the same approach as another company, known as the world bank, IRS/IRD/IRbanksters.
In the legal world, it is often called fishing. Absolute waste of time if one has any knowledge of law.
 
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