AMD Announces Athlon APU and 2nd Gen Ryzen Pro Processors

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  1. AlphaAtlas

    AlphaAtlas [H]ard|Gawd Staff Member

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    Today, AMD filled out the bottom of their APU lineup with the Athlon 200GE. The socket AM4 processor features 2 cores and 4 threads that run at a maximum frequency of 3.2Ghz, as well as a Vega IGP with 3 compute units. While the chip has a locked multiplier and no precision boost tech like the Ryzen 3 2200G, at $55 MSRP, it's nearly half the price. AMD also updated their Ryzen Pro processor lineup with the same silicon AMD's 12nm, Zen+ consumer CPUs use. The Athlon 200GE will be available on September 18, with higher frequency Athlons coming later, while the 2nd gen Ryzen Pro processors will show up in OEM systems soon.

    "We are proud to expand our successful 'Zen' core-based consumer and commercial product portfolios today with the addition of AMD Athlon, AMD Athlon PRO, and 2nd Gen AMD Ryzen PRO desktop processors. The new Athlon desktop processors, now incorporating the advanced "Zen" core and "Vega" graphics architectures, energize a legendary processor brand in AMD Athlon - a brand that consumers and PC enthusiasts alike trusted throughout nearly two decades of innovation," said Saeid Moshkelani, senior vice president and general manager, Client Compute, AMD. "Additionally, we are continuing to offer business PC users more processing power than we ever have before with the launch of 2nd Gen Ryzen PRO desktop processors into the commercial market."
     
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    AMD definitely has a broad range of products. Glad they are staying competitive and active.
     
  4. sc5mu93

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    So is the use of the athlon name soley for the purpose of building less than quad core processors? I thought I remember reading that Ryzen (3) branded procs would never go below quad.
     
  5. griff30

    griff30 I Lower the Boom!

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    Something tells me this has 4 cores but 2 are disabled and someone is going to figure out a way to unlock it.

    Good to see them filling in something on the low end
     
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  6. ir0nw0lf

    ir0nw0lf [H]ardness Supreme

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    That would be nice but I am sure they already thought of that and would permanently (physically) disable them.
     
  7. vegeta535

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    They need to not pull a Intel and release 30 different sku and make confusing mess.
     
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  8. Design1stcode2nd

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    This competes with Pentium and had they truly wanted to win that segment this would be an unlocked part. Still it's competitive and the use of Athlon is fine as they want to differentiate the Ryzen 4-8 core processor line from this budget office unit.
     
  9. Zarathustra[H]

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    I'm kind of bummed that the Athlon brand is now a low end part.

    (Well, I mean, it has been for some time now)

    My favorite time tinkering with computers was when the Athlon was a powerhouse, from the launch of the K7 in 1999 to 2006 when Intel launched the Core 2. I feel it's sad that what was once such a strong high end brand name is now relegated to budget status.

    I guess Intel did the same with the Pentium though.
     
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    My first PC had an Athlon, Thunderbird 1ghz. P3 equivalent?
    Can't remember how many I bought over the years for upgrades and side builds.
    Think the highest I went was a XP 3200 or 3000 before I jumped to a II X2 for my short lived major rebuild that later got recycled to a HTPC.
     
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  11. Unibomber13

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    I am really feeling nostalgic now. I just may need a little new Athlon pc to play with this winter.:)
     
  12. Zarathustra[H]

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    I can't remember what happened with all my stuff from that era.

    For the longest time I had a huge parts bin with video cards, sound cards, cases, etc.

    Wish I had kept that stuff for old times sake.


    Edit:

    Oh right, my basement flooded :(
     
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    Sounds about right.
    Welcome to the retirement wall for stuff no longer used or waiting to be reused.
    And ouch about your basement flood.
    PICT0019.jpg
     
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    nice, I guess if the A4 5300 I have running in a FTP server ever dies this would be a worthwhile replacement
     
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    Definitely a budget part but +1 for nostalgia.

    Went from a slot A athlon 600mhz (first home build ever) to the
    T-bird and it was AMAZING.
     
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    Nice, I've been thinking of rebuilding our little ITX HTPC as the Athlon 5350 in there now is feeling a bit slow. Not sure if this is really worth considering versus a 2200G, big difference in GPU capability.
     
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    Too bad there aren't any decent, cheap ITX motherboards to go with it. I might be wanting to replace my AM1 media PC, but can't spend too much on it. I had bought the Asrock AM1H-ITX and the AM1 quad core for about a total of $75. I'd love to have something comparable, even having to spend a little more money, but right now, the cheapest ITX AM4 motherboard I can find is close to $100, and requires a power supply.
     
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    All the athlon am4 chips have integrated graphics right?

    Also, what is the point of the ryzen pro CPUs?
     
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    Ryzen pro cpus have security features to apppeal to business. Other than that a slight clock speed difference.
     
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    Yeah, not sure about the consumer use for the straight Ryzen Pro CPUs, but for the APUs the Pro versions appear to be needed for ECC, which is a departure from the rest of the line.

    I've thought about those for a fileserver, where ECC would be desirable as would the GPU, but implementations have yet to really be sorted.
     
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    Can't say I'm not a little bummed that these are locked CPUs.

    I know at this price it doesn't really matter, but as a matter of principle I really liked the concept of AMD not locking things down like Intel does.

    I honestly think AMD would have a real winner if the 2200G were $75 and the 2400G $100.

    I guess we just aren't there yet.
     
  22. Kdawg

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    so where the fuck are the powerful amd laptops?
     
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  23. IdiotInCharge

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    Where are the low-power AMD CPUs?

    Remember that your point of comparison is the 8550U ;)
     
  24. Gigantopithecus

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    ThinkPad A485s with Ryzen 3, 5, and 7 chips are now available preconfigured through Provantage, Newegg, etc. The configurable A485 says "coming soon" on Lenovo's website. I think the R5/7 models qualify as "powerful" if you're interested in productivity. As for "powerful" gaming laptops, I don't know as I don't care, but I bet there are Ryzen 5/7-powered laptops with some sort of dGPU in them.
     
  25. funkydmunky

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    Sad they are locked. I'm not sure what they are protecting by doing that. Maybe it is simply because of the designated market (OEM office type) that they don't want the hassle of noobs tinkering on systems with extremely limited cooling solutions.
     
  26. Mega6

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    I think you got it, procs for business locked.
     
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    720p low end online games.
     
  29. Pieter3dnow

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    https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-a-series/c/thinkpada?menu-id=ThinkPad_A

    Not to sure there are really a good deal of laptops which feature a cpu which does more then 35 Watt. A285 is listed as using Ryzen 5 PRO (1600 1500 65Watt) (2400G 65Watt 2400GE 35Watt).

    That is not that Lenovo won't TDP limit them for whatever reason any OEM can do that.

    AMD can use Athlon but for marketing purposes it is not really relevant for the current market.
     
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    I can only assume this is aimed at the oem/biz class cheapo desktop market. I mean, I thought the 2200g was low end at $80. But I bet this thing will do word and excel all the live long day.
     
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    I also have a mini itx AM1 5350 build :) great little power sippers.
     
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    Have to go here for the business procs. That page is all budget consumer. That said, those are probably locked too.
     
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    A low price CPU doesn't make much sense to most folks because of the fucking RAM prices these days........................................
     
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    This is great for Grandma's PC.
     
  35. funkydmunky

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    iGPU wise I wonder how it stacks up to its intended competition? 2133 or 2400MHz would be the most likely pairing of RAM.
     
  36. Krenum

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    Could be a cool little cpu for an emulator build.
     
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