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Vega FE single card, load Pro Drivers 19.Q1, Load Pro Gaming Drivers 18.8.1 (most recent supported gaming driver), switch to 18.8.1 gaming drivers and update to 19.2.1 using EZ setup. I have 19.2.1 installed and gaming on them. Installed second card, CFX with two Vega FE's which broke CFX with Far Cry 5 but is working with Metro 2033 Redux (playing currently). Looking forward to playing Far Cry 5 New Dawn but without CFX will be disappointing.
Wow! That just made this card worth it particularly for the content creators, Cad users, Medical and the list goes on with gaming around a 2080 level. What is super neat is you can load either the Pro Drivers or the gaming drivers separately, Vega FE was more restricted making you have to load Pro Drivers. My interest has perked up some now. Great news!
I did not have 18.9.3 as an option, highest was 18.8.1. When I installed 19.2.1 gaming driver it came up as 18.9.3 in the driver choices but then says when loaded 19.2.1. Some weird stuff. 18.9.3 maybe better for Far Cry 5 CFX, 18.9.1 worked flawless there.
But, but, but...what about 4k?
Okay, I'm still waiting for Navi. The Radeon VII is an obvious stopgap. I say that as an AMD fan (check the sig: Vega 56 and R9 390, and very old Nvidia's).
Holiday Season 2019 will change everything. Feliz NAVI-dad...indeed.
Why would any modern gpu cost less? I don't know if it'll be $250 or perform similarly to vega 64, but if it costs less to produce I see no reason for the price not to come down some. At least to a similar level of revenue or to match a the price of a card from the competition if the performance is there.
Right, which is why I said I don't know if it'll be $250. I don't see why it would have to be the same price as vega 64, though, especially if a similarly performing chip from nvidia costs less.
A wide but slow bus will always be more efficient than a narrow but fast one. A lot of engineering hoops have to be jumped through to make a high speed bus (voltages + signifigant extra logic) and that comes with a hefty penalty in terms of power consumption.
MY bad. Ill go back to hoping i can replace my gtx 1070 soon for the price i paid for it, Its a long hope
Just to expand on the bolded part for a second: the prices are a combination of what the market will support, the cost of manufacturing and the R&D cost of the product. AMD, Nvidia, Intel, and everyone else are looking to maintain as large a margin on sales as possible, so there's no way that AMD will sell a product that competes with an Nvidia equivalent at a price that's way lower. You might find that competition leads to lower prices in time as the two companies compete on price to drive sales, but it would be financial suicide for AMD to lead with drastically lower prices right out of the gate, mostly because they need to recoup the massive R&D costs (and this is true of all new tech products).
AMD is going to be trying to regain market share. If the profit margins are there then they should shake up the market. They've done it in the past.Just to expand on the bolded part for a second: the prices are a combination of what the market will support, the cost of manufacturing and the R&D cost of the product. AMD, Nvidia, Intel, and everyone else are looking to maintain as large a margin on sales as possible, so there's no way that AMD will sell a product that competes with an Nvidia equivalent at a price that's way lower. You might find that competition leads to lower prices in time as the two companies compete on price to drive sales, but it would be financial suicide for AMD to lead with drastically lower prices right out of the gate, mostly because they need to recoup the massive R&D costs (and this is true of all new tech products).
There's also the issue of perception: if Nvidia's GPUs are more expensive than AMD's then you shouldn't underestimate the number of people who might assume (subconsciously or otherwise) that that implies that Nvidia's products are higher quality. Hell, it works for Apple
But basically, I'd imagine that anyone hoping that AMD will come in with an equivalent product at a much lower price is going to be disappointed.
Aggressive market share. it's a tactic AMD has done before. So there is a history there. Sorry your feelings are hurt by a rumor.
BoM is only a fraction of the cost, though. A very large part of it is R&D and those costs will be significant for a new architecture.