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I'm just thinking in the poor fools who invested so much money in a 9900K, with zero upgrade path. What a sad lot that must be...
We will find out but with proper cooling even with single core boost the venerable Fragmaster will get it close on all cores.Can you imagine a 16c/32t CPU at 5.1ghz? That is fucking mind boggling.....Need Kyle to see if that is on all cores!
Awesome, Nvidia can keep their price gouging RTX bullshit. I'd really like a card from AMD that can beat a 1080ti, and cost around $500-$550.
If this is true, I will be sooo happy. That said, I've gotten my hopes way too high at pretty much every AMD launch in the past several years. I'll admit the products over the past 2 yrs have been a lot more tempting. But, again if this is true and we can get close or to 5ghz on AMD..... Then count me in. Can't wait to return to AMD but I don't want to lose performance in the process. Also, those Navi GPU's seem awesome. Will totally TACO the used GPU market lol. The miners must be nervous. If more rumors start supporting this, I could see the used GPU market get flooded the the floor drop on prices.
Would finally bring IPC to parity with Intel's current parts.Man if that R9 3850 is true.. 16c/32t 5.1Ghz plus 13% IPC uplift compared to Zen+. I am so going to replace my R7 1800x with it. This reminds me of the days when you upgraded the CPU and immediately felt your computer get snappier. We haven't had that since like 2010 or something.
Will these new cpu's from AMD have better IPC as well as clockspeed?
There’s no way anyone with a shred of business sense would create a card that can beat a GTX 1080 and sell it for such a huge discount. Small discount to make it inticing? Sure. But that high of a delta? I mean we all can dream, but it would be completely stupid to do from a business standpoint.
Given the hype we were fed for Polaris and Vega, two cards I was interested in for upgrading my R9 280X only to be completely disappointed when they actually launched, I would file this under “believe it when I see it”.
COUNT on this happening. It'll likely be a Enterprise part that is used for AI/Learning because those fields can accept some latency increases compared to gaming.Not knowing how computers work, what would prevent AMD from making GPUs the same as as CPU , io die with multiple gpu chiplets? Also, I imagine those x86 components could be replaced or combined with ARM components?...
All in all things look bright even if they only attack mid low gpu markets. The cpu side looks really good.
Theres that saying about need being the mother of all invention and what not.. well AMD was basically boxed in a need of being the most efficient with silicon, bad or good, so this way the figured out a lot of efficiency.
If this all pans out, then I'll be assuredly glad that I've put off my PC overhaul every year for the past few years.
I will be more than happy to go back to AMD.
The 3850X is 2/3 the price of my threadripper with more and faster CPU i just bought this month.
I picked the wrong time to upgrade...
I also theorize that some motherboard manufacturers will have Dual-BIOS with a switch for the x570 boards. In one position it's for the Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series, with the other being for the Ryzen 3000 series board. B550 boards won't have this switch and will only work with Ryzen 3000 processors. x370 and x470 will have limited support to only up to the Ryzen 7 3700x. B350 and B450 will work with up to the Ryzen 5 3600x. This confusion is why AMD and the Motherboard manufactures are considering an "Intel like" refresh, with cutting backwards/forwards compatibility to not confuse the market.
Thanks for reading, this is all me making assumptions.
The rumours say around 15%, so only 3 generations of Intel products' worth. A 15% IPC increase and those clocks would mean AMD have a monster on their hands.Will these new cpu's from AMD have better IPC as well as clockspeed?
If you like that chip, just wait to see how excited you're gonna be when they release the new threadrippers that are compatible with your current board.
They won't have some wonky switch for different chips, the x570 board is going to introduce pci-e 4.0 and the boards themselves are going to be designed to offer enough stable power delivery for a 135w cpu. Older chips with less power won't need special tricks to work on the boards.
If you want to take advantage of PCIe 4.0 you will need a new MB.
I'm in dire need of upgrading my 3470.
I'm going to guess that pricing and clock speeds may be a little overenthusiastic.
monster kill
Bingo. I know we all want to stick it to “Ngreedia” for their ridiculous RTX pricing, but AMD isn’t a charity for us, willing to give away hardware with sick deals. They’ll charge what they can, and they SHOULD, or else they won’t be viable as a business. Even Vega 64 was priced at 1080 levels where it was slated to compete.
If I were a manager at AMD and my engineers came up with a card that competes hard with the GTX 1080 and a marketing guy said we should sell it for $250, I would fire them.
If true, that $249 card can't come soon enough.
Does this mean more RAM channels?