Who said it was nice places? They could have at off the dollar menu at McDonalds while at GDC (which was a business trip), might have ordered a pizza some night during a long work session, or went to the bar for a drink or two with prospective investors. You just stated that you spend some money every now and then on food. So what he is saying is true that isn't that unreasonable to spend a little on that type of stuff. Of course you don't go out and spend $2000 on a meal. But $100-$200 a year wouldn't be that crazy.
They spent $1000 to get setup for access to Sony's dev network. They paid consultants to make graphics, music and sound effects. That there would eat into most if their budget. Plus at this point it is still he said he said. They claim they had money left in the bank and this other guy cleaned them out, he claims they were out of money because they already cleaned them out. I have to say their side sounds more believable than his.
Maybe, but the whole venture was totally doomed from the start. $4,459 is not even close to enough to fund the development of the game. It makes me wonder if anyone actually intended to release anything or if the whole thing was always a scam. The numbers don't add up.
The programmer, whom I have already given my reasons for believing more than the other dudes.
I REALLY HATE the "no editing in this subforum" thing. What is the reasoning behind it..?
Yeah it's hard to say since they both have believable points. My guess is neither one told the entire truth, but I'm more inclined to believe the programmer, since the 2 investment guys stated that they DID spend company money on dining and drinking. In their words:
"I dont know why hes painting that picture, but the reality is that anything that was spent in a bar or restaurant was very reasonable in nature when you look at any business, including video game companies."
Uh, no. Not when your entire budget is 10k, that's not reasonable. You need every cent to count. They were acting like they were working for a multi-million dollar company.
Pretty much this. The bottom line is that most professional games' programmers will make more than $5000 in a month in salary. All of that $5000 should have been going to the game. Not even buying raman would be considered reasonable, unless the game was about to be released, and they splurged as celebration, and even that would be pushing it in my opinion.
Anyway, the one thing I've learned: Never ever go into business with your friends. It works out as well as buying a Powerball ticket and winning the jackpot. I've seen way too many friendships broken up, because they went in with good intentions, and learned the hard truth that money causes friction, and that in the end, you can't trust anyone but yourself. (And to other people, you're probably lying when you try to spin your story).
Which $5000? The kickstarter $5000 was not for the game it was for creating how to make a video game tutorial. They delivered on that a year so. So they did spend that money on that project. So no, none of that $5000 should have went toward the game as that isn't what people gave money for. It should have, and did, go toward how to videos.
I think that tutorial series was used as a way to help fund the game itself. That's what it seems like at least.