AMD new Nov drivers are coming

Discussion in 'AMD Flavor' started by fightingfi, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. rabidz7

    rabidz7 [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,238
    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2014
    Maybe this will finally fix the fact that their graphics cards downclock themselves for no reason and don't properly handle multiple resolutions without trying to scale shit... But knowing AMD, this will probably do nothing useful.
     
  2. horrorshow

    horrorshow [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    7,200
    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2007
  3. defaultluser

    defaultluser [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    12,558
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    I read the thread title as AMD new Noisy drivers are coming.

    English much?
     
  4. collegeboy69us

    collegeboy69us [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    5,257
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2003
    Honestly -- who cares anymore?

    They've promised all sorts of crazy shit, but their drivers have always been their weak point. My crossfire 290's are nice and all that, but they are still a pain in the ass long term.

    For me - it's like the boy who cried wolf -- they've said so many times "something awesome is coming' and nothing ever really happens.

    I really like AMD - but holy shit... they aren't making it easy to want to stay in the camp.
     
  5. BloodyIron

    BloodyIron 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    3,440
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2005
    Is this going to include Linux?
     
  6. magoo

    magoo [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    14,366
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2004
    Honestly, all this "Omega" driver stuff is just BS, but at least AMD isn't hiding their driver behind the "GeForce Experience" nonsense, as has been rumored.

    Basically.....nothing to see here.
     
  7. Tuxon86

    Tuxon86 Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    198
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2012
    New and improved! Now with twice the bugs, errr, I meant features :D
     
  8. Brokennails

    Brokennails [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,979
    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2006
    To be fair, haven't seen any reports of their drivers taking out LCD panels.... Could always be worse lol.
     
  9. Darakian

    Darakian [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,699
    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
  10. R0nnieW00d

    R0nnieW00d n00b

    Messages:
    24
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    I just hope they fix the AC4 eyefinity problem
     
  11. calanthe

    calanthe Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    130
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2004
    Nice - look forward to trying these on my new R9 380.
     
  12. Reus

    Reus Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    438
    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2009
    Sounds good to me. I have had my 290X for about a year now, and their Windows drivers have given me zero problems. They do have a long way to go with Linux though.
     
  13. Dayaks

    Dayaks [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    7,211
    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2012
    It's sort of funny/sad that there's a thread because AMD might release drivers. I am still split between a 970 ITX and Fury Nano....
     
  14. Anarchist4000

    Anarchist4000 [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,659
    Joined:
    Jun 10, 2001
    I'm going with Vulkan. So everyone gets the DX12 benefits on <Win10 and other platforms. November 10th is the Steam Box launch date and Valve has dumped a lot of money into supporting Vulkan. If supported by games, it also fixes the driver bottlenecks AMD has been facing.

    Would be a bit odd to release a major yearly driver update and forget about the new "Open" version of the API you have been pushing that addresses most of your major issues going forward.
     
  15. jojo69

    jojo69 [H]ardForum Junkie

    Messages:
    10,397
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2009
    that "omega" driver last year was pretty decent
     
  16. GameLifter

    GameLifter Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    340
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Hopefully these drivers will deliver. I remember when they released the major driver update for the 7000 series cards back in 2012 that gave the 7970 an edge over the 680 in most games. This was after I had already bought the 680. Now that I have a 980Ti I wonder if these drivers will make the Fury X exceed it? Hard to say.

    If only AMD could have more mature drivers around the launch of their cards then they could perform closer to their potential right out of the gate instead of months later after many people have already bought Nvidia cards. Going back to the 7970 and 680 I probably would have gone with the 7970 if the driver was more mature when I was building my PC. Instead I went with the 680 only to get slightly disappointed after seeing AMD release the performance driver for the 7970.
     
  17. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Hoping for freesync over hdmi so we can use freesync on nvidia
     
  18. cageymaru

    cageymaru [H]ard as it Gets

    Messages:
    19,814
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2003
    Truth is that both companies release drivers much later on that make great strides in addressing incompatibilities and increase general speed. Just buy whatever is the fastest and fits your needs when you're ready to purchase. Any additional miracle drivers that come later on are icing on the cake. In another words, don't listen to complainers and fanboys. Use your own brain to digest review numbers and impressions to make your decision.

    Your 680 and 980ti are fine cards and were great choices. If you had went 7970 and Fury X, I wouldn't disparage you for that choice.
     
  19. plexx

    plexx n00b

    Messages:
    42
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2011
    If its anything like their last big Omega driver release i expect to see 10%+ performance increase in current gen cards like Fury X with some games. I remember the Omega release and it was almost like a hardware upgrade for me at the time, the improvement was noticeable without FPS/Performance monitoring software, i could just feel the difference. Lets hope this is a repeat because that was the real deal folks.
     
  20. wantapple

    wantapple Gawd

    Messages:
    601
    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2012
    I got a nano and fury x i haven't experienced any drivers problems or issues at all. I am the only one?
     
  21. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    I have a fury x with another one arriving today. Been a great experience so far really liking the card. I'm actually really impressed with HBM so far once you get to using it, it's clear to see how much better it is than GDDR5. Only thing I'm disappointed in is the OC potential. A few reviews I read showed that an OC to 1150/600 resulted in a 20% performance boost (I can't hit those clocks).
     
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2015
  22. Rauelius

    Rauelius 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    2,240
    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2008
    I don't have issues with my R9-290(@1100/1500) with the latest drivers in either Win10 or Win7. Here's hoping that the 290 gets a boost enough to not need an OC to match my GTX970.
     
  23. Yakk

    Yakk [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    5,810
    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2010
    Still running 2x 280x cards and skipping this gen cause I don't need any upgrade yet. As i wrote elsewhere it's been smooth sailing on the driver front for years for me. An added bonus is the cards performance keeps going up & up steadily which is REALLY awesome IMHO! :)
     
  24. GameLifter

    GameLifter Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    340
    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2014
    Nicely said! You're correct about both companies releasing drivers that increase performance later in a cards life. It happened with the 680 and I'm sure it will happen with the 980Ti.
     
  25. tybert7

    tybert7 2[H]4U

    Messages:
    2,634
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    So what would you all like to see added as a dream feature?


    For me it would be an update that allowed frame duplication in the driver for freesync displays, or at least some select displays. I'd like to have that gsync = superior smirk slapped off the face of Ryan/Allyn over at pcper. It still won't be enough, they'll just shift to some other metrics like overdrive quality you need a slow mo camera to detect or some ethereal notions about the "uncanny valley" of the additional 21 fps granted by the 165Hz gsync display, but this would take away one of the arrows in the quiver used to fire broadsides into amd gpus.
     
  26. KazeoHin

    KazeoHin [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    7,861
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2011
    I would like to see Synced Frame Overdraw.

    Essentially, its an idea I had about reducing the impact of vertical tearing while rendering over your monitor's refresh rate: Essentially, any partially-drawn frames (or frames rendered AFTER the monitor's update cycle) are blended onto the Synced Frame (the frame that was being drawn by the monitor at the beginning of it's refresh) using a 50/50 blend. Any consecutive frames after that are blended 50/50 with the resultant frame, meaning the newest frame always has 50% of the pixel's value. At high refresh-rates (such as 61+FPS for 60Hz monitors, or 145+FPS for 144Hz screens) the 'blur' effect would be negligible, but the effect the technique would have on motion clarity and apparent-tear reduction would be (theoretically) substantial. It would best be combined with A-Sync displays, but nothing really says it needs them.
     
  27. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    As of now for me it would be a freesync update that would allow it to work for both nvidia and amd gpus. In my opinion while it may not be flat out better than g sync I still think it's better. They basically offer the same screens as gsync already and way more that appeal to a much larger crowd. Plus you can mod the range of freesync. Nvidia is the type of company to try and disable something like that on their end too.
     
  28. The Mac

    The Mac [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,492
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    thats not possible, the requisite hardware would need to be in the monitor.

    The gsync module precludes that possibility.
     
  29. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    I don't exactly see why it's impossible or what a gsync module has to do with anything
     
  30. The Mac

    The Mac [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,492
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    in gsync monitors, there is a proprietary nvidia FPGA based scaler board.

    this board would need to support Adaptive Sync,

    Nvidia has no plans of adding the requisite hardware to the board.

    Therefore it would be impossible for AMD to add freesync support through a driver update.
     
  31. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    My original statement was to let nvidia gpus be able to use freesync. Don't see what g sync monitors has anything to do with that. Only reason nvidia can't use freesync now is because they don't have DP 1.2a. They do however have hdmi 2.0 and amd plans to allow freesync over hdmi in the future. Intel will be using freesync in the future.
     
  32. KazeoHin

    KazeoHin [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    7,861
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2011
    I would RATHER Radeon cards be able to use Gsync monitors. I bet if AMD reverse engineered the process they could Frankenstein together something like "GreenSync" that allows AMD cards to utilise the VBlank of Gsync screens to the same effect as ASync.
     
  33. Azzkiker

    Azzkiker Limp Gawd

    Messages:
    353
    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2012
    Been running a 290 Tri-X for over a year without any driver problems. Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, old Baldurs Gate II, War Thunder, Witcher 2... lots of games without a problem.
     
  34. Darakian

    Darakian [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,699
    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2004
    AMD would probably be sued out of existence. If someone on the internet (say some forum user that really wants gsync on radeons) put it together then it might work.
     
  35. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    The problem with that for me is that really aren't many g sync monitors at all (much less one that appeal to me). The biggest one is the 34" 1440p (it just came out) but freesync has the exact same model $300 cheaper. Freesync already has 30-65" 1440p/4k ips/va covered. As far as I'm concerned g sync will never have screens that big
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2015
  36. The Mac

    The Mac [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,492
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    How exactly could an AMD driver update make an Nvidia GPU do anything? magic? telepathy?

    the question was what would your dream feature in the AMD driver contain...

    thats some good shit your smoking...
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2015
  37. Dr3amCast

    Dr3amCast [H]Lite

    Messages:
    91
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2012

    This. So much this. I could not agree more.
     
  38. Tgrove

    Tgrove [H]ard|Gawd

    Messages:
    1,484
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Your really hard headed and annoying. There would also need to be new hardware released for this to happen. AMD has to implement the software to get this rolling at some point, so I can't hope its the one in November?
     
  39. The Mac

    The Mac [H]ardness Supreme

    Messages:
    4,492
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    just...wow...

    AMD CANNOT MAKE DRIVERS THAT EFFECT NViDIA GPUS.

    electronics doesnt work that way,
     
    Last edited: Oct 30, 2015