AMD Ryzen Review Leaks Early

Zareek said:
I noticed the chip pictured on the site looks like an engineering sample instead of retail. I wonder how old of a sample it is... If it truely represents final silicon, it looks like Ryzen is very memory bandwidth starved and has a weaker FPU compared to Intel chips. I think I see an 1800X in my future with some top of the line DDR4.
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It was stated somewhere in there that it's an ES and there were issues with the motherboard and RAM speeds. I'd imagine the post-NDA reviews tomorrow should answer these issues.

Even at that, at base clock and 2133 ram, those numbers are good.
 
Private_Ops said:
It was stated somewhere in there that it's an ES and there were issues with the motherboard and RAM speeds. I'd imagine the post-NDA reviews tomorrow should answer these issues.

Even at that, at base clock and 2133 ram, those numbers are good.
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I admittedly skimmed the text, Google translate is effective but the sentences are broken English at best. The numbers are a mixed bag but good enough. I think the value is there, my only question is should I spend more than I usually do on a Ryzen 1800X, settle for a 1700 or 1700X or go my typical direction and get a 7700K. I've had my current CPU 3770K for longer than I typically would because I didn't see the value in an upgrade. I'm still happy with my current machine but my son needs a better processor. He's still using an old Core 2 Quad OCed to 3.2Ghz on air. Maybe I should hold out for the 4 and 6 core Ryzen flavors before deciding...
 
Yea actually, if that is the real world performance I can expect I will be a happy camper with my purchase. :)
 
Grimlaking said:
Yea actually, if that is the real world performance I can expect I will be a happy camper with my purchase. :)
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same here.

If people complain about no 4.5 ghz, it'll be the same discussion as we went from single to dual, dualcores to quads, and now quads to 6/8 core.
I don't see why people find their 4.5 ghz so important for their DX11 games that run fine on stock clocks and without the fps counter they wouldn't know the difference.
 
ole-m said:
same here.

If people complain about no 4.5 ghz, it'll be the same discussion as we went from single to dual, dualcores to quads, and now quads to 6/8 core.
I don't see why people find their 4.5 ghz so important for their DX11 games that run fine on stock clocks and without the fps counter they wouldn't know the difference.
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Because thats not always true at 60Hz.
Worse at higher framerate.

If you really wanted to know why you would have found out before posting.
 
Waiting impatiently.

Want to see a giant killer, but will wait for the NDA to lift.

Fanboi of performance at a reasonable price. :)
 
ecktt said:
Not to sound like an Intel fanboy but, these result seem...... meh
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Yea, I see it. It's not extra-ordinary, but we also need to see what happens when RAM can be run at intended speed. No one reviews like [H], so for that we continue to wait.
 
Those Winrar numbers are tainted by the memory/engineering sample. Must wait till 3/2/2017 :-(

Us 2700K'rs know whats up.
 
Domingo said:
Has anyone ever been able to deny/confirm that these have the same DRM functionality found in Kaby Lake? Being able to play 4K Netflix and UHD Blu-Rays = literally the only reason I'd want a new Intel setup beyond my 4790k.
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I'd be interested in that too, but unfortunately I am only going to be using G4560 for that HTPC box, so even if Ryzen supports it, it might not convince me enough to fork over the extra cash.

i3's will most likely have their rears kicked by Ryzen, i5 even and give i7's a run for their money, but the budget 2C/4T market has no equal, especially considering that DRM function and Pentium pricing.
 
Why do people keep saying it is an ES? I thought they bought the 1700x that was why they were not under nda. I know it is prelim but the real world is nothing better than a 6800K at stock from what I can tell and for me (thanks to Microcenter) a 6800K and mobo is cheaper than a 1700x and mobo by close to 100 bucks. I think the big winner will be the 1800x if it can deliver 6900K performance at half the price.
 
groebuck said:
Why do people keep saying it is an ES? I thought they bought the 1700x that was why they were not under nda. I know it is prelim but the real world is nothing better than a 6800K at stock from what I can tell and for me (thanks to Microcenter) a 6800K and mobo is cheaper than a 1700x and mobo by close to 100 bucks. I think the big winner will be the 1800x if it can deliver 6900K performance at half the price.
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Because Guru3d says that the picture looks like it's an engineering sample.
 
That site tested a bunch of older games on that site Bioshock Infinite is like 4+ years old....Suprised it goes neck to neck with the 5960X on CPU intensive tasks.
I wonder why the AMD chips get so much hype :wideyed:
 
groebuck said:
Why do people keep saying it is an ES? I thought they bought the 1700x that was why they were not under nda. I know it is prelim but the real world is nothing better than a 6800K at stock from what I can tell and for me (thanks to Microcenter) a 6800K and mobo is cheaper than a 1700x and mobo by close to 100 bucks. I think the big winner will be the 1800x if it can deliver 6900K performance at half the price.
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if you have the connections it's pretty easy to source ES chips and because they weren't supplied a chip by AMD they're technically not required to honor the NDA. either way this is a perfect example of why you don't review something without the proper hardware..
 
Ford Prefect said:
I hope the NDA lifts at midnight EST, so I can read reviews before going to sleep.
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Its 10AM EST. 9AM CST is technically the time on the NDA. This is based on some posts on reddit, no idea where they came from.
 
Domingo said:
Has anyone ever been able to deny/confirm that these have the same DRM functionality found in Kaby Lake? Being able to play 4K Netflix and UHD Blu-Rays = literally the only reason I'd want a new Intel setup beyond my 4790k.
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The HEVC support has nothing to do with the CPU, the KL CPU came with a GPU that was the first to support it, there are Nvidia GPUs that support it now.
 
Pleasantly surprised, not even looking at gaming benchmarks because of the vid card and mem clock. The straight up cpu bench is nice to see, single core seems kind of meh but it is bringing competition on all levels at lower prices (especially with all cores going). Can't wait for the in depth review, it is looking promising.
 
Look, the performance is pretty much there, the only one that was iffy and may be due to the memory shenanigans of the ES motherboard is Bioshock, and that game suffers more from butchered X axis, they moved the x Axis from 0 to 100 to increase the apparent disparity if you don't know math, and even in there it was 7.5% difference => with the cpu clock difference that is pretty much nothing for an old game that wasn't as heavily multithreaded and even then it stays comfortable above 120fps even at 1080p, which is more than enough.

In GTA V, a newer game with higher cpu weights, it stood right there with the pack at every resolution, so yeah, i expect great things from Ryzen today.
 
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BIOS issues and instability resulted initially in some games taking negative hits in SMT mode, I think that was corrected.
 
eneq said:
Its a good release from the viewpoint of the average gamer but doesnt change much for the high end.
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??? The "average gamer" don't spend $350 on the CPU. I'm waiting for the <$250 alternatives.

ecktt said:
... these result seem... meh
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To me they're as good as I could hope for, to some extent even better!
Not at all as disappointing as the Bulldozer release. :)
 
ole-m said:
same here.

If people complain about no 4.5 ghz, it'll be the same discussion as we went from single to dual, dualcores to quads, and now quads to 6/8 core.
I don't see why people find their 4.5 ghz so important for their DX11 games that run fine on stock clocks and without the fps counter they wouldn't know the difference.
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I'm really crossing my fingers that amd has a winner (for all of us) - but my 6 core was running at 4.5 for quite a while and is a couple year old tech now. When I lowered the clock down to 4.1 I did notice a fairly large difference... for Chrissake kyle is basically running the same system at 4.2 all day and is now an amd shill (/s just in case).
 
Comixbooks said:
That site tested a bunch of older games on that site Bioshock Infinite is like 4+ years old....Suprised it goes neck to neck with the 5960X on CPU intensive tasks.
I wonder why the AMD chips get so much hype :wideyed:
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ummm because that's NON overclocked AND much much much cheaper than Intels 5960X + MOBO. That's why there is so much hype
 
Olle P said:
??? The "average gamer" don't spend $350 on the CPU. I'm waiting for the <$250 alternatives.

To me they're as good as I could hope for, to some extent even better!
Not at all as disappointing as the Bulldozer release. :)
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Guy youre on a tech enthusiast site. We get our e-bones off sheer speed and a number of us are willing to spend!
 
Trimlock said:
The HEVC support has nothing to do with the CPU, the KL CPU came with a GPU that was the first to support it, there are Nvidia GPUs that support it now.
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Try running 4K Netflix or UHD Blu-Ray with anything but a Kaby Lake processor and you'll find it won't work. Both Nvidia and ATI claim support for it, but Netflix and PowerDVD don't seem to care as they only work with a Kaby setup no matter the video card.
 
Domingo said:
Try running 4K Netflix or UHD Blu-Ray with anything but a Kaby Lake processor and you'll find it won't work. Both Nvidia and ATI claim support for it, but Netflix and PowerDVD don't seem to care as they only work with a Kaby setup no matter the video card.
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4K netflix Nvidia Intel Xeon 2680 V2 working fine.
 
From The Ars...on the 1800X chip

The good
  • Eight cores and 16 threads at half the price of Intel
  • Excellent performance in workstation applications
  • AM4 is a modern, full-featured platform
  • While only a small performance boost, XFR is zero-effort and works well
The bad
  • Gaming performance is weak compared to Intel, particularly in modern titles
  • Specialised AVX applications will perform better under Intel

 
ole-m said:
4K netflix Nvidia Intel Xeon 2680 V2 working fine.
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Are you 100% certain it's actually doing 4K via Ctrl+Shift+Alt+D? Unless they have updated it in the last 2-3 weeks, the only way to get 4K Netflix via PC's was with a Kaby Lake processor.
 
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