Am I the only one that misses spare batteries?

Should we go back to having spare batteries to swap?

  • That would be good.

    Votes: 33 39.3%

  • They should use normal batteries so we can get spare rechargeables.

    Votes: 5 6.0%

  • Meh. I don't mind having to plug the phone in.

    Votes: 46 54.8%
  • Total voters
    84
I used to, but now I find that I upgrade so damn often that I don't care anymore. Bigger initial capacity would certainly help though, constantly streaming music hours will force most phones on a double recharge cycle per day.
 
I think the farthest down I ever got my old iPhone 4s was like 34% and that was a brutal day of usage. On a typical day I go to work at 100% and come home at like 92%. Oh noes, 8% battery gone what shall I do?

If they took the touchscreen, apps, Facebook, wifi, and messaging out of an iPhone I'm sure it would run for days too. And I'd never want to use it.

I'll take what I have.
 
JayJapanB said:
Most people are stupid.
I'm not going to put an ugly ass case on my phone.
If you have the disposable income for a smartphone in the first place be less of a pleb about it.

Another pro tip: don't have kids. They'll wreck your things.
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Not all cases are ugly

also to his point of there is no proof cases help... there are dozens of videos of people testing the cases on phones and sometimes destroying phones. One guy puts his iphone 4s in a otterbox armor and throws it upward 20 feet after throwing it like 30 feet then throws it into a pond then kicks it several blocks phone not damaged case protected it...

If i did not have a tpu case i liked on my phone already i would have bought the 10,000 mAh zero lemon battery for my note 3
 
Lunas said:
Not all cases are ugly
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Unless you are talking about this one, I disagree.

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Lunas said:
One guy puts his iphone 4s in a otterbox armor and throws it upward 20 feet after throwing it like 30 feet then throws it into a pond then kicks it several blocks phone not damaged case protected it...
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So it's designed for extreme epileptics? I'm good with my naked phone then...
 
Obviously you bought the snake oil and is refusing to believe in facts. How many smartphones sold and how many cases sold? Or many people buy smartphone accessories and what's the percentage of that is cases? Are you still buying that most people buy cases? Not even half of smartphone owners buy an accessory of any kind, and for those who do, it's mostly headphones or headsets (search NPD).

Two, you honestly believe that 2-3mm of plastic or rubber protection that only surrounds a fragile device on 3 sides would be able to provide enough protection for a drop? This is akin to believing silencers on guns actually silences the gun. A silencer may be able to reduce 30 decibels, but a pistol fires at a minimum of 160 decibels, and 130 dB is still loud. Whatever protection you think that thin rubber or plastic could help you is simply not enough shock absorption to help from an impact. Sure, there are those extreme thick foam protection cases with handles for children; I'm not arguing about that. If you go to a repair, ask them how many screens got cracked inside a case.
 
CHANG3D said:
Obviously you bought the snake oil and is refusing to believe in facts. How many smartphones sold and how many cases sold? Or many people buy smartphone accessories and what's the percentage of that is cases? Are you still buying that most people buy cases? Not even half of smartphone owners buy an accessory of any kind, and for those who do, it's mostly headphones or headsets (search NPD).

Two, you honestly believe that 2-3mm of plastic or rubber protection that only surrounds a fragile device on 3 sides would be able to provide enough protection for a drop? This is akin to believing silencers on guns actually silences the gun. A silencer may be able to reduce 30 decibels, but a pistol fires at a minimum of 160 decibels, and 130 dB is still loud. Whatever protection you think that thin rubber or plastic could help you is simply not enough shock absorption to help from an impact. Sure, there are those extreme thick foam protection cases with handles for children; I'm not arguing about that. If you go to a repair, ask them how many screens got cracked inside a case.
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Citation required.
 
CHANG3D said:
Obviously you bought the snake oil and is refusing to believe in facts. How many smartphones sold and how many cases sold? Or many people buy smartphone accessories and what's the percentage of that is cases? Are you still buying that most people buy cases? Not even half of smartphone owners buy an accessory of any kind, and for those who do, it's mostly headphones or headsets (search NPD).

Two, you honestly believe that 2-3mm of plastic or rubber protection that only surrounds a fragile device on 3 sides would be able to provide enough protection for a drop? This is akin to believing silencers on guns actually silences the gun. A silencer may be able to reduce 30 decibels, but a pistol fires at a minimum of 160 decibels, and 130 dB is still loud. Whatever protection you think that thin rubber or plastic could help you is simply not enough shock absorption to help from an impact. Sure, there are those extreme thick foam protection cases with handles for children; I'm not arguing about that. If you go to a repair, ask them how many screens got cracked inside a case.
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Yes I belive that my trident kraken on my note 3 can not only protect from drops but it gives splash protection of a limited amount and very much so prevents scratches I would say it even saved my screen already as the day I got it it slipped from my pocket and landed screen down but you go ahead run naked and try to be careful with your phone as to not drop it on its corners or edges I'll be waiting for the thread asking about replacing the laminated glued and pressed together screens on your phone.

Radio shed pays on commission with cell phone we were trained to push accessories the minimal I would push was an otter box commuter not too much bulk but the silicon and the hard plastic definitely give it some drop protection.

The not ugly one with the suggestive theme is the style I tend to agree with you it is only good vs scratching and for covering the apple logo my s3 came with one similar while I liked the slim form I could tell it was only for scratch resistances.
 
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CHANG3D said:
Obviously you bought the snake oil and is refusing to believe in facts. How many smartphones sold and how many cases sold? Or many people buy smartphone accessories and what's the percentage of that is cases? Are you still buying that most people buy cases? Not even half of smartphone owners buy an accessory of any kind, and for those who do, it's mostly headphones or headsets (search NPD).

Two, you honestly believe that 2-3mm of plastic or rubber protection that only surrounds a fragile device on 3 sides would be able to provide enough protection for a drop? This is akin to believing silencers on guns actually silences the gun. A silencer may be able to reduce 30 decibels, but a pistol fires at a minimum of 160 decibels, and 130 dB is still loud. Whatever protection you think that thin rubber or plastic could help you is simply not enough shock absorption to help from an impact. Sure, there are those extreme thick foam protection cases with handles for children; I'm not arguing about that. If you go to a repair, ask them how many screens got cracked inside a case.
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dropped my phone plenty of time and yes that rubber saves it every time...
 
SuperSubZero said:
I think the farthest down I ever got my old iPhone 4s was like 34% and that was a brutal day of usage. On a typical day I go to work at 100% and come home at like 92%. Oh noes, 8% battery gone what shall I do?

If they took the touchscreen, apps, Facebook, wifi, and messaging out of an iPhone I'm sure it would run for days too. And I'd never want to use it.

I'll take what I have.
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like I said obviously not a power user or brutal in any way. Amateur at best. Soccer moms come with dead phones to practice every day, I guess you cant even keep up with a soccer mom.
 
rudy said:
like I said obviously not a power user or brutal in any way. Amateur at best. Soccer moms come with dead phones to practice every day, I guess you cant even keep up with a soccer mom.
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While you're right about him not being a serious phone user, you could have been less childish about it.

Personally I'm more concerned about cycle-longevity than absolute capacity. That's why I never charge my phone above 80% or discharge below 40%. Even then, I can't stand the idea of tossing a perfectly adequate device because the internal battery no longer holds enough charge.
 
ChedWick said:
Citation required.
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GL with that one ...

wabbitseason said:
While you're right about him not being a serious phone user, you could have been less childish about it.

Personally I'm more concerned about cycle-longevity than absolute capacity. That's why I never charge my phone above 80% or discharge below 40%. Even then, I can't stand the idea of tossing a perfectly adequate device because the internal battery no longer holds enough charge.
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That won't really help your battery too much but its still a good practice. Usually when I get home because my phone is always syncing while I'm away my Note3 is left to 15% when I get home. Seriously contemplating a ZeroLemon....
 
rudy said:
lol Samsung TVs are the ONLY TVs I am aware of where they actually sell a kit to upgrade it. What is the planned obsolescence you speak of in TVs. Although I have stuck with Panasonic plasmas I must admit Samsung makes a tempting proposition with the evolution kit for anyone who doesn't know how to hook an HTPC up.
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What kit do you speak of? Unless you are talking about those horrific "smart tv" upgrade boxes?
 
Trimlock said:
What kit do you speak of? Unless you are talking about those horrific "smart tv" upgrade boxes?
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I am do you know of any other TV maker that offers the ability to keep your TV upgraded so it doesn't become obsolete when the cheap ARM cpu they put in it cannot handle the latest apps? That is assuming they will even ever upgrade the firmware.

wabbitseason said:
While you're right about him not being a serious phone user, you could have been less childish about it.

Personally I'm more concerned about cycle-longevity than absolute capacity. That's why I never charge my phone above 80% or discharge below 40%. Even then, I can't stand the idea of tossing a perfectly adequate device because the internal battery no longer holds enough charge.
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Cycle endurance is fine but for me and I think many I am not going to sacrifice the total capacity of my battery for a day on the chance it will last longer a year later. I just stick to devices with removable batteries, charge to full every night and throw the battery in the recycling when its capacity is diminished. I don't want to think about and manage the battery health of my phone or sacrifice part of its capacity.
 
rudy said:
I am do you know of any other TV maker that offers the ability to keep your TV upgraded so it doesn't become obsolete when the cheap ARM cpu they put in it cannot handle the latest apps? That is assuming they will even ever upgrade the firmware.
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Well you do have a point with these, I haven't used the kit itself, but I have used Samsungs TV firmware prior and it was terrible. If these work anywhere as terrible as their prior Smart TV software was then these are $200+ pieces of junk aimed at 2012 TV's only.
 
Well I don't think junk firmware is a planned obsolescence issue which was the point of the original comment, its more of a right off the bat bad product issue which is a separate discussion.
 
I got a battery case for my phone (Mophie to be specific), however I've used it probably a total of 3 times in the 5 or so months I've been using this phone. Honestly, I would say even these extended batteries are redundant for my life and lifestyle.

If I'm at home, it's on the charger. If I'm at work, it's on the charger. If I'm in the car, it's on a charger. Really phones these days only have to go 4-8 hours without at least some level of charging (obviously with short car rides the phone doesn't get maxed out to 100%, but with a 2 hour drive it gets pretty close if not there, even while using navigation).

I guess the other life style thing that keeps power in my favor is I'm not constantly poking my phone. My mom has the same phone I do, but is constantly using it on Facebook and Youtube. She complains that it runs out of batteries too quickly, but even that 'too quickly' is defined as using the phone constantly or near constantly for 8-10 hours. If she's in front of the TV, she's also on the phone, and that is a large portion of her day... she also takes photos constantly if she's anywhere doing anything. So generally I'm not using my phone for time wasters. Generally it's to look something up quickly, or read while I'm in-between places, or use it for communicating (call/text), or navigation (which is on the charger).

I would say then that extra batters are only necessary for those that want to use their phones for more than 8 hours a day (obviously standby time is much longer) and not be near any form of charging source. This isn't intended to be a criticism of your life choices, but I think most people don't care to use their phones that much per day to need an extra battery. I don't regret the purchase of my Mophie, as I suppose you could say, I like the 'just in case' feeling it gives me, but I mostly look at it as redundant.
 
mi7chy said:
Are you a wall hugger?

http://youtu.be/mzMUTrTYD9s
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If that is directed at me, then no. I don't carry a charger anywhere. Just have the two in the two places I am most, and one in my car. I don't really think that batteries these days require much if any active management to last a 16 hour day.

The only exception to this is if I'm traveling and I'm stuck in an airport. But then I would say "wallhugging" is what everyone does. Generally don't need to do that with a phone though, just a laptop. Even in that case, most of the time it's possible to find a table or something to put my computer on and avoid wallhugging as defined more or less by that video.
 
I've had phones with removable batteries and without, and frankly that particular feature has never been a major part of my purchasing decision (off-contract cost is always the biggest decider for me). I've never bothered buying extra batteries or replacing the stock one even when I had the ability to. It is a nice safety net to have, and it was something I actively looked for in a phone at one point, but then I realized that I was never actually leveraging it when I had it. I do 7-8 hours of Pandora streaming, web browsing and email checking each day sprinkled with the occasional phone call.
 
Nope, I'm very happy with the 10+ hour battery life on my iPad mini with Cellular.
 
Ditto considering a number of devices like Sony Xperia Z2 do 12 hours with 1080p, more powerful 4-core Snapdragon, 3GB DRAM, full phone functionality, etc.
 
mi7chy said:
Only 10 hours for a lousy 1024x768?
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It's a Retina mini, so 2048x1536.

ChedWick said:
That's actually kinda shitty.
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That's 10+ hours of non stop heavy use, like watching a video over wifi or playing 3D games.

On a typical day I don't spend 10 hours on it, so it lasts a lot longer. For example, it's 1:28 AM and I haven't charged it since last morning, and it's at 77% right now.

How long does your phone last?
 
shurcooL said:
It's a Retina mini, so 2048x1536.



That's 10+ hours of non stop heavy use, like watching a video over wifi or playing 3D games.

On a typical day I don't spend 10 hours on it, so it lasts a lot longer. For example, it's 1:28 AM and I haven't charged it since last morning, and it's at 77% right now.

How long does your phone last?
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Unfortunately you are lying... an iPad mini will only go that long playing games if your brightness is all the way down... even then I have a hard time believing it. My iPhone will go a MAX of 3 hours playing games.
 
shurcooL said:
From http://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/tablet-battery-life.jpg, it shows 614 minutes of wifi browsing and 604 minutes of video. That's 10+ hours.

Very intensive games will probably be between 7-10 hours, but that's still long enough to consider "infinite" by my standards. In other words, a replaceable battery is not something I'd want.
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Unless you are playing suduko, then I can't see you hitting that playing games. Fire up Asphalt8 or NFS Most Wanted and take a stopwatch and see how long your iPad lasts... I bet 3-4 hours you'll be dead. I've never timed my nephew playing NFS Most Wanted on his.... but on a short trip(less than 2 hours) his was almost dead, and was almost fully charged when we left.

For that fact... even my wife's iPad will only go about 2 hours playing Angry Birds.(full brightness and wifi on).
 
QwertyJuan said:
Unless you are playing suduko, then I can't see you hitting that playing games. Fire up Asphalt8 or NFS Most Wanted and take a stopwatch and see how long your iPad lasts... I bet 3-4 hours you'll be dead. I've never timed my nephew playing NFS Most Wanted on his.... but on a short trip(less than 2 hours) his was almost dead, and was almost fully charged when we left.

For that fact... even my wife's iPad will only go about 2 hours playing Angry Birds.(full brightness and wifi on).
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Yep this is what I don't get I see all these reviews stating this or that time but real life usage never allows that they must turn off everything else and not be running any other processes. Either that or the batteries are degrading faster than people think.
 
When you run demanding games all CPU and GPU cores are nearly maxed out versus playing a video that uses a low power dedicated hardware decoder or browsing on minimal cores at throttled speeds. Gsmarena does a really good job of battery performance testing including stats for voice calls, video playback, browsing and just needs to add gaming for completeness.
 
I have a removable battery but would not get a spare. If I needed more power I would get a portable USB battery booster pack.
 
Spare battery? Meh, I have a Droid Maxx. Don't need it, I can leave my phone off the charger for 3 days with normal usage.
 
I have an external power pack if I'm going to be away from a charger for an extended time. Although perhaps bulkier, this approach doesn't require the phone to be powered off.
 
I have an Anker 15000, the only reason I have it is for emergencies. I take it out and charge it on Monday night and put it back Tuesday morning in the wife's car.

I have a spare battery, not to extend my use but incase my battery dies. I don't want to have to order one or find one here on the island to get my phone working again.
 
just get an anker lipstick portable battery from amazon.
 
Have a spare battery for my S4 alongside a battery charging kit.

Was pretty useful for my trip abroad considering my phone served as our map replacement.
 
rudy said:
Yep this is what I don't get I see all these reviews stating this or that time but real life usage never allows that they must turn off everything else and not be running any other processes. Either that or the batteries are degrading faster than people think.
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I've been using an iPad mini every day for almost 2 years, but you know more about "real life" usage than me. :rolleyes:
 
7 days of battery life when my Note 3 and II only do up to 5 days with light use. With Samsung's advancement in 14 nm we'll probably see Galaxy battery life stretch into two weeks in 2015.

http://youtu.be/bVMXnQtlRkk
 
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