Achieva Shimian QH270| $400 IPS 2560x1440 Korean Monitor

wow, this is an insanely good deal, absolutely insane, time for me to ditch this tiny low res 23" and take a chance on this korean make.


About the warrantys though, does anyone have a warranty that covers these? There is an option for a warranty on ebay, is that meaningless or does it actually work?
 
BB Gun said:
Without a scaler, less resolution displays at 1:1 pixel mapping in the center of the monitor instead of stretching out to fill the monitor. Thats one of the differences between the Dells and the HPs. That wouldn't be much fun with a .2333 mm pixel pitch. At least, that's how I understand it when something has no scaler. BB
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suiken_2mieu said:
Wrong, you still need a scaler for 1:1 mapping. When there's no scaler present, the PC can only send native resolutions to the monitor. This means 2560x1440 and 1280x720.
The GPU will do all the necessary scaling when the monitor does not have a scaler.
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The HP ZR2740W has no scalar, so maybe someone has experience with how the no scalar functions.
Someone please confirm what will happen exactly. I am thinking of getting something like a 7850 to drive the panel that has no scalar.

If I game at eg. 1024x768, what will be displayed?
1) 1024x768 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
2) 1024x768 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440

If it is not possible to play at 1024x768 without a scalar, the game must select 1280x720, what will be displayed?
A) 1280x720 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
B) 1280x720 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440
 
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WickedWeasel said:
The HP ZR2740W has no scalar, so maybe someone has experience with how the no scalar functions.
Someone please confirm what will happen exactly. I am thinking of getting something like a 7850 to drive the panel that has no scalar.

If I game at eg. 1024x768, what will be displayed?
1) 1024x768 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
2) 1024x768 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440

If it is not possible to play at 1024x768 without a scalar, the game must select 1280x720, what will be displayed?
A) 1280x720 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
B) 1280x720 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440
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I owning several displays without scalers know for a fact, that you can do 1 of 3 things (atleast on the ATI side):
1. Run it stretched to the full resolution
2. Run it with bars all around it.
3. Run it at it's aspect ratio but still scaled up in size.
 
WickedWeasel said:
The HP ZR2740W has no scalar, so maybe someone has experience with how the no scalar functions.
Someone please confirm what will happen exactly. I am thinking of getting something like a 7850 to drive the panel that has no scalar.

If I game at eg. 1024x768, what will be displayed?
1) 1024x768 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
2) 1024x768 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440

If it is not possible to play at 1024x768 without a scalar, the game must select 1280x720, what will be displayed?
A) 1280x720 mapping at the center of the screen with black bars on all sides
OR
B) 1280x720 will be stretched to fill the entire screen at 2560x1440
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It depends on what you have certain settings in your control panel set to.

If you have a game set at 1024x768 and have scaling turned off in the Nvidia control panel, this should result in black bars all around the screen with the 1024x768 in the center.

If you have a game set to 1024x768 and have scaling set to fullscreen in the Nvidia control panel, it should be stretched to fill the entire the screen.

If you have a game set to 1024x768 and have the scaling set to aspect ratio in the Nvidia control panel, it should stretch the image to fill the screen without distorting the aspect ratio.

You should also be able to set the Nvidia control panel to either do the scaling on the GPU or the display. There should also be an option to always override the resolution for games/movies so that you can run the native resolution of 2560x1440 on the desktop and applications and then games/videos will instantly default to the resolution you set in the scaling options.
 
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Did anyone ship one into Canada yet? I would like to know if customs will add a charge.
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I'll let you know. I'm getting one delivered to my office. I'm on training this week but if it comes there it's on my way home.

I've seen the ACD 27" enough to "think" I know what it should look like. Mostly I just want a 27" with less detectable lag than the Samsung S27A850D or U2711, and for $300.00+ less than a ZR2740W, why not?
 
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Racer_J said:
No idea on the plane ticket price. The monitor is substantially cheaper there though. Sellers over on Danawa are selling the Catleaps and the Shimians for around $240 USD for the base models. I seriously doubt that shipping is included but, even if it wasn't there is no way Shipping is going to drive the cost up to $400+

I'm not endorsing Dawana and you would need someone that can speak Korean to "broker" the deal but those guys are obviously making a profit at $240 so yes, the monitor would be substanially cheaper if purchased in person.
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These monitors retail for around that price. Plane ticket would be ~1k or so, depending.

Did some research into arcane US import duties and it looks like it's either free or at most 5%. Rather cryptic and wasn't worth it to figure out for something that would top out at $20 if applicable.
 
Could anybody with the monitor please comment on the noise it makes (if any)?

Looking for high pitched squeals or buzzing/hissing at certain brightness settings. Hoping it's dead quiet because of the external power brick and the LED backlighting.

Fingers crossed!! As a reference to how picky I am, my 3007WFP has a crazy hiss noise at max bright, and then turns into a buzz a few clicks down. 2007FP's have a high pitched noise that is annoying depending on the angle you are seated at relative to the monitor... and the 2209WA gets louder when pushed to 75Hz. :(
 
There's no noise. The PQ is just like the 27" Mac computer I have at work. However, extreme off angle viewing looks pretty bad, unlike the Mac. No idea why you'd be doing that in the first place, but there it is.
 
Can any one tell me if these shipped UPS, FEDEX or USPS? I asked the seller but didn't get a clear answer.
 
Zoomer said:
These monitors retail for around that price. Plane ticket would be ~1k or so, depending.

Did some research into arcane US import duties and it looks like it's either free or at most 5%. Rather cryptic and wasn't worth it to figure out for something that would top out at $20 if applicable.
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Airfare is ridiculous these days. That's cheaper than flying there on your own though.
 
Moonjock said:
Can any one tell me if these shipped UPS, FEDEX or USPS? I asked the seller but didn't get a clear answer.
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I believe they ship EMS, which is in the end a combination between a Korean carrier in to the US, then USPS to your door. I may be wrong here.
 
Depends on who you are purchasing from in specific. The person I purchased from used Fedex, but dream-seller uses EMS which would change hands to Canada Post/USPS respectively, based on country.
 
Alright, I managed to catch the Fedex guy just as he was leaving my street so I got my monitor today.

Monitor - Achieva Shimian IPSB (Tempered Glass)

INFO:

Seller - dcsamsungmall
Shipping used - Fedex International Economy
DUTY - $21 (Delivered to Canada)

NO BUBBLEWRAP SURROUNDING BOX.

The monitor arrived with cracks on both the left and right on the top corners of the housing. The panel itself is fine. There is also remnants of what appears to be styrofoam stuck between the glass and housing.

Despite this, the monitor has arrived FUNCTIONAL. I am typing from it as we speak. I'll have pictures posted in a few.

There IS dust behind the panel, and one particular section is very aggravating.

Pictures below. I apologise for them being AWFUL, as they were taken with a Nexus One, but it'll give you the general idea.

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man that's a shame Vittra. looks like it took a beating during shipment. i couldn't live with any of the defects you unfortunately got. cracked/mutilated bezel, and the styrofoam and dust behind the glass would be annoying as all hell.
 
Yeah, I don't know whether the properties of tempered glass make it more fragile than the usual material, but if so, the packaging is inadequate. While the internal packaging is adequate for an LCD (similar to normal OEM packaging that holds the unit in place so pressure isn't placed on the display itself), there's no other cushioning like bubble wrap for the overall casing.
 
If it was just the dust, I'd probably be able to live with it, maybe even correct it.. but as it stands. Ugh.

I've contacted the seller to see what he says. For now, stick with Dreamseller if you buy the monitor (bubble wrapped box while shipped), and forget tempered glass.
 
I ordered the one from dream-seller without the tempered glass today. /sigh

Looking forward to getting it. Seeing the dust behind the tempered glass on the oc.net post made me get the one without glass.

Pumped.. I should have it next week sometime.
 
anyone happen to find a smaller version of this? I know they have a 30inch one, which aesthetically looks much nicer (but goes for like $1000). But I'm thinking I won't like this resolution of the 27 inch, so maybe there's a 24inch version or something?
 
There are plenty of fairly reasonably priced 1920x1080 24" LCDs., IPS and otherwise. It's once you go past that it's impressive. No reason to import a 24" display.

Also, I decide to go through buying from Dreamseller, it shipped today, will hopefully get here Friday, Monday at the latest.
 
silent-circuit said:
There are plenty of fairly reasonably priced 1920x1080 24" LCDs., IPS and otherwise. It's once you go past that it's impressive. No reason to import a 24" display.

Also, I decide to go through buying from Dreamseller, it shipped today, will hopefully get here Friday, Monday at the latest.
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Yup the 27" is the sweet spot on these. The 30" are too much to bother with just like the 24"'s.

Just figured out my taxes and I'll be getting back more than I figured since I was out of work most of the year, and I'm sorely tempted to grab one of the $400 ones.

Only thing that stops me is my video cards not being the best for that resolution and I can't afford new ones along with a monitor.
 
If I were to bring a bunch of these into the United States, which model would you guys be interested in the most? If I brought them in most of the issues (shipping damage, etc) would be resolved and I could put in my own QC.

C
 
csshih said:
If I were to bring a bunch of these into the United States, which model would you guys be interested in the most? If I brought them in most of the issues (shipping damage, etc) would be resolved and I could put in my own QC.

C
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My *guess* would be, in no particular order:

1) The least expensive 27" 2560x1440.

2) The least expensive 27" that has an OSD menu for calibration.

3) The least expensive non-glossy 27". Many people do not like reflections, but at the same time prefer a less aggressive AG coating.

4) All of the above for any 30" 2560 x 1600 models as well.

5) 24", 25", 26" ... 16:10 1920x1200 IPS panels are becoming rare here as well. There would be much interest in these if the prices were right, and if it didn't have an aggressive AG coating.


That would be very generous of you. Unfortunately i won't be buying one any time soon due to emergency expenses that have come up recently :(. But a few months from now i would definitely purchase one if available.
 
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Limahl said:
Just look at the seller store. He has 24" screens but they are all around $400.
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saw that, but i dont think it has the same type panel as the QH270. guess i was looking for a QH240 or something, but i dont think it exists :p


silent-circuit said:
There are plenty of fairly reasonably priced 1920x1080 24" LCDs., IPS and otherwise. It's once you go past that it's impressive. No reason to import a 24" display.
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but as far as I know they all have crappy ag. I don't trust pls either, at least not this first generation. Too many qc issues with those too :(


Limahl said:
Only thing that stops me is my video cards not being the best for that resolution and I can't afford new ones along with a monitor.
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same here. unfortunately :(
 
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illli said:
anyone happen to find a smaller version of this? I know they have a 30inch one, which aesthetically looks much nicer (but goes for like $1000). But I'm thinking I won't like this resolution of the 27 inch, so maybe there's a 24inch version or something?
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There are 23" and 24" Catleaps and a 24" Shimian listed over on Danawa but, they are 1920x1280. You may want to try looking at the manufacturer's site (if they have one) but, I doubt you're going to see a higher resolution than that.
 
csshih said:
If I were to bring a bunch of these into the United States, which model would you guys be interested in the most? If I brought them in most of the issues (shipping damage, etc) would be resolved and I could put in my own QC.

C
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I would say a model with HDMI. That would also mean it comes with an OSD and a scalar.

If it helps here are the bulk prices from the OC.net thread:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/61830124/Spec. sheet for Shimian series.pdf

Also for the OC.net group buy that was cancelled, I believe they were quoted by Achieva for $350 for the cheapest model, with minimum quantity of 10 pcs. I'm guessing it'll be ~$50 premium for something with HDMI.
 
thank you for the link, I had a look at that one before.

what's wrong with the AR coatings? I was looking at picking up the QH270-IPSMS as it seems to have most things covered. (LED backlighting, good selection of inputs, and the buttons on the monitor actually work (OSD) - IMO the osd buttons not working makes the overall product feel cheap.).
I'm specifically looking at LED backlighting as it's less prone to failure. I don't want people contacting me a year later saying their invertor failed and they need replacements. I would try to offer some sort of warranty.
 
OSD apparently means scaler, which means input lag... which I have zero interest in. If I'm understanding correctly the model I bought only has brightness controls, and I /prefer/ this.
 
silent-circuit said:
OSD apparently means scaler, which means input lag... which I have zero interest in. If I'm understanding correctly the model I bought only has brightness controls, and I /prefer/ this.
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^ what silent said.

Also, I'd be most interested in the 30" models, in case someone actually wants to bring them stateside. 27" is great, too, but I'm not into buying second-biggest or second-best; it'd bug me and make me want to upgrade sooner or later...
 
csshih said:
what's wrong with the AR coatings?
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Apparently with some AR coatings and such a fine PPI level, it can make small text nearly impossible to read on the screen.

I've never had the chance to look and see for myself how true, but enough people were drooling over these initially because they had no AR coating that I can believe it's a real issue.
 
Wage said:
^ what silent said.

Also, I'd be most interested in the 30" models, in case someone actually wants to bring them stateside. 27" is great, too, but I'm not into buying second-biggest or second-best; it'd bug me and make me want to upgrade sooner or later...
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Might as well just buy a 30" here, the cost is about the same and you'd have an easier time with warranty coverage if needed.
 
Does the shimian qh270 have any significant advantages over the catleap besides the vesa mount? Im surprised at how many of you are choosing a shimian over a catleap. Comparing the two models the catleap looks better designed.

I bought a catleap from dreamseller and will post pictures once received.
 
Just got one of two I ordered in today. Went with the shimian for the tempered glass and vesa. Shipping was stupid fast, I ordered the 26th and got it the 29th. Still waiting on my second one to show up.

Won't have time to test it out till next week though.
 
Limahl said:
Might as well just buy a 30" here, the cost is about the same and you'd have an easier time with warranty coverage if needed.
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I've been looking, Limahl, but two things are hampering that:

1) I'm no lowballer at all, but the most recent monitors for sale have been pieces of shit that people call "like new" and want near MSRP for. Only a dead pixel or two my ass...

2) Fried the mobo on my S775 so I'm having to upgrade to x79 faster than I had hoped -_-

Just holding my money between my legs and waiting for a good sale on either a x79 (SB-e) board and CPU or a great S-IPS 30", whichever comes first.
 
Limahl said:
Apparently with some AR coatings and such a fine PPI level, it can make small text nearly impossible to read on the screen.

I've never had the chance to look and see for myself how true, but enough people were drooling over these initially because they had no AR coating that I can believe it's a real issue.
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good to know. I'm personally using dell 23" IPS w/ AR coatings and it hasn't been a problem, but I'm sure with 2560 it might. looking at the costs of a 30" IPS, you'd only be saving a few hundred (1-200, I think). it really is better to buy those stateside.

I'll try to keep all this information in consideration. I'm already in contact with the company.

C
 
Just ordered the shimian with the tempered glass, with luck it will be here by March 6th, just in time for mass effect 3.


Have 2 monitors I am using now, though one is collecting dust because I almost never use the dual display. I should be able to get a couple hundred for the two of those, one is an lg 23" monitor, the other the NEC 20WMGX2 AS-IPS, still looks great but so small.

Always wanted one of those 27" cinema display sized screens with the ultra high res and beautiful display, but did not want to spend 800 plus dollars to get one, if not a thousand plus. Could not justify that, but 400? sold. Better yet, I prefer the glossy to the matte coatings on that the hp uses. Shame they decided to go with that, but then some people prefer that.

I'll post pics and maybe some video comparisons with my three monitors when I get it before I sell the other 2 (assuming nothing is wrong with the one being shipped).
 
csshih said:
thank you for the link, I had a look at that one before.

what's wrong with the AR coatings? I was looking at picking up the QH270-IPSMS as it seems to have most things covered. (LED backlighting, good selection of inputs, and the buttons on the monitor actually work (OSD) - IMO the osd buttons not working makes the overall product feel cheap.).
I'm specifically looking at LED backlighting as it's less prone to failure. I don't want people contacting me a year later saying their invertor failed and they need replacements. I would try to offer some sort of warranty.
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I think the QH270-IPSM would be the model to go for if you're going for HDMI, since I'm not sure how useful that speaker for the IPSMS is for most people, and it is an extra option. If you're going for broke on options IPSMDP has display port (plus component and all that jazz), which is interesting, but I'm not sure how much extra that's going to add.

All the models in the QH270 line uses the LG LM270WQ1 panel, so they are all LED backlit. The LM270WQ2 is the one in the U2711 and that one is CCFL backlit.

Depending on how many people want what, maybe you would be able to bring some IPSB and some IPSM, depending on the minimum quantity that your supplier wants.
 
cingkrab said:
If you're going for broke on options IPSMDP has display port (plus component and all that jazz), which is interesting, but I'm not sure how much extra that's going to add.
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It will add a considerable amount of money to the cost. IIRC, the sellers over on Dawana are charging around 650,000 to 750,000 KRW (Won) for the IPSMD. That would be around $581 to $670 USD and CAD (since USD and CAD are pretty much 1:1 these days). Given that the base models sell for $240 on Dawana and $400+ on ebay, I doubt the IPSMD would be "affordable". Then again, compared to the current 27" displays at this resolution from North American vendors/manufacturers, it would still be in their price range and offer far more inputs. At the same time though, it might be cheaper to buy something here under warranty and use a video switch box than to take a "risk" on the IPSMD.
 
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