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Unlocked clocks of Navi through soft power play tables which got 1900mhz on 5700. 5700xt was within 2fps of a 2080. Power consumption increased by 50w and did not skyrocket like Vega does.
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Sorry for asking this, cannot view youtube atm, is that 2 fps on average?Unlocked clocks of Navi through soft power play tables which got 1900mhz on 5700. 5700xt was within 2fps of a 2080. Power consumption increased by 50w and did not skyrocket like Vega does.
Unlocked clocks of Navi through soft power play tables which got 1900mhz on 5700. 5700xt was within 2fps of a 2080. Power consumption increased by 50w and did not skyrocket like Vega does.
Sorry for asking this, cannot view youtube atm, is that 2 fps on average?
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One game. Shadow of the Tomb Raider. More info needed to come to a conclusion but looks good for custom cooling and AIB cards for sure.
How absurd are you going to be?
It's almost as if you will post anything no matter how absurd, if you think it wins you an argument. Please quit jamming up a Radeon RX 5700 Series thread. You are starting arguments with people about known facts... just to jamm this thread up. Obvious is obvious
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Pictures are worth a thousand of your lies.
Hey bro, don't conveniently skip over post #289. Simply not fair to everyone if you won't reconsile.
As for Monitors..?...G-Sync is dead, good luck with your Monitor... mine is for sale shortly (Acer x34 g-sync).
His XT was not a review sample. AMD only Sampled him the vanilla version apparently.Hopefully it isn't just a golden sample but more of an average, in that case, it will match a 2070S in terms of performance according to AnandTech, 2070S is within 2FPS of 2080 in 4K.
Sure if you are expecting to play at 4k. But If you have a 1080p monitor (which most gamers do), then the 2060 Super can deliver 80-100 FPS with DXR enabled in the first group of RT enabled games, as I indicated earlier in the thread:
AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT and RX 5700 Review Roundup
That isn't a joke, nor marginal.
There seems to a few people that will insist you must play at 4K, so RTX is not viable, and further seem to think developers have peaked in RT optimization, and some even believe it actually gets worse from here.
The reality is that most of us play on 1080p, and even a 2060 Super can deliver decent RT performance there. Developers are going to get better over time in optimizing RT performance. We already have Doom Eternal developers saying how much better their Vulkan RT implementation is going to be.
Doom Eternal and CP 2077 are two VERY big titles with RT support announced, and IIRC you get two RT enabled games included as well. Maybe CP 2077 will hit the 2060 Super too hard, but from what the Doom Eternal devs have said, I expect it will be quite good for that.
I don't play 5 different games a week, not even 5 different games a month, more like that in a year. If it has a couple of RT games included to mess with until Doom Eternal, and CP 2077 launch, that is PLENTY for me. Though I would probably just be catching up on Witcher 3 for quite a while.
Have you missed Quake 2 RTX? That's the actual state of ray tracing today. There isn't a game on the market with more ray tracing in it. It's a slide show for the most part. A game that was released 22 years ago.
Please stop abusing the forum and telling us what to buy, and why. You and GoodBoy are no better than juangra.
I mean it's easy to use the ignore feature but then I'll still have to read your non-sense when I am not logged in. Just stop with the propaganda please
Have you missed Quake 2 RTX? That's the actual state of ray tracing today. There isn't a game on the market with more ray tracing in it. It's a slide show for the most part. A game that was released 22 years ago.
Please stop abusing the forum and telling us what to buy, and why. You and GoodBoy are no better than juangra.
I mean it's easy to use the ignore feature but then I'll still have to read your non-sense when I am not logged in. Just stop with the propaganda please
Have you missed Quake 2 RTX? That's the actual state of ray tracing today. There isn't a game on the market with more ray tracing in it. It's a slide show for the most part. A game that was released 22 years ago.
Please stop abusing the forum and telling us what to buy, and why. You and GoodBoy are no better than juangra.
I mean it's easy to use the ignore feature but then I'll still have to read your non-sense when I am not logged in. Just stop with the propaganda please
That's it. I am ignoring all three of you - GoodBoy, Snowdog, IdiotInCharge. God damn shills won't let people make up their own mind. No, we either buy into the RTX crap (it's the physx all over again) or we're making a big mistake because we absolutely need those half-baked bullshit features.
Too bad I''l have to go through your crap when I am not logged.
Quake II RTX is a tech demo that looks and plays gloriously at 1080P 60fps with a RTX2070. I play the snot out of it. You should try it
It's not for everyone tho, bless your heart.
I didn't bother replying because you were already shown you were wrong by one of snowdogs posts... and as you mentioned, it's "jamming up the thread"
4096x2160 This is a 4K Cimena resolution.
3840x2160 This is a 4K display and TV resolution
2560x1440 This is 2.5K basically, i've seen 2560x1600 displays simply referred to as 2K
2048x1536 This is 4:3 aspect, no one cares about. Your picture must be of tv projector resolutions or something... its woefully incomplete and n/a to whatever brought the discussion to this point.
2048x1152 This would be a 2K resolution, but basically non-standard and hard to find.
1920x1080 Would you believe it, this is also a 2k resolution?
Enough, drop it. If you bring this up or try to troll me again about it, I will not respond. It isn't really relevant to the thread and I got no idea how we even got here.
My next monitor will have to have G-Sync, it does a great job and I want to keep the benefits. I don't want a "TV" with freesync, I want a gaming lcd for my pc.
Well, this I agree with. We are in an AMD thread and the longer these cards are out, the better they are becoming and overclocking is working great on them. Applying a powerplay table mod on the XT can get you up 2200 Mhz. (Timmy Joe Youtube channel.) I do not need one but I sure do want one.
It's game that's been sold. RT is the tech demo aspect you're referring to. And that aspect, when maxed out, makes the game unplayable. I highly doubt the 60 fps but even it's true, 60 is literally half the fps I need when playing.
You may be firmly in the G-Sync camp, but taking a cheap shot at one of the best gaming LCDs on the market that Samsung just happens to call a TV is BS.My next monitor will have to have G-Sync, it does a great job and I want to keep the benefits. I don't want a "TV" with freesync, I want a gaming lcd for my pc.
taking a cheap shot at one of the best gaming LCDs on the market that Samsung just happens to call a TV is BS.
Have you missed Quake 2 RTX? That's the actual state of ray tracing today. There isn't a game on the market with more ray tracing in it. It's a slide show for the most part. A game that was released 22 years ago.
It's Sat, so I am not going to use my time here.
But in reading since my last visit, it seems the same usual suspects heralding the RTX features in an AMD thread. I would think, if they were truly THAT excited, then they would be over in the RTX threads, & all discussing the virtues of "RTX on" gaming and all the nuances that details, etc. But not here in a NAVI thread, because People who are interested in discussion here, have already seen through nvidia's gimmicks.
AMD outclassed Nvidia and used actual hard work and a customer approuch to do it. NAVI is a gamer chip... SUPER is not.
I always say, a video is worth a thousand posts, so:
It's Sat, so I am not going to use my time here.
But in reading since my last visit, it seems the same usual suspects heralding the RTX features in an AMD thread. I would think, if they were truly THAT excited, then they would be over in the RTX threads, & all discussing the virtues of "RTX on" gaming and all the nuances that details, etc. But not here in a NAVI thread, because People who are interested in discussion here, have already seen through nvidia's gimmicks.
AMD outclassed Nvidia and used actual hard work and a customer approuch to do it. NAVI is a gamer chip... SUPER is not.
Using a 55" panel when talking about monitors is a pretty cheap shot too, despite how nice said TV is
The smell of viral marketing is strong in this thread.
There are some comparable FreeSync panels (exact same as their G-snyc Brethren) but it's hard to argue that what I said was wrong...
All the features I listed have been publicly tested by both reviewers and users, and while yes 55" is the smaller one, it's also a 4k screen that cost less then most 32'" 1440P "GAMING LCDs" as he phrased it WHILE offering the same or better feature set.
That makes it the best value in the gaming LCD industry...
PS, I have the 65" (but I get why you started with the smaller one)...
That makes it the best value in the gaming LCD industry...
PS, I have the 65" (but I get why you started with the smaller one)...
Yup. I have a 65" 1080p plasma business monitor. Looks good (for 1080 at that size) when gaming but really needs a huge room and some comfy furniture. Not to mention a friend to help move it. So yeah. I am with majority of the PC gaming world using 1080p.The challenge is the size. that's not going to work for a lot of people- 32" is already on the large size of average. I'm not arguing the quality, just that it's a poor comparison to what most people use as monitors.
I think those videos are how almost everybody feels at this moment. Many now get why AMD's Dr Lisa Su was so boisterous because she knows AMD has all the cards. Some tech review journalist and trying to be polite to Jensen.
Navi is nearly equal to power as the Radeon VII and only cost $349 (and able to go lower). Aftermarket Navi is coming and will put Nvidia to shame, seeing the new "workarounds" and Navi hitting 2.2Ghz already on air... And newer drivers are coming.
These are all truths and the new reality. I don't hold interest in either, but as a gamer and someone who pays for their hardware.... I can clearly see the reviews and you'd almost have to be a moron not to choose Navi over Turing, in almost any buying situation. Navi has higher performance... seems weird to say, but 30+ reviews now show this to be the case. There is no spinning this anymore.
Price for price AMD wins easily, given it outperforms RTX.
There are great deals even at Microcenter with $50 bucks off.... while Nvidia's SUPERs (though not even being distributed in numbers, have high prices and can not be found at their retail prices. AMD wins, because even the distributors months ago found out the truth. Navi is an uber win and RDNA was well hidden on Industry... and still unfolding before our eyes.
Here is another video that will anger people, because they have an emotional investment in playing forum wars, instead of being a hardware junky and gamer.
The all new Radeon RX 5700 XT is powered by the forward-looking Radeon DNA architecture. Able to hardness
-Asynchronous Compute
-Radeon Image Sharpening
-FidelityFX
-TressFX
-TrueAudio Next
-VR technologies
For maximum performance and enhanced gaming experiences.
RDNA features up to 40 completely redesigned Compute Units delivering incredible performance and up to 4x IPC improvements, new instructions better suited for visual effects such as volumetric lighting, blur effects, and depth of field, and multi-level cache hierarchy for greatly reduced latency and highly responsive gaming. The RDNA architecture enables DisplayPort 1.4 with Display Stream Compression for extreme refresh rates and resolutions on cutting edge displays for insanely immersive gameplay.
Bring home the win with Radeon DNA, Radeon Anti-lag, PCI Express 4.0 support, DisplayPort 1.4, GDDR6 memory, 7nm architecture, and True Audio Next. All built into the Radeon 5700 XT Series GPU.
Command your gaming experience.
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I can't wait to play Battlefield on my new x570 mATX build. Going to grab a new 38" 3840 x 1600 FreeSync2.0 Monitor and grab an aftermarket Twinfrozr 5700xt to push that panel until big-navi hits. Then swap it out and stuff navi into a secondary gaming rig @ 1440p.
Seeing some of these unlocked Navi's now... I think AMD used a blower just so they didn't have to lie in the Computex Navi announcement slides. Showing how slow Navi is...
Is this sarcasm or does this exist?!
The monitors have been announced for some time, but so far look to be in the US$2000 range if you're looking for a high refresh rate version. The slow version can be had for about US$900.
I don't recalled any Freesync 2 model(s) being announce for 3840x1600, do see it for 3440x1440 monitors though.
Indeed, I just hope by the time I need my next monitor upgrade, microled monitors will become readily available.Just the allusion to a Freesync model to follow in 2020, after the G-Sync model, from LG. If they ever arrive.