AMD Allegedly Launching Ryzen 5000 Zen 3 Desktop CPU With 5 GHz+ Clocks, Announcement Planned For 15th February

the_real_7

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Journalism doesnt pay; clicks and adds pay. ergo, the internet is 99% hot garbage.
is not like it was back 10 years ago , anything they see they post is for hits only , forums are the only truth source of documented info
 

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It would certainly be curious for AMD to release both Ryzen and Epyc Zen 3 -versions at the same time. I always thought that Epyc will be released first in the same vein as Nvidia always releases Titans first to reap maximum profit and only at the later date those GPUs that have a lower profit margin. It has been rumored already a while that Ryzen Zen 3 will be released at the end of Q4 this year.
 

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It would certainly be curious for AMD to release both Ryzen and Epyc Zen 3 -versions at the same time. I always thought that Epyc will be released first in the same vein as Nvidia always releases Titans first to reap maximum profit and only at the later date those GPUs that have a lower profit margin. It has been rumored already a while that Ryzen Zen 3 will be released at the end of Q4 this year.
Zen 3 is already out 🙂
 

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Zen 3 is already out 🙂
I was in the understanding that Zen 3 was postponed due to covid-19 to late Q1/2021 release.
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It would certainly be curious for AMD to release both Ryzen and Epyc Zen 3 -versions at the same time. I always thought that Epyc will be released first in the same vein as Nvidia always releases Titans first to reap maximum profit and only at the later date those GPUs that have a lower profit margin. It has been rumored already a while that Ryzen Zen 3 will be released at the end of Q4 this year.

I was in the understanding that Zen 3 was postponed due to covid-19 to late Q1/2021 release.View attachment 329255

However... there might be some(?) Ryzen 5950's prior to that, if they f*ck up their production of Epyc 7713s and are stuck up with a chiplet w/ only 2 working CCDs

Zen 3 based Ryzen 5000 cpu's have literally been on sale for months now. Many people here on the forum have gotten one. Or are you referring to Zen 3 Threadripper? I'm confused.
 

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Zen 3 based Ryzen 5000 cpu's have literally been on sale for months now. Many people here on the forum have gotten one. Or are you referring to Zen 3 Threadripper? I'm confused.
Like you can see on AMD's roadmap graph. I intend to buy a gigabyte MZ72-HB0 -mobo and stick two pieces of Epyc 7543 -processors on it, but have been unable to get my hands on any of them. Ryzen 5000 or threadripper do not work for me, because they are 1P -processors and gigabyte MZ72-HB0 requires two Epyc 1P/2P -processors.
 
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From what I've gathered, CTR 2.1 is going to drop on Monday the 15th I think, and will be tuning our Ryzen 5000 series CPU's to 5Ghz+, assuming you have a ideal conditions.

*edit* ^ Yup.

CTR 2.1 & 5000MHz!

Clock Tuner for Ryzen 2.1 to get enhanced PX Profile


So this is an unofficial tool and not connected to AMD officially at all? Or is it one of those "official relation/partnership/dev-contribution, but no warranty hey don't blame us or expect anything" situations? Any chance its open source and OS agnostic (or at least offers a Linux version as well) ? I know the new version is Patreon only from that announcement, but I know some FOSS applications such as the Yuzu emulator that release their newest builds to donators first etc. If not, it would be nice if there was a comparable open utility.
 

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It's unofficial, but the developer is legitimate. He's under NDA from AMD so there is some relationship there. Source is closed due to that NDA.
 

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Ahh. Too bad its proprietary. That's always a major frustration; it shouldn't require specific software much less proprietary software in order to get the most out of your CPU. Does this software generally work better than other either UEFI/BIOS management or other software (RyzenMaster? Something FOSS?) for managing the performance of Zen3 chips? Much like their open source Linux driver stack (100% open source base including 3D performance, or that same open source base for 90% of it + proprietary extensions in a binary blob for the last 10% ), or their championing of open standards like FreeSync , AMD's openness will win them great acclaim. If their latest CPUs require advanced scheduling or other features to maximize their performance and efficiency, it would be ideal if they could release this stuff openly and platform independent.
 

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Ahh. Too bad its proprietary. That's always a major frustration; it shouldn't require specific software much less proprietary software in order to get the most out of your CPU. Does this software generally work better than other either UEFI/BIOS management or other software (RyzenMaster? Something FOSS?) for managing the performance of Zen3 chips? Much like their open source Linux driver stack (100% open source base including 3D performance, or that same open source base for 90% of it + proprietary extensions in a binary blob for the last 10% ), or their championing of open standards like FreeSync , AMD's openness will win them great acclaim. If their latest CPUs require advanced scheduling or other features to maximize their performance and efficiency, it would be ideal if they could release this stuff openly and platform independent.
What.
 

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The developer claims it's better than turning on PBO and tuning curve optimizer, and it does all the work for you, but you need to keep the program resident 100% of the time in the background. When I tried it my computer instantly crashed, so I don't have any personal experience with it.

What I really want is a program that tests all the various settings in PBO and curve optimizer and makes recommendations for BIOS settings so I don't have to keep it running all the time. Just IMO.
 

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The developer claims it's better than turning on PBO and tuning curve optimizer, and it does all the work for you, but you need to keep the program resident 100% of the time in the background. When I tried it my computer instantly crashed, so I don't have any personal experience with it.

What I really want is a program that tests all the various settings in PBO and curve optimizer and makes recommendations for BIOS settings so I don't have to keep it running all the time. Just IMO.
Those are very exaggerated claims.
I have tried all betas so far. Its interesting but far from useful for me at least. For instance, you get this settings from the program auto tune and it all looks great then try a quick blender bmw and pc reboots. CSGO... Reboots.. Photoshop.. Reboots.
By the time I keep tweaking it, the small performance gains over my pbo co settings are gone.
Plus Some stuff like cpuz benchmarks are not compatible and of course that begs the question what else has issues.
I'm keeping an eye on it as it evolves but at this point in time, it's just not there for my real world usage.
 

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^ Hmm.

It took my CineBench score from like 6012 to 6310, likewise on single thread (forget the numbers), while showing it did so at a lower voltage. And I didn't have to do shit. And it's free.

Looking forward to working with v2.1 to get a few cores I see hitting 4850Mhz even higher with more voltage? I found it odd that it seems the 5800X will turbo to 4850Mhz all core, yet my scores w/ CTR at 4700Mhz all core are faster. Need to pay attention better to the "effective clock" more in HWInfo.
 

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^ Hmm.
Guess if you don't know how to do PBO and CO then you can get some improvement from CTR over stock or bad bios overclock.
But at this point, unless you want to brag about specific benchmarks with CTR, PBO+CO is superior.
 
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