AMD pushes back on Tiger Lake with Cezanne mobile CPUs

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All specifications for the new Cezanne and Lucienne parts:
https://www.techpowerup.com/275702/amd-ryzen-5000-mobile-series-specifications-leaked

AMD really is not giving TGL any slack, even when Renoir already performs well against Intel's new CPUs.

Again the even 2nd digit is Zen 3 and the odd is Zen 2.
5400u: A 4/8 part that will likely match the new 4/8 Intel parts in most test.
5600u: This will likely match or destroy the high end Intel parts in all tests, save maybe igpu.
5800u: Likely a unicorn product like the 4800u, but yeah, should be a beast.

The 5300u (4/8), 5500u (6/12), and 5700u (8/16), all have nice clock boosts and igpu improvements over the older Renoir series.
 

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Early look at some of the H series Cezanne parts:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.to...md-ryzen-5-5600h-cezanne-zen-3-cpu-benchmarks

The 4600H is already strong against the 10750H.
https://www.techspot.com/review/2027-amd-ryzen-4600h/

The performance boost of Cezanne should be able to match the 6 and 8 core TGL-H parts when they are eventually released.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.to...1th-gen-core-i7-11370h-tiger-lake-h-benchmark

Looks like both AMD and Intel will have very strong parts in the H series.
 

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Good luck finding one. Supposedly most of AMDs capacity at TSMC goes to consoles. They can introduce all the products they want, they can't supply the demand.
 

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looks like rocket lake gonna beat cezanne to the punch

RL availability estimated late march.

I expect RL to at least beat ryzen 4000g
 

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looks like rocket lake gonna beat cezanne to the punch

RL availability estimated late march.

I expect RL to at least beat ryzen 4000g

Maybe so, but perhaps more importantly, higher Cezanne parts are looking to beat high core count TGL-H to the performance mobile market.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88262-amd-claims-fastest-mobile-cpu-title-ryzen-mobile.html

Check out TPUs feed as well. Performance laptop manufactures are already switching to AMD. They want more than 4 cores and do not want to blow their power envelope on CML-H nor fart around waiting for higher core TGL-H.
 

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no mention of desktop APU.

meh

I'm not looking to overspend for an AMD laptop. Desktop for me only, and it looks like AMD is still gonna have supply issues.
 

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I thought I saw the desktop apus mentioned. I tend to pay little attention to these products from AMD because I doubt they can supply the different markets. Odds are OEM only for some things.
 

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Cezanne H series desktops dominates as expected and Asus even managed to stuff it in a 13" ultrabook.

TGL is expected to get an 8 core part to replace the 8 core CML-H eventually, but for now, AMD is dominates on all mobile form factors.
 
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based on that topology diagram, AMD could have updated their multimedia engines.

but there are no major improvements in vega
 

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Looks good but I'm also interested in battery life tests, which appear to be missing

If you know the power consumption of the application (w) and the battery rating (w/h) you should be able to math it relatively close.
 

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If you know the power consumption of the application (w) and the battery rating (w/h) you should be able to math it relatively close.
Good point, but I'm less interested in max burn like in a benchmark and more in light usage like web browsing, movie watching, netflix/youtube...
 

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Still waiting to see availability. Might not be worth even looking for one if specs are all over the place and its hard to find the good ones (nice screen etc)
 

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More Cezanne-H goodness with a more popular cpu. Intel launched TGL-H in "special edition" but it is just a 4 core cpu!

 

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chip shortage is severe, so maybe DIY won't get it in time.

i'm impressed that the Intel Xe 96eu beats vega on the cezanne.

i just wish they could squeeze the same thing into alder lake.
alder lake will only have 1/3 the power
 
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chip shortage is severe, so maybe DIY won't get it in time.
If it's like Renoir, grab a chip when there's reports of reputable (European) sellers selling them, if you wait, you'll probably need to buy from Aliexpress.
 

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i'm in no rush to get a chip.

highly likely i'm gonna be getting Alder Lake from Microcenter, if mobos are cheap enough and ddr5 isn't too expensive
 

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would be killer if they didn't cut the igpu in half.

this thing trumps the AMD chips with AV1 hardware decode support
 
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