After Win 10 update why is fps so low for Mass Effect and other gsmes

Discussion in 'Video Cards' started by HAL_404, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. HAL_404

    HAL_404 Limp Gawd

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    had a large Win 10 update a few weeks ago and another large one just the other day and when I run ME2 the GPU core speed is 726 MHz in-game with 45 fps or lower. I tried EVGA Precision XOC and turned on Turbo (the K button) but in-game it's still 726 MHz. Rise of the Tomb Raider works fine (core @ 1866 MHz and pinned at 60 fps @ 1080p)

    why the change in GPU operation on some games? All games were running fine until the Win updates were done
     
  2. AP514

    AP514 Limp Gawd

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    Drivers, Drivers, Drivers, make sure Win did not install some BS drivers over the ones you were using..(it does it to my audio all the dam time for some reason)
     
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  3. viivo

    viivo Gawd

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    Make sure High Performance is selected in power options. I know of a few games that run terribly with any other stock power profile.
     
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  4. Nenu

    Nenu [H]ardened

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    You shouldnt need to do this though, my PC uses a lot more power at idle like this.
    Sure it can be turned on/off but it turns gaming into a hassle.
    MS QA is crap.
     
  5. Vengance_01

    Vengance_01 [H]ardness Supreme

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    Check the GPU setting for power as well in the Nvidia control panel.
     
  6. HAL_404

    HAL_404 Limp Gawd

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    thanks for the input ...

    I have Win power options on Balanced, no change when set to High Performance and nvidia Control Panel set to Max Performance (I usually set it to Adaptive). Drivers were re-installed last night, tried a few earlier nvidia drivers versions (went back 3-4 versions) ... problem is still there. Rise of the TR GPU @ 1866 @ pinned 60 fps is still there and working as it has been - beginning to think it's either the OS update or an EA thing going on. Did a game file repair then re-downloaded ME2 and no change.

    Whenever I have a gaming issue, it ALWAYS involves an EA game
     
  7. Legendary Gamer

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    Could be something to do with a roll back of Direct X. You might try pulling the latest distro of that and dropping it on top of windows.

    Who knows, I've seen that happen before tho. It's a Dx9 game. They didn't move to Dx10 until ME3 IIRC.
     
  8. HAL_404

    HAL_404 Limp Gawd

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    I checked the dxdiag file and it shows I have DX 12 installed and according to Microsoft there is no stand alone DX download available for Windows 10
     
  9. mvmiller12

    mvmiller12 Gawd

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    That would be because DirectX 9 is a little different. It's built-in, but not with all of the "expanded modules" some games use. Do a search for DirectX Web and you will find the installer and it will update the DirectX 9 components.
     
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  10. Mega6

    Mega6 [H]ard|Gawd

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    uninstall the adapter driver, reboot, ddu the box, reboot. install the display driver. reboot. check the driver settings, reset to default. try the game.
     
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  11. SvenBent

    SvenBent 2[H]4U

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    I believe this is a myth. never seen any concrete evidence on this.
    But if you have any i would love to see it

    well with te exception of coreparing core parking does mess up a lot of things
     
  12. Mega6

    Mega6 [H]ard|Gawd

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    I've seen this affect the GPU so..check this and see what happens.

    control panel, click on Hardware & Sound > Power settings (for category view) or Control Panel > Power options (for icon view) Select "Change Plan Settings" next to whatever plan you have selected. Click on "Change Advanced Power Settings" Expand "PCI Express" > "Link State Power Management" and change that setting to "Off". Restart windows
     
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  13. SvenBent

    SvenBent 2[H]4U

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    Well its not like ive already test it... oh wait i did
    balacned vs high performance ( both with core parking disabled)


    This is just one of the 11 system I've tested it on

    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
    Intel Core i7 3770K @ 3.50GHz
    32.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 1066MHz (11-13-13-30)
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (Gigabyte)
    238GB Samsung SSD 850 PRO 256GB (SSD)
    558GB Intel Raid 0 Volume (RAID)



    --- Geekbench 3.4.1 Tryout for Windows x86 (32-bit)
    Single-Core Multi-Core

    Balanced
    3808 pts 15298 pts
    3799 pts 15289 pts
    3794 pts 15151 pts

    Performance
    3815 pts 15298 pts
    3819 pts 15181 pts
    3815 pts 15212 pts


    --- NovaBench
    Balanced
    2181
    2247
    2254

    Performance
    2095
    2083
    2077


    --- 7-zip
    Compressing Decompressing

    Balanced
    23413 278296
    23808 278296
    23476 278296

    Performance
    23877 278296
    23413 278296
    23743 277355


    --- 7-zip disk trashing
    Compressing Decompressing

    Balanced
    10287 240299
    09704 244368
    10720 244672
    09702 243479
    09927 239713

    Performance
    10261 243498
    09606 243479
    09430 245263
    10000 244064
    09723 244368



    --- Winrar
    Balance
    11.068
    11.077
    11.107

    Performance
    11.113
    11.146
    11.156


    -- wprime
    Balanced
    6.711
    6.713
    6.717

    Performance
    6.726
    6.719
    6.709


    --- Hyper PI
    Balanced
    13.768
    13.689
    13.542

    Performance
    13.773
    13.612
    13.697


    --- FFT-z
    CPU Thread

    Balanced
    897 112.1
    896 112.0
    896 112.0

    Performance
    895 111.9
    897 112.1
    896 112.0

    --- DnetC
    OGR-NG RC5-72

    Balanced
    99.638 16.366
    99.108 16.244
    99.041 16.375
    99.065 16.390
    98.848 16.365

    Performance
    99.521 16.421
    99.185 16.409
    99.560 16.658
    99.864 16.418
    99.902 16.658


    --- Quake 3
    Demo1 Demo2

    Balanced
    989.0 983.8
    991.2 981.8
    994.8 985.2


    --- UT 2004
    Quality Performance

    Balanced
    169.758
    168.864
    169.405


    --- 3Dmark 2001
    Balanced
    72229
    72366
    72268

    Performance
    72302
    72203
    71975


    --- 3Dmark03
    Score CPU

    Balanced
    121441 4646
    121101 4637
    121190 4642

    Performance
    121220 4625
    121289 4634
    121499 4602


    --- 3Dmark05
    Score CPU

    Balanced
    41241 44315
    41019 44208
    41153 44440

    Perfomance
    41204 44735
    41178 44604
    41111 44936

    --- 3dmark06
    Score SM2.0 SM3.0 CPU

    Balanced
    32711 12111 16429 8896
    32402 11656 16460 8986
    32355 11647 16462 8934

    Performance
    32999 12233 16593 8936
    32621 11755 16608 8981
    32629 11746 16581 9033



    --- PCmark 04
    Mark CPU Mem GFX HDD

    Balanced
    21260 88848 101662
    21097 88989 100707
    21224 88866 102497

    Performance
    21255 68305 102432
    21256 58996 103578
    21301 58711 104802



    --- PCmark 05
    Mark CPU Mem GFX HDD

    Balanced
    23401 15856 12871 13713 73486
    23324 15948 12771 13716 72875
    23344 15933 12857 13786 73417

    Performance
    23534 16110 12818 11957 73224
    23419 16123 12692 12051 73748
    23394 16107 12972 11998 74554

    --- Pov-Ray
    Balanced
    4313.28
    4352.14
    4344.54

    Performance
    4322.86
    4365.19
    4368.39


    --- CineBench
    OpenGL Multi Singl
    119.02 775 156
    114.67 778 157
    113.18 781 156
    111.78 778 157
    112.13 778 156

    Performance
    118.15 778 157
    111.73 778 157
    111.98 776 157
    111.31 781 157
    110.99 775 156


    --- Sisoft Sandra
    Overall Finanse Scientific

    Balance
    16.47 19.77 14.29
    16.44 19.77 14.18
    16.54 19.85 14.36
    16.67 19.84 14.24
    16.50 19.38 14.18

    Performance
    16.50 16.94 14.22
    16.76 19.31 14.29
    16.78 19.79 14.15
    16.77 19.85 14.29
    16.72 19.70 14.32


    --- Passmark
    Overall CPU 2D 3D Mem HDD

    Balanced
    5426.7 11177 927 7206 3079 5143
    5420.0 11240 922 7195 3087 5106
    5314.1 11284 926 7217 3083 4333
    5428.1 11286 927 7216 3088 5029
    5360.9 11252 929 7204 3084 4593

    Performance
    5324.0 11355 926 7220 3079 4353
    5455.7 11317 934 7219 3070 5148
    5273.4 11331 937 7215 3086 3982
    5260 11333 935 7217 3078 3651
    5404 11312 937 7219 3075 4730



    --- Catzilla
    Balanced
    22269
    21909
    21737

    Performance
    22017
    21883
    21970


    --- Unigine Sanctuary
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    193.7 110.8
    193.1 110.2
    193.0 110.8

    Performance
    193.8 110.9
    193.5 110.7
    193.1 111.0


    --- unigine Tropics
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    130.3 90.1
    130.1 90.3
    130.1 90.2

    Performance
    130.4 91.2
    130.2 90.6
    130.2 90.4


    --- unigine heaven
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    56.0 30.5
    55.8 30.7
    55.9 30.5

    Performance
    55.9 30.6
    56.0 30.6
    55.9 30.6


    --- Unigine Valley
    AvgFPS MinFPS
    Balanced
    52.3 28.2
    52.3 30.1
    52.3 30.0

    Performance
    51.6 28.2
    51.7 28.3
    51.8 29.5


    --- FXIV heavensward
    Balanced
    18813
    18823
    19133

    PErformance
    18998
    19081
    18808


    --- PLA
    Balanced
    491.2
    484.2
    483.1

    Performance
    486.3
    479.9
    474.7


    --- Monster Hunter
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    86.9 41.5
    86.2 43.6
    85 42.6

    Performance
    73.7 31.6
    70.7 33.8
    70.2 32.8


    --- AvP
    Balance
    84.7
    84.7
    84.5

    Performance
    84.6
    84.6
    84.7


    --- Call of Juaraz
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    239.2 70.9
    238.9 98.3
    238.8 98.3
    238.9 94.8
    238.9 95.0

    Performance
    260.6 70.6
    244.6 94.8
    244.4 98.3
    244.6 98.3
    244.5 98.3


    --- Devil May Cry
    Balanced
    715.8275
    716.79
    734

    Performance
    705.18
    710.08
    712


    --- Lost Planet 2
    Balanced
    125.5
    118.7
    118.0
    119.8
    123.0

    Performance
    121.4
    118.2
    120.6


    --- SFIV
    Balanced
    59.78
    59.80
    59.80

    Performance
    59.80
    59.80
    59.81


    --- RE6
    Balanced
    14292
    14257
    14299

    Performance
    14206
    14213
    14190


    -- Stalker
    AvgFPS MinFPS

    Balanced
    193.325 91.525
    189.575 93.85
    192.75 100.55

    Performance
    194.1 95.3
    192.1 94.05
    189.35 95.325


    -- Crysis
    Balanced
    129.2
    129.73
    129.755
    129.68
    129.625



    performance
    117.745
    128.56
    130.03
    129.725
    129.825




    I've show you mine please show me your benchmarks where it makes a different besides from core parking
     
  14. Mega6

    Mega6 [H]ard|Gawd

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    My apologies if it wasn't clear as I quoted you SvenBent, but the link state check was meant for the op. Thanks for the numbers.
     
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  15. Legendary Gamer

    Legendary Gamer Limp Gawd

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    Exactly what I was trying to get at, thank you!
     
  16. CAD4466HK

    CAD4466HK Gawd

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    Your memory is failing you, ME:3 was DX9 only.

    https://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/03/26/mass_effect_3_gameplay_performance_iq_review/
     
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  17. Legendary Gamer

    Legendary Gamer Limp Gawd

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    You're right, I was swapping my facts. The engine was capable, but they kept the entire series in DX9. My bad, I'm turning into an old fart more and more every day ;).

    I was always amazed I could run it MAX settings on older NV hardware like the GTS 250 at 1080P and it ran great. Not sure where I pulled the DX10 comment from, other than my ass... lol
     
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  18. Shadowed

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    Hey Hal, did you resolve this issue?

    You could try Fast Sync which does often resolve low frame rate issues in some games.

    Open up NVCP, go to Manage 3d, Global, and under Vertical sync, choose fast.

    After that try running a game. This allows me to get nearly 1000fps in 2d scenes.
     
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