Anandtech: Intel Details Manufacturing through 2023: 7nm, 7+, 7++, with Next Gen Packaging

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  1. Snowdog

    Snowdog [H]ardForum Junkie

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    Intel is showing manufacturing plan for next 4+ years:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/1431...oadmap-refined-nodes-specialized-technologies

    Naturally there will be some skepticism considering the stumbles of 10nm, but OTOH, they no doubt learned a lot from their mistakes. Here are some of the interesting slides:

    Aggressive ramp to 7nm:
    intel-process-roadmap.png

    Intel has no immediate plans for multi-chip for PC consumers. Multi-chip is for datacenter:
    intel-process-tech-multiple.png

    First 7nm product is GP-GPU in 2021:
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  2. Jim Kim

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    So long 10nm, we hardly knew ye
     
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  3. Zarathustra[H]

    Zarathustra[H] Official Forum Curmudgeon

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    I'll repost what I said in the AMD clawback thread:

    So, their "aggressive ramp up" hits 7nm by 2021.

    I may not be in the fab industry, but my experience with anything r&d and manufacturing related is that whenever you set aggressive timelines, things inevitably miss and get delayed.

    Intel 7nm by 2021 seems like a best case now, not a worst case.

    Hopefully this gives AMD enough time to cement their supplier relationships and work on improving their architecture to the point where it is competitive with Intel on the same process node.

    It would be fantastic have real long term competition among competitive rivals leap frogging each other in this space.
     
  4. Snowdog

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    10nm is process 1274, it continues to 2023, which is as far as the first slide goes.
     
  5. Snowdog

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    Anything that far in the future is a big unknown, but I would expect Intel to be a bit more conservative in their public estimates after the 10nm debacle. Also 7nm development is completely separate from 10nm, and there is another AT story from today discussing it:
    https://www.anandtech.com/show/1431...r-products-in-1h-2020-accelerated-7nm-in-2021
     
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    Intel Marketing slide to English translation:
    We are going to sell a few low power mobile cpu on 10nm until 7nm is ready in 2021.
    For desktop segment, we are looking at 7nm Ryzen vs 14nm ++++ Intel for summer 2019 through some time in 2021.
    Hopefully AMD puts enough back into R&D so they can survive when Intel comes back with a vengeance in 2022.
     
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  8. InorganicMatter

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    Intel’s 10 nm process is very different from their 7 nm process. Their 10 nm is a multi-patterning process (I think it’s SAQP), but their 7 nm process is a single-patterning process (with EUV). They’ve already been working on their EUV tech concurrently with their SAQP tech.