AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Video Card Review @ [H]

Did any of these publish some sort of cryptocurrency benchmarks? I checked 3 or 4, not sure i can click 64 of em.
 
Performance seems ok especially if you're in the Freesync camp, but that power usage is outrageous. Can only imagine how much wattage it'll suck up when overclocking on water.
 
Just realized that if I bought one of these AMD cards I would have to buy a new .................................................. PSU ...........................................................

Thanks for the review guys. Appreciate it.
 
Rumors for the past two months were pretty spot on it seems. Just-sub 1080 performance, horrible power draw. And now the bilking on prices...

I keep seeing comparisons with the 2900xt and gtx 480. Thing is, the 2900 xt was no where near as far off nV's top end at the time as Vega is from 1080 ti, and while gtx 480 was certainly power hungry, it was definitely top dog when released.

I hate to say it, and as pointed out in the review it's great to have some competition (?) back in this segment, but this must be the worst card AMD has ever released.
 
SeymourGore said:
Just noticed the Silver award was placed on it, not sure if I didn't notice it the first time or the strong criticism in the final impression made me conclude there would be no award.

Still, nice to finally get RX Vega out in the wild and move on. This constant Vega hype since April has been hard on poor Seymour.
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That is NOT correct. Must have fat fingered a key on edit this morning. There is NO AWARD from HardOCP on the Vega 64.
 
So let's call it a GTX 1075 -1083 level performance (w/ current beta drivers) card that draws alot more power for current performance (up to +150 watts), with a MSRP slightly cheaper but realistically - due to crypto miners - actually equal to or more expensive than Nvidia equivalent (and if rumors of mining performance are true, the scarcity will likely remain that way for the foreseeable future).

The only glimmers of hope for Team Red that I can see are:

Pascal is near the end of life as Volta approaches vs. Vega just starting its life cycle (and device driver refinement). So there's room for some hope for Team Red fans. Likely to catch up? IMO no but there's always a shot.
Even if gamers don't buy it, Vega will still make tons of money off of crypto-miners for the foreseeable near future.
 
dvsman said:
Even if gamers don't buy it, Vega will still make tons of money off of crypto-miners for the foreseeable near future.
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But it's barely any faster than a 1070 while consuming massively more power?

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i guess the 1080ti and titan xp are the elephants in the room.

by the time AMD acknowledges them they'll be replaced by something newer and faster.
 
Damn, mixed bag for sure, making it hard to chose between my 1080 or this for freesync.

Thanks for the review

Side note: has anyone seen mining performance yet?

nevermind, as I posted it, someone showed it.
 
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Its not worth it right now. Have to wait to see what software mods can do. Ah just posted!
 
Thanks for the in-depth review, may I ask if the Nvidia cards used were FE or AIB models?
 
It's a sad day in MudsVille. AMD welcome to May 2016 in performance and May 2015 in heat/power consumption :(

At this rate Volta will cost $1000 for their 1180.

Competition is not there enough to give them incentive to charge less.
 
stashix said:
Thanks for the in-depth review, may I ask if the Nvidia cards used were FE or AIB models?
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FE models. I will add that to the system config page, thanks for pointing out we did not mention that specifically.
 
I think that AMD did a fantastic job for the time they had and the money they had to invest in it, or the lack of money, as the case may be. They have a highly competitive CPU again and that will make them money. All the need to do is what they have done on the Video Card side, at least until they can put more money into their research and development. The other thing is, I would not be the least bit surprised to find that lowering the VCore will not affect performance at all.
 
Question: Was Vega delayed, or has it just been a glimmer of hope in the distance for quite some time now? I remember people talking about Vega when I bought my 970 some time ago.
 
ManofGod said:
I think that AMD did a fantastic job for the time they had and the money they had to invest in it, or the lack of money, as the case may be.
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BigJayDogg3 said:
Question: Was Vega delayed, or has it just been a glimmer of hope in the distance for quite some time now? I remember people talking about Vega when I bought my 970 some time ago.
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I really think that they were screwed with, AFAIK, HBM2 delays from their suppliers. That really hurt them.
 
harmattan said:
To qualify that statement, it's the worst card AMD has ever released relative to other worst cards they've released.

The main drag is, in the past, there have always been trade offs in their unspectacular new chips -- many I've been happy living with. 290xt... high power draw and heat, but excellent performance; 3870... lower performance, but well priced. With Vega, there's no upside apart from, maybe, havimg another (albeit inferior) option in the upper tier.
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Let's stay on topic of the review. If you want to discuss this, please start your own thread.
 
stashix said:
Thanks for the in-depth review, may I ask if the Nvidia cards used were FE or AIB models?
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Founders Edition as expected and as should be.. from 1080FE To 1080 AIB should be another extra 10% out of the box.
 
Reality Yeah we saw the same behavior with Fury, if I'm not mistaking. Ditto with the Nano representing the 'best' case for the Fiji line, at least in terms of performance and power consumption. Of course its launch price left a lot to be desired, so not exactly all roses. It does make me wonder why AMD didn't fine-tune these cards a bit more.

Having the 1025mv (vs 1200mv stock) and higher default power target, out of the box, would have been more optimal - especially with these reference cards. Unfortunate that AMD is repeating the same mistakes from Fiji.
 
Personally I think your conclusion was too soft.

AMD only now achieved maxwell high-end performance per watt.

Let that sink in.

Nvidia managed to produce cards that perform simillarly (the 980 Ti and Titan Xm) using an EOL process node, stock-standard GDDR5, and two and a half years ahead. Vega is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned, not from a consumer standpoint, as pricing can always save a product, but from a 'faith in AMD' standpoint. NVidia's rumoured to release Volta before Christmas, and AMD will have nothing, NOTHING to show for all the time we waited.

Ugh.. at least Ryzen is awesome...
 
KazeoHin said:
Personally I think your conclusion was too soft.

AMD only now achieved maxwell high-end performance per watt.

Let that sink in.

Nvidia managed to produce cards that perform simillarly (the 980 Ti and Titan Xm) using an EOL process node, stock-standard GDDR5, and two and a half years ahead. Vega is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned, not from a consumer standpoint, as pricing can always save a product, but from a 'faith in AMD' standpoint. NVidia's rumoured to release Volta before Christmas, and AMD will have nothing, NOTHING to show for all the time we waited.

Ugh.. at least Ryzen is awesome...
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Ryzen is soon to be killed by CFL. It's already lacking in gaming and single-threaded tasks and 6/12 cfl will be a nail in a coffin.
 
KazeoHin said:
Personally I think your conclusion was too soft.

AMD only now achieved maxwell high-end performance per watt.

Let that sink in.

Nvidia managed to produce cards that perform simillarly (the 980 Ti and Titan Xm) using an EOL process node, stock-standard GDDR5, and two and a half years ahead. Vega is a complete failure as far as I'm concerned, not from a consumer standpoint, as pricing can always save a product, but from a 'faith in AMD' standpoint. NVidia's rumoured to release Volta before Christmas, and AMD will have nothing, NOTHING to show for all the time we waited.

Ugh.. at least Ryzen is awesome...
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a public conclusion as that, would start another AMD vs [H]OCP fight.. better keep playing nice with AMD and let the reviews, numbers and data destroy the GPUs by itself as this own review did with the BS marketing about minimums and freesync range published by AMD.
 
Vega sucks period AND it's priced too high. It should have been given a HardOCP 'spaceheater' award.

It's that shit, leaky GF 14nm process which is to blame. I'd love to see a Vega made on TSMC's process just like an nVidia card. Then we could see a real comparison of their architectures. Ryzen only looks good because intel have been sleepy for the past five years, it's also crippled by GF's crappy 14nm node.

Navi + Zen2 on 7nm will be interesting but until then it's all Bullshit marketing from AMD... We're back my arse, they are showing promise but they certainly ain't back till 7nm. That's if GF can be trusted that is, if not AMD is gonna have to divorce GloFo (is that even possible?) and go with Samsung or TSMC.
 
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thingi said:
It's that shit, leaky GF 14nm process which is to blame. I'd love to see a Vega made on TSMC's process just like an nVidia card. Then we could see a real comparison of their architectures. Ryzen only looks good because intel have been sleepy for the past five years, it's also crippled by GF's crappy 14nm node.
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nVidia didn't seem to have a problem with it for the 1050 and 1050ti...
 
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