AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 16-Core CPU Spotted & Tested, Up To 64% Faster Than 7950X3D

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On-going thread: https://hardforum.com/threads/9950x-and-9950x3d-is-going-to-be-terrific.2034409/

“The AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D CPU is expected to launch in early 2025 and should be announced at CES 2025. It will continue to build on the momentum started by the 9800X3D and will be priced at a premium due to its strong performance and efficiency. Expect more information in the coming months.
The performance of the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 3D V-Cache CPU was tested in Factorio where the chip scored 655 UPS. For comparison, the Ryzen 7 7950X3D scores an average of 400 & up to 458 UPS, while the Ryzen 7 9800X3D scores 553.7 UPS on average. This is an improvement of up to 64% over the 7950X3D and an 18% improvement over the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. The results can be seen in the chart below:“

Source: https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-9950x3d-16-core-cpu-spotted-up-to-64-percent-faster-than-7950x3d/
 
impressive uplift if true, kinda curious where it's coming from. Does anyone know what factorio loves most in CPU capabilities?
 
DanNeely said:
impressive uplift if true, kinda curious where it's coming from. Does anyone know what factorio loves most in CPU capabilities?
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The cache really helps Factorio, as it lets more of the calculations live inside the CPU itself with far fewer fetches from System Ram
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1879...eview-a-simpler-slice-of-v-cache-for-gaming/4
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It's a pretty big increase when the extra cache is present, far more so than when extra cores are involved.
The game itself didn't scale much past 6 cores, which is shown by the similarity between the 7600, 7700, and 7900.
But then look at the gap between the 7950 and the 7950x3d, where the only difference when operating 8 or fewer cores is that cache.
 
Lakados said:
The cache really helps Factorio, as it lets more of the calculations live inside the CPU itself with far fewer fetches from System Ram
https://www.anandtech.com/show/1879...eview-a-simpler-slice-of-v-cache-for-gaming/4
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It's a pretty big increase when the extra cache is present, far more so than when extra cores are involved.
The game itself didn't scale much past 6 cores, which is shown by the similarity between the 7600, 7700, and 7900.
But then look at the gap between the 7950 and the 7950x3d, where the only difference when operating 8 or fewer cores is that cache.
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The report is 60% faster than the last generation x3d chip; so unless WCCFTECH is wrong about it still only having 1 cache die that's not where the huge speedup is coming from.
 
DanNeely said:
The report is 60% faster than the last generation x3d chip; so unless WCCFTECH is wrong about it still only having 1 cache die that's not where the huge speedup is coming from.
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That was measuring FPS, I was giving calculations per second which in my opinion is the more important metric for simulation games.
The games frame rate is somewhat independent from the background simulation work.
 
So with the impending tariffs, im sort of wondering if i should buy parts for a new build this january..
 
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erek said:
Don’t hurt my feelings now
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lol
1.1.2.3.5... said:
So with the impending tariffs, im sort of wondering if i should buy parts for a new build this january..
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Dur. Doesn't matter. TSMC is in Taiwan. Geography/history FTW.
I promise your dollar will most likely be worth more now than it will be in January, though.
erek said:
The performance of the AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D 3D V-Cache CPU was tested in Factorio where the chip scored 655 UPS. For comparison, the Ryzen 7 7950X3D scores an average of 400 & up to 458 UPS, while the Ryzen 7 9800X3D scores 553.7 UPS on average. This is an improvement of up to 64% over the 7950X3D and an 18% improvement over the Ryzen 7 9800X3D. The results can be seen in the chart below:“
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It's a 43% improvement, if comparing the best score. That score is probably on LN2.

Still, even at 43%, the vultures are circling Intel. Hopefully they manage to survive.
 
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sleepeeg3 said:
Dur. Doesn't matter. TSMC is in Taiwan. Geography/history FTW.
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The fabs may be in Taiwan but a lot of other components for a complete PC build are made elsewhere. PCBs, packaging, etc. Just as an example, 80% of Asus products are made in China.

On the other hand, last time around the tech industry lobby managed to carve out an exception for electronics in the tariffs. Time will tell if they succeed again.
 
Epos7 said:
The fabs may be in Taiwan but a lot of other components for a complete PC build are made elsewhere. PCBs, packaging, etc. Just as an example, 80% of Asus products are made in China.
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Fair enough. Yes, Foxconn does a lot of the Motherboards/PCBs in China. CPU/GPU M.I.T. Chips Korea/US.
 
Curious how this works out for Satisfactory, seeing the increase for Factorio.
My 5800X falls on its face in late-game.
I'm just not sure how far the game is threaded.
 
1.1.2.3.5... said:
So with the impending tariffs, im sort of wondering if i should buy parts for a new build this january..
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Tariffs would be irrelevant for the 9950 x3d & next gen GPUs as they all release only next year

If you want the 9800x3d or a cheap AM5 board then you can grab one now, I guess
 
kac77 said:
Now this is the chip I'm excited for. I game, but I do a lot of workstation stuff that would benefit from this so I want something better than a 9800x3d.
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What workstation work do you mean? Would it benefit photo editing programs like Lightroom and Photoshop? If so that would be a reason for ME to upgrade.
 
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