AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X and 1920X CPU Review @ [H]

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  1. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X and 1920X CPU Review - The day is finally upon us that many CPU enthusiasts have been waiting for. We get to see what AMD's new Threadripper CPU is all about in terms of performance, and in attempts to cool the beast. There has been no lack of hype for months now, so let's see if it is all justified.
     
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    The 2 additional dies are allegedly dummy dies that provide structural support.

     
  3. Ieldra

    Ieldra I Promise to RTFM

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    It's always nice being pleasantly surprised, TR is kicking serious ass at this price point, very impressive, great review
     
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    Have you thought about using another benchmark other than Hyper-Pi and WPrime? y-cruncher is really nice, if you want to give it a look. It'll use all your cores and even rate how effective is your hyper-threading.

    Nice writeup. For sure seems like a production piece with gaming chops.
     
  5. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    All I could get out of AMD was that the extra dies are "non-functioning" so who knows.
     
  6. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Hyper Pi will do all cores, I just use it for the metric that it is. Don't need any more synthetics IMO.
     
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  7. Syphon Filter

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    I think the real winner here will be the 1900X.

    Much lower price-point, fewer but still enough C/Ts and, most importantly...ALL the other functionality remains (e.g. Quad Channel, 64-lanes). And a higher base clock (and possibly boost) to boot.
     
  8. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Thanks, was trying to keep our more enthusiast oriented.
     
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  9. sirmonkey1985

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    if only i had a reason for a setup like this, either way it was worth waiting til 6 am to read the review.. competition is finally getting spicy in the cpu market.
     
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    Curious how well these handle virtualization. Not saying it needs to be part of this particular review (not really what HardOCP does). I'm just curious in general.
     
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    Looks cool , how was the memory handing compared to the X370 platform ?
     
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    And now, I almost wish I had waited for Threadripper to do my build. Oh well, not exactly suffering with a cheap 8 core box, but still, most impressive. Very curious to see the overclocking results with the new waterblock. I'll be waiting!
     
  14. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Page 8. I already typed it once.
     
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    Xaeos [H]ardness Supreme

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    Wow! Thanks for your review! The only thing I'm concerned about is that, given the price point, the Intel 7900 OC'ed to 4.6 seems to be so competitive and in some cases come in significantly above on benchmarks, perhaps due to its faster frequency.

    I am very interested to see your future overclocking investigations to see what kind of performance we can really get out of a 1950X, OC'ed across all threads. Does it seem possible to "catch up" to Intel's performance in single/low threaded workloads with an enhanced OC? If so, then TR could really be an absolute stand out across all workloads and usage, as one would expect of something at this price point. No matter what I'm glad to see AMD competitive again and especially at the HEDT leve, but it would be nice given the price point if it could equal/beat Intel's performance in single/lower threaded workloads as well as thrive in the usages cases that can make use of the additional cores/threads.

    It does seem that most coolers aren't designed for/up to the task, for the moment though; good to know. Do you think you could please look into how common higher-end waterblocks from EKWB (ie Supremacy EVO), Swiftech (Apogee; both the current edition on which the block included in the "X2" AIO's is based, and the new upcoming next generation taking pre-orders), and more? Just to know if some other major waterblocks are up to the task or if we really absolutely need purpose-built, socket-specific blocks.
     
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    It's definitely interesting. I hope they can kick on to some big sellers.

    Wish they did a lower power consumption one with a lower clock speed as I'd take a punt. The intel 1567 and 1577 are witchcraft in that regard, different market but one AMD should really be pitching Epyc or Threadkiller towards.
     
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    Any chance you could do some x265 or h.265 encoding comparisons?
     
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    Question for Kyle:

    I noticed that PCPer and Anand ran the 1950X in both "Game mode" (UMA vs NUMA modes) and regular mode. Which mode were your benchmarks in?
     
  19. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Mine were done in "Game" mode. Memory access modes were not available to change on my setups. Distributed vs Local no worky from what I was exposed to.

    Edit: To fill everyone in...

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  20. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    Here is a link to the complete Threadripper reviewer's guide off my Google drive.

     
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    This thing looks like all that was promised! I wish I had the cash and the need to use one. I do think our next virtualization hardware in the data center I work at will be Epyc based though.
     
  22. Inacurate

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    Wonder how well this CPU will hold four or five years from now.
    That's the question I'm always trying to answer when I go to build a new PC.

    Kyle, you packin a time machine anywhere? :p
    Let's go back and buy some Google/Apple stock, too.
     
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  23. Kyle_Bennett

    Kyle_Bennett El Chingón Staff Member

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    The aftermath. I need a nap.

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    But I was really getting the hang of mounting my DIY block system.

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    Thanks for the detailed review. My wallet is twitching....
     
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    Nice to see IPC keeping up with Intel for the most part. Will be looking forward to the followup on overclocking. It's going to be real hard deciding between a 1950X and 7940X now.
     
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    Was hoping TR would be a little more competitive gaming-wise, but I understand it continues the trend we've seen lower in the Ryzen line-up... moreover it's probably not the ideal use case for the processor anyway.
     
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    I wonder what perf would have been like if run in the game mode in tests where NuMA is issue.

    Thanks for the unique review. Makes me want to get a TR and water cool it.
     
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    To be honest, i got a little bit bored reading reviews, it basically performed as i have expected it to.

    Am glad to know that platform was nailed perfectly this time.
     
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    def going to wait for some more cooling options. (I'm lazy like that). also waiting to see if universe sandbox starts supporting
     
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    I want this so bad but I doubt they are going to put legacy PCI slots on any mobo. :(
     
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    If you're talking about catching up to the 7900 in single thread workloads, I doubt it'll happen with overclocking. 4GHz was pretty much the ceiling with ryzen, and I expect you wont get much more with epyc/threadripper.

    After optimization and with overclocking, you might get close... we'll have to wait and see how much they can actually do to optimize this beast of a cpu.
     
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    This is turning into maybe some of the best of times for PCs and thanks for bringing back the excitement in the review. Great integration of all the previous work with TR which gives the review a one stop power-base to work from. I would have total confidence in being able to build a rig based upon your work.

    For me TR is probably a next year build, a serious platform which I would want good maturity to go along with it. Looks like AMD and AIBs has learned much from RyZen and has a better launch for TR - great news.
     
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    I can finally make a sound recommendation for our compile machine. Compiles usually take to 4 hours for 72 projects. I think this will nicely cut us down as Visual Studio's compiler uses all available threads (unless you specify otherwise in the compile options.)

    Well done AMD.
     
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  34. griff30

    griff30 I Lower the Boom!

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    Thank you for the review!
    Now to start planning my 16 core build.
     
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    that's why i like [H] reviews, straight to the point and without the 20 pages of fluff you see on some other sites..
     
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    Thanks Kyle, she looks like a winner for sure, looking forward to the follow up with the big block on it. If I were marketing to the TR crowd id name the WB 454/502/572, honoring the massive size. of the IHS! 4.2Ghz on this would be amazing...Is it possibly to do a clock for clock comparison in the future?
     
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    Thank you for that. Non-functioning doesn't mean they are not real dies. Reason I say that, is I noticed they spent $ on the Indium to solder the inactive dies too. There are people thinking they can reactivate them and that AMD would make it so easy to screw over their EPYC line.. good luck with that. My theory is that they are not differentiating the EPYC production line from TR, they are the same product laser cut as needed, which would follow most past processors.

    Also thanks for saying
    Great review and really enjoyed it. Can't wait to see if they can further optimise it like Ryzen 7 is, in the few areas it was beaten by the little brother.


    And seeing an AMD cpu..scratch that.
    An AMD HEDT CPU... (yes, an AMD HEDT CPU - you are not dreaming) getting gold... on [H], in 2017.

    Well done to Lisa plus Jim and his team.
     
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    alxlwson You Know Where I Live

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    Good stuff!! I want! My 6600k isn't up to snuff for all the bluray ripping I've been doing.. Stupid 20 minute audio encodes.
     
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    Dunno, mate, those compile tests i have seen were nothing to write home about compared to 7900X. ECC support tips it in TR's favor though (unless it starts segfaulting lul).
     
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    Another nail in intel coffin, courtesy of AMD. mwahahahaah

    Nice review Kyle.
     
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