Admitted Norway Killer Breivik Trained on Video Games

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I guess it was inevitable that role playing in video games would play a major part in the killing of 77 people in Norway last year. The trial of accused killer Anders Breivik made the turn into the video game arena today when he testified he played World of Warcraft for up to 16 hours a day as training. Let the media outcries against video games commence.:rolleyes:

He played the game "Modern Warfare 2" for practice, he said.
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Per this, I should be a murderer of millions, if not billions of people, cause I play APB Reloaded, WoW, all kinds of FPS's, RTS's and beta MMO's... :rolleyes:

Damn I've been training since Pong!!!
 
well.. honestly.. if i played WOW 16 hours a day it would make me go on a killing rampage too
 
If that's the case, my time in GTA: Vice City should make me a killer mafia boss, right?
 
How on earth does WoW help you train for anything remotely like what he did? :confused:


I think he's just using his spotlight to say funny shit in order to make fun of the process.

(if I were in his position, in a country that does not have a death penalty, yet without a chance in hell of getting off, I would too.) :p
 
but on a serious note, i don't see how WoW helped him hone his skillz .... even fps games like counter strike is aiming with a mouse click. Since when has shooting a real live gun involved mouse clicking ?

And in WOW, where are the guns ? Yes hunter has a gun. I guess rogue and warrior has a gun. But really it's just mouse clicking ....

I can however see that the killer obviously was bored with life, why else spend that many hours in Wow which is a huge time sink ....

But it isn't the game to blame, it's the person .....

I would also argue that if Wow had been more interesting, then maybe he wouldn't have had the urge to go and kill people in real life, otherwise he will miss out on the fun in the next patch and so on and so forth :X
 
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I've been practicing since the mid 90's. I guess I am a highly trained killer now.

Oh wait... I've stopped playing a few months and get slaughtered when I get back on.
 
Everyone's looking for someone to blame other than themselves. It's not the dude's fault for killing all those people, it's the gaming industry, WOW in particular, who are to blame. [H]Gawd! I hate when people don't take responsibility. Quit passing the buck, be an adult and take responsibility. "It's my parent's fault because... ", "It's my co-worker's fault because...", "It's my sister's fault because..."

/rant
 
MajorDomo said:
I guess it was inevitable that role playing in video games would play a major part in the killing of 77 people in Norway last year. The trial of accused killer Anders Breivik made the turn into the video game arena today when he testified he played World of Warcraft for up to 16 hours a day as training. Let the media outcries against video games commence.:rolleyes:
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Just to clarify (and not that this gives any credence to the "video games are bad... mmkay?" argument that inevitably will follow), Breivik testified that he played Modern Warfare 2 for practice. He stated that he "also went through a period of playing the game 'World of Warcraft' up to 16 hours a day."

There was no correlation between WoW and practicing to kill in the real world.

But let's not overlook the real cause here: Beivik didn't kill people because he played video games. In his own words he "killed his victims to fight multiculturalism in Norway". The guys a bigot, his brain is wired wrong, and he killed a bunch of people because he thought genocide makes good public policy.

The fact that he also plays video games is no more or less relevant than the fact that he also probably preferred a particular brand of peanut butter or bought a certain style of shoe. Can you imagine how stupid it would sound if he testified that (hypothetically) he preferred the Dr. Martens brand of boot because it allowed him to walk comfortably while stalking his victims, and people suddenly started decrying Doc Martens as promoting murder?
 
I think the point that should be made is he decided to take an existing medium and use it for a purpose. It's not like he played MW2 and that is how seed of thought for killing 77 people was planted and germinated. People always have the wool over their eyes when it suits their own ends.

For Example: Pinball robs the "pockets of schoolchildren in the form of nickels and dimes given them as lunch money..."

Source
 
Sounds like he's continuing to build his insanity defense. No normal person believes 16 hours of WoW trains you to do anything of value.
 
Draxanoth said:
Sounds like he's continuing to build his insanity defense. No normal person believes 16 hours of WoW trains you to do anything of value.
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How about doing mindless repetative tasks for 12 hours straight?
 
Call this guy crazy, but he is a genius when it comes to planning/execution. From his bomb distraction, to his actual target, he thought this through from start to finish. And if you think getting arrested wasn't part of his plan, you're wrong.
 
lilbabycat said:
Call this guy crazy, but he is a genius when it comes to planning/execution. From his bomb distraction, to his actual target, he thought this through from start to finish. And if you think getting arrested wasn't part of his plan, you're wrong.
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Someone who plans something in a 2 stage process is a genius? I suppose, if we set the bar low enough, nobody will have poor self esteem. World = Saved.
 
If I had to play rehashed content in an MMO for 16 hours a day, only to start playing an FPS and find it to also be rehashed content AND a rehashed engine... i'd kill 77 people too :/
 
Wow. Another day. Another batch of [H]'ers that don't read the fucking article and get fooled by the sensationalist headline. Y'all motherfluffers need jesus.

For one thing, at least this guy had a clear goal and plan. The only thing that went wrong is that he survived the last mission which he wasn't planning. I am curious to see about the actual political/social climate that made him act in this way. Is there actually a real issue that exists and he just had a bad solution to the problem?
 
I bet if he watched Law and Order, NCIS, and CSI:anywhere he would have gotten away clean ?
 
The sad part is that the maximum prison sentence in Norway is 21 years.
 
What is left out of this is that he actually used video games as a way to hide his actions. He said in his "manifesto" use the excuse of playing WoW to make people less suspicious of his actions. WoW wasn't a catalyst for anything but more a way for him to pray on people's biases to be able to hide his actions.
 
On another note the killer also drank water, ate food and breathed air. New studies show that %100 of criminals all share these 3 habits...
 
Funny thing is that he wants either the death penalty or to be acquitted. He feels jail or a psych ward is useless since he's not insane. Heh. Interesting POV. Though killing a bunch of people for a political reason is well, why we have a military. They get passes, because its the military, so it's cool.
 
Do you have any idea how DIFFICULT it is to kill someone with a mouse pointer? HOLD STILL GOD DAMN YOU!!! I'M TRYING TO GET A FUCKING HEAD SHOT! I swear, if you cost me a ribbon I'm going to write my barrister!
 
And playing 3D SexVilla is going to turn me into a porn star.
:rolleyes:
 
Zarathustra[H];1038627423 said:
How on earth does WoW help you train for anything remotely like what he did? :confused:


I think he's just using his spotlight to say funny shit in order to make fun of the process.

(if I were in his position, in a country that does not have a death penalty, yet without a chance in hell of getting off, I would too.) :p
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If you've ever played through all the Mass Effect games then you are a genocidal killer capable of destruction on a galactic scale right?

If so then WATCH OUT. I've got at least 700 hours or more in those games.
 
2 things an Associate Press articule said:
- He played WoW for entertainment
- He played MW to get used to iron sights

So yes, he did play MW as a "practice" for what he did, and for good reason, these games are getting much more realistic than the days of Doom or Duke Nuke'em.

I should note, I just played 40+ hours of MW3 in the last 2 weeks, I'm normally the top 3 (and I play Ground War too!), and my K/D ratio is very good. Oh yeah, you best watch out son... :cool:
 
He used "I play World of Warcraft" as an excuse for others that would follow in his footsteps. It won't really merit any suspicion that you rarely go and meet other people (your relatives, for example, your neighbors) while you are actually training for some actual killing.
 
Here is the article and the related blurb:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-04-19-11-26-20

In his testimony, Breivik said he played the computer game "Modern Warfare" for 16 months starting in January 2010, primarily to get a feel for how to use rifle sights. Breivik said he decided already in 2006 to carry out what he expected to be a "suicide" operation. First he took a "sabbatical year" fully devoted to play another computer game, "World of Warcraft," for 16 hours a day.

Breivik said that cutting off social contact for a full year helped him prepare for the attacks, but the game-playing was "pure entertainment. It doesn't have anything to do with July 22."
 
kattana said:
well.. honestly.. if i played WOW 16 hours a day it would make me go on a killing rampage too
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Especially after you found out that they were going to destroy the talent system with their next big patch.

Chosing one of 3 talents every 15 levels? WTF
 
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