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Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor
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From what I heard they'll only cover pixel perfect versions.
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great! Thanks for the heads up. Does anyone know the deal with the power bricks that I mentioned?
The power bricks that have come with the korean monitors seem to work fine for most people, however, if you want, you could go to ebay to pick up a spare powerbrick for under $25.
gotcha, the first auction only has a power brick that supports 220V, the other one is 110~240V. I'm not sure of the exact details on the difference or what...
Could you display a white screen on your monitor and check if the white is pretty much even across the screen, or if there's "yellower"/warmer areas?
You got it!
Dear Interested Parties,
Here is my informal review of the entire process from ordering thru delivery and setup. Please note that I am not a graphics professional nor am I trained to review LED monitors. All I do is play games (D3, Civ5, WoW, SC2, L4D2), upload and view pictures, watch streaming videos over the net, listen to music, and read articles and post on various websites.
That said, here are some things to you should note:
Ordered thru Ebay from AccessoriesWhole for BIN price of $399.98 US Shipped, no tax/customs.
Did NOT purchase Pixel Perfect version
Paid via Paypal Bill Me Later
Ordered on Wed Jun 27th around 9pm PST
Shipped on Thur Jun 28th with FedEx tracking# at around 6am PST
Arrived on Monday Jul 2nd at around 2pm PST
Took less than a week to get here and really just two business days if you don't include the weekend.
Arrived with bubblewrap around the (I presume) retail box of the monitor. Monitor was packaged sufficiently and there was no damage to the monitor or the stand when I opened to assess the monitor. DVI Cable and PowerBrick both wrapped up in bubble wrap and put behind the monitor.
Box had clearly been open, however everything was sealed, I believe the seller pulled it out to make one last QC before shipping out. It's probably in their best interest, since they will pay for shipping back if monitor is defective within 30 days.
Out of the box the monitor looked fine, however when I turned down the brightness I noticed a slight blue tint. I then downloaded the color profile from TFT for this monitor, adjusted some settings in nVidia CP and now it's near perfect. Didn't notice the blue tint on normal Brightness level though. I've used the monitor for about five hours now going through everything that I would normally do. It's been a pleasure, colors are vivid and the semi glossy glass really makes a difference.
I'm coming from a Dell U2410M with AG coating, so it's like night and day. Diablo looks absolutely stunning on this monitor and I'm finding myself more immersed now with the bigger screen. Way more fun to play the game that way. The Dell's could probably look as good with a glossy panel, but the AG coating just ruins it for me now. Prior to seeing this monitor with the glossy display, I thought the Dell looked just fine, but after using this monitor, I'm never going back to AG again, unless of course it's for work, then you don't need a glossy screen when all you do is look at spreadsheets and numbers. But for games and media, go glossy - it's like going black, you know what they say. Not sure if it has to do soley on the glossy glass, but colors seem richer on the Crossover than the Dell. I really thought my Dell looked good, but the higher resolution in combination with the S-IPS panel on the Crossover just puts it to shame. ALL my games look way way better!
The white metal back and glossy front look good together. This thing looks decent, it's not an Apple or Samsung, but it's not tacky either, and as far as funtionality goes, it's simiar to the adjustable Dell's. Base is solid, stand is good. Every bit as good as the base and stands on the two Dell's I've owned. The CrossOver logo is complete cheese, but overall this monitor matches my Razer Ultimate BW and Razer Naga perfectly.
As far as the panel on this monitor itself goes, I'm either:
1. Very lucky
2. Color blind or lack any attention to detail at all
3. Thinking the worries about dead/stuck pixels, BLB, color uniformity, etc. only happens on rare occurances
I've not located a single stuck or dead pixel yet. There is some BLB on the bottom right corner where the Power Button is, but every other edge is fine. The whites look the same top to bottom and left to right. Black looks black. Brick is warm to touch after five hours and monitor is cool, producing a little heat.
Two inputs in the back. One for Power, one for Dual DVI, that's it.
Three OSD Buttons, but located on the back of monitor not the front. Brightness Up, Down and Power.
Mouse response time on this just as quick as on my Dell U2410M.
Here's some pictures. Sorry for the crappy camera phone pictures, but as I've said, I'm no professional, not even a novice!
Here's a picture of the packaging:
Here's what packaging looks like inside the box:
Powerbrick and DVI Cable:
Monitor next to Dell:
Backside of Crossover:
PLEASE NOTE THESE SCREENSHOTS DO NOT DO THE SCREEN JUSTICE!!!
Edit: in the following pictures, the monitor is sitting in the exact same spot in the same room in all the pictures. They were taken within minutes of each other. I'm not sure why the walls look a different color in each picture though....
EDIT: Now using Apple Cinema Display 24' LED Color Profile from TFT and it's perfect!
Here is my informal review of the entire process from ordering thru delivery and setup. Please note that I am not a graphics professional nor am I trained to review LED monitors. All I do is play games (D3, Civ5, WoW, SC2, L4D2), upload and view pictures, watch streaming videos over the net, listen to music, and read articles and post on various websites.
That said, here are some things to you should note:
Ordered thru Ebay from AccessoriesWhole for BIN price of $399.98 US Shipped, no tax/customs.
Did NOT purchase Pixel Perfect version
Paid via Paypal Bill Me Later
Ordered on Wed Jun 27th around 9pm PST
Shipped on Thur Jun 28th with FedEx tracking# at around 6am PST
Arrived on Monday Jul 2nd at around 2pm PST
Took less than a week to get here and really just two business days if you don't include the weekend.
Arrived with bubblewrap around the (I presume) retail box of the monitor. Monitor was packaged sufficiently and there was no damage to the monitor or the stand when I opened to assess the monitor. DVI Cable and PowerBrick both wrapped up in bubble wrap and put behind the monitor.
Box had clearly been open, however everything was sealed, I believe the seller pulled it out to make one last QC before shipping out. It's probably in their best interest, since they will pay for shipping back if monitor is defective within 30 days.
Out of the box the monitor looked fine, however when I turned down the brightness I noticed a slight blue tint. I then downloaded the color profile from TFT for this monitor, adjusted some settings in nVidia CP and now it's near perfect. Didn't notice the blue tint on normal Brightness level though. I've used the monitor for about five hours now going through everything that I would normally do. It's been a pleasure, colors are vivid and the semi glossy glass really makes a difference.
I'm coming from a Dell U2410M with AG coating, so it's like night and day. Diablo looks absolutely stunning on this monitor and I'm finding myself more immersed now with the bigger screen. Way more fun to play the game that way. The Dell's could probably look as good with a glossy panel, but the AG coating just ruins it for me now. Prior to seeing this monitor with the glossy display, I thought the Dell looked just fine, but after using this monitor, I'm never going back to AG again, unless of course it's for work, then you don't need a glossy screen when all you do is look at spreadsheets and numbers. But for games and media, go glossy - it's like going black, you know what they say. Not sure if it has to do soley on the glossy glass, but colors seem richer on the Crossover than the Dell. I really thought my Dell looked good, but the higher resolution in combination with the S-IPS panel on the Crossover just puts it to shame. ALL my games look way way better!
The white metal back and glossy front look good together. This thing looks decent, it's not an Apple or Samsung, but it's not tacky either, and as far as funtionality goes, it's simiar to the adjustable Dell's. Base is solid, stand is good. Every bit as good as the base and stands on the two Dell's I've owned. The CrossOver logo is complete cheese, but overall this monitor matches my Razer Ultimate BW and Razer Naga perfectly.
As far as the panel on this monitor itself goes, I'm either:
1. Very lucky
2. Color blind or lack any attention to detail at all
3. Thinking the worries about dead/stuck pixels, BLB, color uniformity, etc. only happens on rare occurances
I've not located a single stuck or dead pixel yet. There is some BLB on the bottom right corner where the Power Button is, but every other edge is fine. The whites look the same top to bottom and left to right. Black looks black. Brick is warm to touch after five hours and monitor is cool, producing a little heat.
Two inputs in the back. One for Power, one for Dual DVI, that's it.
Three OSD Buttons, but located on the back of monitor not the front. Brightness Up, Down and Power.
Mouse response time on this just as quick as on my Dell U2410M.
Here's some pictures. Sorry for the crappy camera phone pictures, but as I've said, I'm no professional, not even a novice!
Here's a picture of the packaging:
Here's what packaging looks like inside the box:
Powerbrick and DVI Cable:
Monitor next to Dell:
Backside of Crossover:
PLEASE NOTE THESE SCREENSHOTS DO NOT DO THE SCREEN JUSTICE!!!
Edit: in the following pictures, the monitor is sitting in the exact same spot in the same room in all the pictures. They were taken within minutes of each other. I'm not sure why the walls look a different color in each picture though....
EDIT: Now using Apple Cinema Display 24' LED Color Profile from TFT and it's perfect!
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can you better explain this? What is the scenario that would produce what you are talking about in the part that I underlined?
Gabe3 asked earlier if he could run one of these monitors at 1080p since he didn't think his setup would max out BF3 at 1440p. The response was yes, he could since his GPU will scale it for him (there is a button in the Nvidia Control Panel "use GPU scaling" or similar, AMD has the same as well).
This would be achieved by setting the in-game resolution to 1920x1080. The GPU will render the image at 1920x1080, then upscale on the fly to 2560x1440 before outputting to the monitor. This is similar to what your computer does when watching 720p youtube videos on a 1080p screen, etc. However, there is some cost to the upscaling (minor, but it is there), as well as some image quality loss (3:4 upscaling is obviously not perfect). Note that this must all be done on the GPU since these monitors cannot scale themselves (Assuming we are not talking the more expensive multi-input versions)
So my point was, after image quality loss and cost of upscaling, Gabe3 would probably have a better image at similar Framerates if he chose to not upscale and instead turn down AA or some other graphical settings while keeping the game at native 1440p resolution.
This would be achieved by setting the in-game resolution to 1920x1080. The GPU will render the image at 1920x1080, then upscale on the fly to 2560x1440 before outputting to the monitor. This is similar to what your computer does when watching 720p youtube videos on a 1080p screen, etc. However, there is some cost to the upscaling (minor, but it is there), as well as some image quality loss (3:4 upscaling is obviously not perfect). Note that this must all be done on the GPU since these monitors cannot scale themselves (Assuming we are not talking the more expensive multi-input versions)
So my point was, after image quality loss and cost of upscaling, Gabe3 would probably have a better image at similar Framerates if he chose to not upscale and instead turn down AA or some other graphical settings while keeping the game at native 1440p resolution.
Yeah, seriously, use native resolution whenever possible. I don't like how any of my games look when scaled.
thanks bud, great explanation, I understand it now. I'm also a little concerned about this. I am using a 6870, so I'm not going to be able to push some games at a high/ultra quality at this resolution. From what you say, it will probably look better if I keep the resolution native and just reduce the in-game graphics quality
Just pulled the trigger on
CROSSOVER 2720MDP GOLD LED​ PIVOT Perfect Pixel
Funny thing is that the seller (accessorieswhole) says that this particular batch has A+ rated panels from LG. I know that this runs contrary to the wisdom of buying these monitors from Ebay.
The seller has 99.9% positive feedback and I'm hoping that I do get a unit with an A+ panel. It may be impossible to tell. I am paying a premium for it $649 for a unit that is multi input (including optical out) , has a scaler and pivots to portrait mode which were high priority items for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11089270322...:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_18663wt_1054
When I get mine I'll post some impressions. I don't have calibration/testing hardware so it will be compared to my Asus PA266Q.
CROSSOVER 2720MDP GOLD LED​ PIVOT Perfect Pixel
Funny thing is that the seller (accessorieswhole) says that this particular batch has A+ rated panels from LG. I know that this runs contrary to the wisdom of buying these monitors from Ebay.
The seller has 99.9% positive feedback and I'm hoping that I do get a unit with an A+ panel. It may be impossible to tell. I am paying a premium for it $649 for a unit that is multi input (including optical out) , has a scaler and pivots to portrait mode which were high priority items for me.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11089270322...:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_18663wt_1054
When I get mine I'll post some impressions. I don't have calibration/testing hardware so it will be compared to my Asus PA266Q.
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The scaler introduces input lag... it's not that bad, but for many it will be noticable.
I just ordered from this seller and I am inclined to believe it, since I haven't found a single flaw (other than the blue tint) on the panel itself.
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Bought the Crossover 2720 MDP from bigclothcraft and I didn't notice any major flaws with it at first but after a while I noticed a clump of what looks like stuck pixels (shows blue on black screens - can see them on the no signal test screen). They're top right center and it looks to be at least a clump of 30-50 pixels I'd guess, or something actually wrong with the panel.
It shows up as a blue blob on black only. Can't see it on white or solid primary color screens.
I tried giving it a light massage but it didn't seem to help anything and I don't want to make it worse. It's not a huge deal but it is definitely annoying. Especially considering bigclothcraft said they took an extra day to look for this sort of thing. I'm still within my 30 days so do you guys think that using the ebay buyer protection if I don't get some kind of resolution from him soon?
I don't see myself sending this thing back to korea, considering the shipping cost. The problem I'm seeing is certainly more severe than 1-5 stuck/dead pixels. If my description of what I'm seeing isn't clear I can snag a picture tonight and post.
It shows up as a blue blob on black only. Can't see it on white or solid primary color screens.
I tried giving it a light massage but it didn't seem to help anything and I don't want to make it worse. It's not a huge deal but it is definitely annoying. Especially considering bigclothcraft said they took an extra day to look for this sort of thing. I'm still within my 30 days so do you guys think that using the ebay buyer protection if I don't get some kind of resolution from him soon?
I don't see myself sending this thing back to korea, considering the shipping cost. The problem I'm seeing is certainly more severe than 1-5 stuck/dead pixels. If my description of what I'm seeing isn't clear I can snag a picture tonight and post.
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Take a picture of it and send it to the seller. Some have been willing to pay shipping costs if you have severe issues, though I'm not sure about bigclothcraft specifically.
Was yours advertised as an A+ panel ? If so I should think that a blue tint would be unacceptable.
No I do not believe any of the Korean panels are A+ panels. They're slighly lower grade, like A or A-
That's what I thought until I saw accesorieswhole's listing
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-5...:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_18663wt_1054
He tries his best to explicitly say that these are indeed a+ panels.
CrossOver authorize 100% perfect pixel A+ graded monitors only receive its perfect pixel label.
CrossOver guaranteed perfect pixel monitors are exclusively offered by AccessoriesWhole.
Solely limited quantity of A+ graded perfect pixel monitors from the manufacturing process, not judged by seller/dealers inspection.
I had not seen this before so that's why I bought. I hope he's not full of BS.
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None of the monitors (aside from that $650 Crossover, which is getting up to the same price as similar American monitors) are advertised as having A+ panels. Some people just have different opinions of what an "A+" panel should be. A popular opinion seems to be that A+ panels have less chance of dead pixels, but after reading peoples' posts, that doesn't really seem to be the case. I'd say the difference between A+/A- has more to do with color uniformity across the panel (hence a chance of getting blue tints, yellow tints, etc with these monitors).
Again, that's one of the $650 ones. HP's own 27" IPS is the same price, so for that price I would definitely expect an A+ panel. The cheaper ones, however, are not A+ panels.
I seem to have an issue where if I turn my monitor off, when I turn it back on the monitor has a blank screen (led is solid green), I have a dual monitor setup and the other monitor will display fine. if I change to duplicate displays rather than extend desktops, it kicks the yamakasi back into life, and then I can change back to extend desktop and set the yamakasi as primary screen. Have tried reinstalling the drivers, didn't make any change. Odd thing is also if I reboot the computer, I can't see the bios screen on the yamakasi while it is in a bad state, but if I have previously corrected it via the method mentioned above, I will see the bios screen, so it is beyond a graphic drivers issue. Bit of a pain in the ass, using an ati hd6450, thinking of trying an nvidia card to see if that makes any difference.
Here's the 'blue dot' problem I mentioned earlier. Top left of the image. Sorry for terrible cell phone pictures, but it's hard to take a good picture of a black screen. Monitor is a Crossover 2720 MDP.
Any idea what caused those blue dots? I don't see them in anything but dark colors so it makes me think it's a problem with pixels displaying dark colors only. I can't see the dots at all on white.
Here's the whole album: http://imgur.com/a/XgLNb
Any idea what caused those blue dots? I don't see them in anything but dark colors so it makes me think it's a problem with pixels displaying dark colors only. I can't see the dots at all on white.
Here's the whole album: http://imgur.com/a/XgLNb
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Received my Crossover from bigclothcraft today. Ordered 6/24, received 7/2
Im super impressed with the communications from bigclothcraft. Arrived very well packaged, fired up nicely. LOVE it!
Got it for $359 before the slight bump to current pricing of $379
NO dead pixels thus far, no issues period. Replaced a very aged and beat Westy 37" wow.. what a difference!!!
So grateful to have learned about these rocking deals from [H]... would have loved a U3011.. but only 3" less for a savings of $800.. just cant beat the ROI on these Korean deals! These truly are amazing!
Im super impressed with the communications from bigclothcraft. Arrived very well packaged, fired up nicely. LOVE it!
Got it for $359 before the slight bump to current pricing of $379
NO dead pixels thus far, no issues period. Replaced a very aged and beat Westy 37" wow.. what a difference!!!
So grateful to have learned about these rocking deals from [H]... would have loved a U3011.. but only 3" less for a savings of $800.. just cant beat the ROI on these Korean deals! These truly are amazing!
Here's the 'blue dot' problem I mentioned earlier. Top left of the image. Sorry for terrible cell phone pictures, but it's hard to take a good picture of a black screen. Monitor is a Crossover 2720 MDP.
Any idea what caused those blue dots? I don't see them in anything but dark colors so it makes me think it's a problem with pixels displaying dark colors only. I can't see the dots at all on white.
Here's the whole album: http://imgur.com/a/XgLNb
I'm looking at hour cellphone pic with my cell phone and those don't look like stuck pixels to me. Looks like a blob of green hazy shit to me.
which crossover did you get?
lol, it's top and a bit left of center. 3 blue blobs.
Yah, that would annoy me, you really should try and return to seller for a new one.
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27" New Crossover 27Q LED 2560x1440 WQHD Quad HD Monitor #140743009298
ebay link
http://www.ebay.com/itm/27-New-Cros..._Monitors&hash=item20c4efe412#ht_18558wt_1163
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I just pulled the trigger on a QH270-Lite for $305 from bigclothcraft. Auto-rejected a $300 offer, but took $305.
I don't really care much about the build quality or stand, I'm going to replace the stand. It seems like the displays are all the same, so I just went as cheap as possible. I think I read about 100 pages of this thread before pulling the trigger, and it seems as though my chances of a dead pixel are the same across the different brands since the display is the same, and pixel perfect still makes no guarantee. So whatever, if my chances are the same and I don't care about quality, I'm going cheap as possible.
I don't really care much about the build quality or stand, I'm going to replace the stand. It seems like the displays are all the same, so I just went as cheap as possible. I think I read about 100 pages of this thread before pulling the trigger, and it seems as though my chances of a dead pixel are the same across the different brands since the display is the same, and pixel perfect still makes no guarantee. So whatever, if my chances are the same and I don't care about quality, I'm going cheap as possible.
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