Alienware AW3225QF 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED

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Does 144 Hz still require DSC?
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just received the monitor,

impressed by the ease of setup!

144 Hz isn't even an option... interesting at least not seeing with HDMI

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it supports 12-bit? anyone try this? I'm running with it now

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erek said:
it supports 12-bit? anyone try this? I'm running with it now

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It's a 10-bit panel. The signal processor in the monitor converts and normalizes it to 10-bit before being output to the display.

I'd leave it on 8-bit for SDR. You'll get oversaturated colors with 10-bit in SDR, but I guess some people like that look. Windows will automatically change it to 10-bit when you turn HDR on.
 
Armenius said:
It's a 10-bit panel. The signal processor in the monitor converts and normalizes it to 10-bit before being output to the display.

I'd leave it on 8-bit for SDR. You'll get oversaturated colors with 10-bit in SDR, but I guess some people like that look. Windows will automatically change it to 10-bit when you turn HDR on.
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The bit depth output from your graphics card won’t influence the active colour space of the panel or cause over saturation of colours. That’s dictated by the gamut setting on the monitor. It’s fine to leave it in 10 or 12-bit all the time
 
Just got mine, manufacturing date Jan though so it doesn't have protective film on it - just bubble wrap against the raw screen. Screen is scuffed to hell with micro scratches and a row of micro smudges across the top. All permanent marks. Honestly what is Dell thinking with how they package these. TBF, you can't seem them very easily unless there is direct light. But not what I'd expect at this price. So sending it back.
 
Got mine about a week ago, bubblewrap-protected, perfect condition except some top-left smudges that i would guess were from some rubber-like grip from the manufacturing process that came off easily.
Very happy about it, coming from a lg cx and it is similar in quality but no black crush, so everything living up to expectations. I was mainly after the 240Hz, if not for that the quality improvement alone wouldn't have been enough for me.

One annoying bug though (latest firmware), in creator/sdr mode (possibly other as well, haven't tried) when I power it on using the power button, it boots up dimmed. Lowering/raising brightness one notch fixes it but needs to be done every time it starts (i think, not 100% that it happens every time). Has anyone experienced this? Same with dell display stuff installed/uninstalled.

[Edit: This doesn't happen with the standard profile, so I just use that for now]
 
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I currently have an Alienware 34" Ultrawide AW3420DW and I am on the edge of buying this monitor. Not sure if I should get this now or wait until future computer OLED monitors have higher sustained nits past 10% window coverage in HDR Mode.

One thing I'd really like to know before buying is what screen finish type the monitor really has. I keep seeing people mention it is glossy, but saw some comments that it isn't really. The AW3420DW was repeatedly in the past mentioned to be glossy, but it is really a semi-gloss. I just really like that pop of color you get with glass/glossy displays.
 
New firmware out.

"Fixes & Enhancements
1. To improve soundbars compatibility issues via HDMI ARC/eARC port.

Version​

M2B105, A03-00

Release date​

25 Apr 2024

Download Type​

Firmware

Category​

Device Firmware

Importance​

CRITICAL
Dell Technologies highly recommends applying this important update as soon as possible. The update contains critical bug fixes and changes to improve functionality, reliability, and stability of your Dell system. It may also include security fixes and other feature enhancements."


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Trojita said:
I currently have an Alienware 34" Ultrawide AW3420DW and I am on the edge of buying this monitor. Not sure if I should get this now or wait until future computer OLED monitors have higher sustained nits past 10% window coverage in HDR Mode.

One thing I'd really like to know before buying is what screen finish type the monitor really has. I keep seeing people mention it is glossy, but saw some comments that it isn't really. The AW3420DW was repeatedly in the past mentioned to be glossy, but it is really a semi-gloss. I just really like that pop of color you get with glass/glossy displays.
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Screen finish is very similar or the same, as your 34.
 
So no magic firmware update incoming to unlock the secret 500watt mode where it becomes a “real 1000nit monitor”?

Ripped off.
 
So it seems "custom color" is the native colorspace mode for this panel, and subjectively looks best to me. Both the calibrated "creator" presets for srgb and dci-p3 are emulations and look just slightly off, same for anyone else?
Tftcentral suggests settings for custom color mode of r97 g98 b100 if using that mode. Rtings also suggest the same custom color 97-98-100. I tried each mode (standard, srgb, dci-p3 and custom color) a few days each and settled for custom color in the end.
 
Anyone come from one of the AW 34's? I've had mine for little over a year and tbqh I have never been that impressed by it - games look great of course but I found it to be a downgrade in most other things (I was coming from one of the 38 LG IPS panels).

I've recently started using an older Crossover 434k for work and I had forgotten how good 4k can look. While I'm a fan of UW I'm keen to give one of these 4k OLEDs a shot.

Tossing up between this, the LG 32, or even a C4...
 
Morkai said:
So it seems "custom color" is the native colorspace mode for this panel, and subjectively looks best to me. Both the calibrated "creator" presets for srgb and dci-p3 are emulations and look just slightly off, same for anyone else?
Tftcentral suggests settings for custom color mode of r97 g98 b100 if using that mode. Rtings also suggest the same custom color 97-98-100. I tried each mode (standard, srgb, dci-p3 and custom color) a few days each and settled for custom color in the end.
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Are you using the custom ICC profile from RTings for the 'Custom Color' preset or did you just set the Gain to 97/98/100 and leave HDR Peak 1000 on (Dolby Vision Off)?
 
Baasha said:
Are you using the custom ICC profile from RTings for the 'Custom Color' preset or did you just set the Gain to 97/98/100 and leave HDR Peak 1000 on (Dolby Vision Off)?
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I haven't used any ICC profile. I also Haven't used HDR beyond some short test as I have recorded/streamed sdr stuff etc.
 
Morkai said:
I haven't used any ICC profile. I also Haven't used HDR beyond some short test as I have recorded/streamed sdr stuff etc.
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Newer capture cards can tone map HDR to SDR, so you can play in HDR and stream in SDR.

If your capture card doesn't support it or if you are directly capturing your PC---OBS should have a shader for tonemapping.
 
chameleoneel said:
Newer capture cards can tone map HDR to SDR, so you can play in HDR and stream in SDR.

If your capture card doesn't support it or if you are directly capturing your PC---OBS should have a shader for tonemapping.
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Does it work well in OBS? last I read about it it seemed ppl thought it wasn't quite good enough (but maybe better now/maybe always was good if properly configured?)
 
Morkai said:
Does it work well in OBS? last I read about it it seemed ppl thought it wasn't quite good enough (but maybe better now/maybe always was good if properly configured?)
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View: https://youtu.be/Hei0r0RvE94?si=Xl61oNUK9zlFxIC3&t=124

**regarding how "good" it looks: I've never done it. I imagine its probably not a perfect conversion, and could likely result in some colors being a little inaccurate. or maybe something like some black crush. But, its not like most streams look really great, anyway.
Additionally, I don't see many people complaining about not being able in to play in HDR when they stream. So, I think overall, its mostly a non-issue, as long as you stick to the main capture card brands or do the conversion in OBS, as explained in the video.
 
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Baasha said:
Well, you guys aren't going to believe it, but the 120hz/240hz bug has been SOLVED!

I got yet another DP 2.1 cable (DP80 certified from "Club") and the monitor STILL showed only 120hz when booting up and/or restarting.

So, I decided to plug the AW3225QF into the LAST DP PORT on the RTX 4090 and switch the Asus PG32UQX to the 3rd DP port and guess what, 240Hz is persistent across reboots and/or startup! Tested it like 10 times to confirm and 240Hz remains in NVCP on the AW!

I went back to the original DP cable that came in the box (DP 1.4) and 240Hz is still persistent so all is well!

w00t!

Now I can see myself getting owned in MWIII at 240Hz! :p

The only other 'bug' that remains is that Dolby Vision is 'locked' (aka is always "ON") but I guess Dell is already working on a firmware to address that so I'm not too concerned about it. The main thing was 4K 240Hz while the PG32UQX is 4K 144Hz. :D
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I have the same setup (PG32UQX and AW32), and the same issues.

Which DP port is the "last" one? And which DP port is the "3rd" one?
 
Hello, i saw some ppl asking if upgrading from an AW3423DW is worth it, it's totally not.
My set up is actually AW3423DW (non F, so with harware gsync) + an s95b (samsung tv in case of ppl dont know) monitor plug in with DP, TV in Hdmi, into a 4080 (paired with a 7800x3D) both very enjoyable. As i didnt suffer from VRR flicker on s95b, surprisingly it's barrely the same behaviour than the aw34 with gsync hardware, i decided to swap my 34in to the new aw3225qf.
Flicker was unbearable on this monitor, got ptsd from old VA ultrawide gsync certified panel, monitor frequencies going wild, cappin Fps, tweaking the hell out, nothing solved vrr flickering. It seems that all this new qd oled 4K 240hz behave the same way, i read some post, reddit etc.. describing this behaviour, monitor frequencies going really wild, even with non demanding game (wich a 4080 can run a stable frame rate).
For example, Wuthering wave (a genshin impact like game), natively cap at 60Fps my AW32 was flickering, enabling "image frequency" from monitor OSD to see wtf is happening, you can clearly see the hertz blinking between 60 to 240hz and make the screen flicker hard. I replug my aw3423dw, enable the monitor option to see whats happening, rock steady 60hz no matter what (ok 56 to 60), tried the same game on my s95b same behaviour, solid frequencies = no flicker at all.
I dont know if the flickering is due how to gsync is handle on those very high frequency monitor, 240hz, but beware, i come to this conclusion because my oled tv, is like the aw32, gsync compatible, and i really have no issue at all (and i'm playing sitting close to the tv)

To resume, if you come from an AW3423DW, i really suggest to not upgrade, VRR flickering gonna be awfull because even with a 4090, on some game with gsync you wont be able to go that close 240 fps to match his refresh rate, so you'll be prone to more flickering.
 
Leihjir said:
Hello, i saw some ppl asking if upgrading from an AW3423DW is worth it, it's totally not.
My set up is actually AW3423DW (non F, so with harware gsync) + an s95b (samsung tv in case of ppl dont know) monitor plug in with DP, TV in Hdmi, into a 4080 (paired with a 7800x3D) both very enjoyable. As i didnt suffer from VRR flicker on s95b, surprisingly it's barrely the same behaviour than the aw34 with gsync hardware, i decided to swap my 34in to the new aw3225qf.
Flicker was unbearable on this monitor, got ptsd from old VA ultrawide gsync certified panel, monitor frequencies going wild, cappin Fps, tweaking the hell out, nothing solved vrr flickering. It seems that all this new qd oled 4K 240hz behave the same way, i read some post, reddit etc.. describing this behaviour, monitor frequencies going really wild, even with non demanding game (wich a 4080 can run a stable frame rate).
For example, Wuthering wave (a genshin impact like game), natively cap at 60Fps my AW32 was flickering, enabling "image frequency" from monitor OSD to see wtf is happening, you can clearly see the hertz blinking between 60 to 240hz and make the screen flicker hard. I replug my aw3423dw, enable the monitor option to see whats happening, rock steady 60hz no matter what (ok 56 to 60), tried the same game on my s95b same behaviour, solid frequencies = no flicker at all.
I dont know if the flickering is due how to gsync is handle on those very high frequency monitor, 240hz, but beware, i come to this conclusion because my oled tv, is like the aw32, gsync compatible, and i really have no issue at all (and i'm playing sitting close to the tv)

To resume, if you come from an AW3423DW, i really suggest to not upgrade, VRR flickering gonna be awfull because even with a 4090, on some game with gsync you wont be able to go that close 240 fps to match his refresh rate, so you'll be prone to more flickering.
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Interesting, I've noticed very little flicker. It's way less flicker then I had on my LGC2 42". Maybe I am just playing things where the fps doesn't fluctuate much.

I do miss a gsync module though, I wonder if they will ever release an updated HDMI2.1/DP2.0 version
 
Hello, a quick update, i finally "fix" flicker due to refresh rate bouncing (as the classic vrr one during loading screen, etc.. is inherent to oled tech and cant be fix).

As i though (and i already saw that in some comment) those kind of 4K 240hz monitor + many games poorly optimized = flickering fest if you cant brute force the performance with a very beaffy rig (high end CPU + 4090, cant speak for an 7900xtx).
For those who got 4080 or at least 4070ti, do a clean install of you're driver, then just set you're refrest rate at 120hz and tweak a little bit you're setting (in NVCP, assuming you're enabling Gsync, fps cap little bit below you're refresh rate) in game to match your fps closest to the refresh rate, my AW3225qf is finnaly as good than my s95b or even with my AW3423dw.
Flickering that i mention happen in all this kind of 240hz panel, so if you're on the fence to pick a monitor, and hesitate between AW / Asus / Gigabyte / Msi, etc... just pick the cheapest one or the one wich you find more appealling.

Have a nice week end !

Ps: 4k + 32inch is amazing
 
Any recommendations on a secondary monitor (aside from another one of these) to pair with? The secondary would just be for Discord, email, other IM apps., etc..
 
Synomenon said:
Any recommendations on a secondary monitor (aside from another one of these) to pair with? The secondary would just be for Discord, email, other IM apps., etc..
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Samsung 57" dual 4k is super practical as a secondary display
 
l88bastard said:
Samsung 57" dual 4k is super practical as a secondary display
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Along with practically any CRT if you can still find one. "Discord, email, other IM apps., etc.." A monochrome would probably suffice.

Sorry, I'm not sure. Sounds like any number of relatively cheap IPS displays would do. (Though personally I don't like to mix technologies, because I tend to see the worst image quality aspects of each when they're right there next to each other. Kind of a glass half full kind of guy when it comes to displays I guess...)
 
what is everyone using to clean their AW3225QF?

cloth/spray (specific product details)
 
erek said:
what is everyone using to clean their AW3225QF?

cloth/spray (specific product details)
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I don't have a QD-OLED. But, I've watched a lot of videos and read a lot of reddit posts.

Seems like the screen coating its a bit delicate. One user said it felt like "camera film". And that sort of soft feel can make it difficult to clean.

If I had one, I would use a really soft microfiber cloth and some distilled water. And if that didn't successfully remove whatever I'm trying to clean, I would put a teensy amount of scent and dye free dishsoap on the wet cloth. and after the grime is wiped off the screen, I would use a freshly wet cloth to sort of rinse it. and another dry one, to dry it.
 
chameleoneel said:
I don't have a QD-OLED. But, I've watched a lot of videos and read a lot of reddit posts.

Seems like the screen coating its a bit delicate. One user said it felt like "camera film". And that sort of soft feel can make it difficult to clean.

If I had one, I would use a really soft microfiber cloth and some distilled water. And if that didn't successfully remove whatever I'm trying to clean, I would put a teensy amount of scent and dye free dishsoap on the wet cloth. and after the grime is wiped off the screen, I would use a freshly wet cloth to sort of rinse it. and another dry one, to dry it.
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yes seems difficult to clean, and i need a solution :/
 
erek said:
yes seems difficult to clean, and i need a solution :/
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Ditch QD-OLED and switch to W-OLED like me :D

Kidding of course, distilled water and the provided microfiber cloth from Dell is supposed to work just fine.
 
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MistaSparkul said:
Ditch QD-OLED and switch to W-OLED like me :D

Kidding of course, distilled water and the provided microfiber cloth from Dell is supposed to work just fine.
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How do I get a replacement one? The one from Dell seems special
 
erek said:
I had a dream about these microfiber cleaning cloths last night, it was in a pack and an assortment of colors
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I recommend only using red, green, and blue cloths, and always in that order if you want to maintain your text clarity.
 
MistaSparkul said:
Ditch QD-OLED and switch to W-OLED like me :D

Kidding of course, distilled water and the provided microfiber cloth from Dell is supposed to work just fine.
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I've been using a 10 year old Rocketfish screen cleaning kit and it's been working fine. I think the main issue is the quality of the microfiber, dollar store ain't gonna do it.
 
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