Who isn't paying attention? You? All you have to do is look to the past my friend. Here, I'll help you.
People are not "salty" ... they are "skeptical" .... big difference between the two.
We heard the same shit with Zen + about AMD "mopping" the floor with Intel.
And who really gives an actual fk about "power savings" .. Listen, if I own a Lambo, I'm gonna put in $4 a gallon high octane fuel and expect to get 5 miles a gallon. I doubt seriously kids are so concerned with saving a few pennies here and there.
But, I have my money ready. I'm a fan for performance, not a brand name.
Let's see how this thing overclocks and benches ...
The salt is pretty clear on this forum. Bunch of fanboys that overpay for hardware and have to justify it with flawed reasoning. Pay your $500 for an extra 5 fps. Everyone needs to stop pushing their buyer's remorse on all of us that just want to enjoy new tech and see what every company has to offer.
You realize Intel has paid shills all over the net, right?
That DEFINITELY explains some of the "salt" and "naysaying".
He was pretty much spot on regarding his Ryzen 3 predictions.
He never said Ryzen 3 would be released at CES.
Nostradamus is the father of astrology. Spew ambiguous bullshit, and leave it to people to distort reality enough to fit some of it. Predicting actual market events and product specifications is a tad more grounded than that. It's not fortune telling, it is educated guessing.
AdoredTV makes two kind of predictions, his own, and those he copies/stoles from elsewhere. The second kind of predictions are usually correct, because aren't made by him. The first kind are plain wrong and the reason why he has been changing his nickname during last decade. AdoredTV is his four identity?
Intel will eventually have to take a page out of AMD's book when it comes to making newer chips with more cores. Why? Because it simply comes down to complexity and the fact that as you try to add more cores to a chip the harder it is to get a good enough batch of chips to sell. You can see this in how the 9900K is so damn expensive. I have no doubt that it's because Intel has to either throw a lot of imperfect chips away or end up disabling cores to make lesser i5s and even lesser i3s.First of all, it's "VERY" important that any potential customer of these AMD chips should absolutely know that AMD uses a multi chip setup with these CPU's .... so the I/O ... the interconnects .. the data pathways between these chips are slower than Intel. There is an inherent latency that AMD faces ... now, these numbers are very low but much higher than Intel. This is why Intel still beats AMD in many benchmarks. Especially games. In fact, nearly all games.
This. As a system becomes more complex (ie. more cores) the more chances of things going wrong during the manufacturing of the chip. The days of monolithic chips are over, we need to transition to multi-module chips (chiplet-based packages) or the cost of making the chips of the future is going to be absolutely hideous.Silicon is at its limits. There isn't a better way to go
no. the proof is in the Zen line. Nice try.Proof of this is in the Xeon line. They aren't expensive just because Intel likes to charge so damn much, it's because chips with that many cores in a monolithic package is [H]ard as fuck to manufacture. I'd not be surprised to see a failure rate of more than 65% and that's being optimistic.
You're right monolithic is old school.Proof of this is in the Xeon line. They aren't expensive just because Intel likes to charge so damn much, it's because chips with that many cores in a monolithic package is [H]ard as fuck to manufacture. I'd not be surprised to see a failure rate of more than 65% and that's being optimistic.
Yep. If we want chips with more cores the industry is going to have to adopt a multi-package or chiplet design or you can kiss the idea of more cores goodbye.You're right monolithic is old school.
its already back and forth. Sorry, i don't see it happening. Should it happen, it will be short.Oh yeah. The shrink will be good for them but more importantly the arch is getting some substantial improvements to. It'll push them back ahead. Ryzen 2 won't be exactly bad then but it won't be the home run either.
AMD is going back and forth with Skylake. AMD's going to need more than the small tweaks from Zen through Zen+ to Zen 2 to take the lead.
No, but I gave names of people published the leaks/predictions before him.
The thing is Intel 10nm is due to finally drop this year...