AMD 1800+ (Palamino) shutdowns under load

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RedChief

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I have a AMD 1800+ (Palamino) on a Asus A7V400-MX MB. A few days ago it started shutting down when under a load (in this case, running Everquest). Using the PC Wizard 2005 to check the temp, it had been running in the high 60s (as high as 70 at times). I put a Aeromax heatsink/fan on the cpu and the temp droped to the high 50's/low 60s, but even after a extended period the system still shutsdown.

Could the processor just be toast? (if so, I'm glad frys has deals...)
 
My old 2000+ used to do that too. How's airflow in your case? Dust everywhere? Fans working? Maybe it's your vid card overheating. Running 60s on the proc is a little hot anyway. What are your open-case temps like?
 
what PSU are you running? make, model and rated output. if you have an ultra or other flakey PSU, that would be a prime candidate for generating crashes on a proc running stock speed and warm, but well within spec temps. i don't think that you CPU temp is anything to worry about at all, if you aren't OCing or anything else to make the CPU unhappy.

to test the processor: run prime 95 torture test, with the test type set to blend. if that errors out, then the proc/mobo/memory is making math errors. troubleshooting from there depends on what you get as a result. if the computer shuts down, heat and/or flakey power are likely the source of your problem.
 
Open case temps are in high 30's.

The power supply is a CoolMax CX-400 (400w, 3.3volt-30amp, 5v-40a, 12v-18a). Video card is a ATI Radeon 9800pro (requires external power from PS), 1x CD rom drive (rarely used), one 40 gig HD, two 80 gig HDs, a Siig IDE Raid card (80 gig drives are mirrored). 3x80mm case fans (1 front, 2 back), 2 sticks of 512meg DDR.

The Asus A7V400-MX does not allow for any over clocking.

No dust in the case.
 
RedChief said:
I have a AMD 1800+ (Palamino) on a Asus A7V400-MX MB. A few days ago it started shutting down when under a load (in this case, running Everquest). Using the PC Wizard 2005 to check the temp, it had been running in the high 60s (as high as 70 at times). I put a Aeromax heatsink/fan on the cpu and the temp droped to the high 50's/low 60s, but even after a extended period the system still shutsdown.

Could the processor just be toast? (if so, I'm glad frys has deals...)
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sounds like your motherboard's cpu overheat protection is kicking in. you should check the bios for the temp its set to kick in at. high 50s/low 60s is pretty high even for a palamino.
 
maybe reapply heatsink to cpu? maybe not enough arctic silver or whatever thermal paste you use?
 
maybe this is a shutdown due to overheat.

if you dont want it to automatically shutdown, go to bios and increase the "shutdown" temp to around 70-75.

but i would suggest you get a better cooling solution first, like heatsinks from Thermalright plus a decent fan will give you very good results, get it down in the 35-45 range. running constant 50-60 is still pretty high imo...
 
I agree that overheating is the first suspect, since Palominos run so hot.

Shut down, remove power and thoroughly clean your case internals. Use a paint brush to loosen dust and vacuum it out. Clean all heatsinks. Clean all fan blades - particularly any brown-gunk accumulation on the leading edge of fan-blades (Windex with paper towels and/or Q-tips). Make sure your CPU heatsink fins are clean as new. If you have case air filters, clean them or simply remove them.

Hope ths helps!
 
Fry's had a deal this weekend on a AMD Sempron 2600+ECS MB for $70 so I picked it up. I reinstalled the OS (Win2k Server), patches, etc.

And upon loading EQ, it shut down the system after about 3-4 minutes. Now, the only thing that was now swapped out was the Radeon 9800 Pro vid card. I've never heard of a over heated vid card shutting down a system, just locking it up. Oh, and I did run Prime95 torture test for about 20+ minutes w/o a problem.
 
RedChief said:
Fry's had a deal this weekend on a AMD Sempron 2600+ECS MB for $70 so I picked it up. I reinstalled the OS (Win2k Server), patches, etc.

And upon loading EQ, it shut down the system after about 3-4 minutes. Now, the only thing that was now swapped out was the Radeon 9800 Pro vid card. I've never heard of a over heated vid card shutting down a system, just locking it up. Oh, and I did run Prime95 torture test for about 20+ minutes w/o a problem.
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ouch, be sure to take a look at the video card fan to make sure its working. as for running prime95 for 20minutes thats really not enough to say your system is stable.. i usually run it for 24+ hours on a new system..
 
I figured the 20 min of prime95 beat up the system a lot more then 3-4 minutes of a game. I'm going to take the micro fan off the vid card heat sink and mount a cpu fan off a stock AMD heatsink (perfect size to screw on).
 
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